EP3580748B1 - Élément de recouvrement permettant d'améliorer le son d'instruments à cordes - Google Patents
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- the present invention is concerned with changing the sound of a string instrument by means of an attachment which is attached to the bow of the string instrument and serves to improve the sound result of string instruments.
- string instruments are used to strike the strings with a bowed bow.
- the stick-slip effect is used here, through which there is a rapid change in static friction and movement between the bow hair and the string, which stimulates the string to vibrate.
- the sheet covering known as the cover, is typically made of horsehair, which is rubbed with rosin to increase the static friction.
- the string vibration is transmitted to the resonance body of the string instrument via a bridge, which creates an audible tone.
- the sound of the instrument is accordingly influenced not only by the resonance body but also by the vibration behavior of the string, e.g. by the excited vibration spectrum of the string and the damping or decay behavior.
- the string interacts with the bowed instrument or the bow at three points: on the bridge of the instrument, between the string and the reference, and at the point at which the string is pressed onto the fingerboard.
- the sound of an instrument is also influenced by the physical fitness and mobility of the player, as these lead to audible changes when playing.
- the aim of the present invention is to influence the vibration behavior to change the sound, in particular to improve the sound, of the string instrument to reach. Since the sound of the instrument when playing is negatively influenced by a cramped hand position and thus too rigid a coupling between hand and bow ("scratching" on the line), the aim is to provide means that counteract this.
- the solution is to influence the interaction between the string and the reference by adding an attachment made of an elastic material in order to influence the vibration behavior of the strings and thus change the sound characteristics of the string instrument.
- an attachment made of an elastic material in order to influence the vibration behavior of the strings and thus change the sound characteristics of the string instrument.
- this supports a loose hand position and thus leads to a sound improvement.
- FIG. 1 shows an unfolded (flattened) view of the structural elements of the in Fig. 2 Arch attachment shown in a 3D view.
- Fig. 2 is further a handle end of a bow 21 is shown on which the bow attachment 1 is to be placed.
- the bow is shown without bow wrapping and without thumb leather, the arrangement of which is known to those skilled in the art.
- a central element of the arch attachment 1 made of an elastic material forms the carrier element 2, which is manufactured and which has an elongated shape, the shape being adapted so that the carrier element 2 at the handle end of a bow 21 can rest on a rod 22 of the bow .
- the carrier element 2 is sketched flat, but it can have a more general shape.
- the carrier element will preferably be rounded in such a way that it is adapted to a round shape of the arched rod 22 and can rest on it in a form-fitting manner, smaller deviations being compensated for by the elasticity of the material.
- the carrier element thus has approximately the shape of a circular arc or half of a circular cylinder jacket, which was cut parallel to the longitudinal direction of the cylinder, ie the circular arc is not to be understood as a line here, but circular arc with a certain thickness in the radial direction.
- Fig. 4 shows a view in the longitudinal direction of an exemplary arch attachment.
- the width of the support element is then to be understood as the extension perpendicular to the longitudinal direction and perpendicular to the imaginary line in relation to the arc rod, i.e. in the case of a semicircular arc approximately the diameter and not the circumference of the circular arc.
- the adaptation of the shape of the support element primarily relates to an adaptation to a round circumference of the arch rod, but can also relate to an adjustment to a longitudinal curvature of the arch rod, the latter mostly not being necessary due to the elasticity of the material.
- the carrier element has a correspondingly smaller thickness. This recess is preferably located in the vicinity of the second fastening element.
- a first gripping surface 10 is arranged on a longitudinal side of the carrier element 2, which is also made of the elastic material and has a first section 12 and a second section 14.
- the first section 12 is adapted in such a way that it is suitable for at least partially resting against one side of a bow frog 26. With the typical bow hand position, the ends of the middle and ring fingers are placed here.
- a stabilizing surface 6 and a second gripping surface 8 are arranged on the other longitudinal side of the carrier element 2.
- the stabilizing surface 6 is adapted in such a way that it can rest at least partially on the bow frog 26 on the side opposite the first section 12 of the first gripping surface 10.
- the second grip surface 8 adjoins the stabilization surface on the side facing away from an end of the carrier element to be attached to a rod end. Similar to the second section 14 of the first gripping surface, its extension is adapted to the arch 21 in such a way that it cannot come into contact with the cover 24. The thumb comes to rest on the second grip surface with the normal bow hand position.
- a gap preferably remains open between the stabilizing surface 6 and the second gripping surface 8 in order to enable the second gripping surface 8 to be bent inwardly around the bow bar 22.
- the carrier element 2 is made thicker than the stabilizing surface 6 and the first and second gripping surfaces 10, 8.
- the carrier element 2 is relatively stiff and dimensionally stable. This makes it possible on the longitudinal side of the carrier element 2, on which the stabilizing surface 6 and the second gripping surface 8 are also arranged, to further arrange a tab 4 adjacent to the second gripping surface 8, which extends outward from the top of the bow bar 22, ie the tab 4 extends approximately perpendicular to the plane which runs through the rod 22 and cover 24 of the arch 21 when the attachment attached to the bow.
- the index finger can be placed here, which leads to a change in the guidance of the bow arm and thus to a change in sound.
- the structural design of the arch attachment 1 is therefore as follows: the first grip surface 10 is parallel to the stabilization surface 6 and to the second grip surface 8, which are arranged in a common plane; the first grip surface 10 on the one hand and the stabilization surface 6 and the second grip surface 8 on the other hand are adapted to rest on opposite sides of the grip end of the bow 21 and are connected by the support element 2, which is adapted to rest on the top of the bow bar 22.
- the stabilizing surface 6, the second gripping surface 8 and the tab 4 are, as seen from the end of the bow attachment 1 to be arranged at the end of the bow, arranged one after the other on the same side of the carrier element 2, the tab 4 being approximately perpendicular to the stabilizing surface 6 or to the second gripping surface 8 extends.
- the thin elastic material of the second gripping surface 8 and the second section 14 of the first gripping surface 10 enable the second gripping surface 8 and the second section 14 to adapt to the shape of the bow bar 22 and to wrap around it due to the finger pressure of the player, so that an optimal holding of the bow 21 is achieved when playing.
- fastening elements 16, 18 are attached to the ends of the elongated carrier element 2 (in Figure 1 represented symbolically; their exact arrangement and size may vary).
- a first fastener 18 is adapted to be attached to the bow pole end on which the frog screw 28 is located.
- the first fastening element 18 is preferably designed such that it can be brought into engagement with the rod end, for example an elastic eyelet which can be slipped over the rod end.
- a second fastening element 16 is adapted to be fastened to the arch rod, wherein it is preferably designed such that it can be brought into engagement with the arch rod 22, for example a U-shaped elastic element which is slid over the rod 22 so that it comes to rest between the two legs of the U-shaped element.
- the elasticity of the eyelet or the U-shaped Elements a force that holds the fastening elements and thus the arch attachment in place.
- the fastening elements 16, 18 are mainly fastened to the carrier element 2.
- At least partial attachment to the ends of the first gripping surface 10 and the stabilizing surface 6 is also possible; this makes it possible, in particular, to stabilize the shape of the first grip surface and the stabilization surface at the edges.
- the first section 12 of the first gripping surface 10 is arranged adjacent to the first fastening element 18 and the second section 14 of the first gripping surface 10 is arranged adjacent to the second fastening element 16.
- the stabilizing surface 6 is arranged adjacent to the first fastening element 18
- the second gripping surface 8 is arranged adjacent to the stabilizing surface 6 in the direction of the second fastening element 16 and, if applicable, the tab 4 is arranged adjacent to the second fastening element 16.
- the outer surfaces, ie the surfaces that should face away from the arch, of the carrier element 2, the stabilizing surface 6 and the first 10 and second gripping surface 8 are provided with knobs (not shown in the figures).
- the entire outer surface (surface of the arch attachment facing away from the arch when it is placed on the arch) of the arch attachment is therefore provided with knobs.
- the knobs also increase the grip of the bow attachment, thus preventing the player's fingers from slipping, which in turn enables the bow to be held with less effort (more loosely).
- the knobs also lead to a massage effect or stimulation of the player's fingers, through which the fingers become more flexible and adapt better to the arch. This creates an optimal transfer - optimal in the sense of the individual player and his anatomical and physical requirements - of force, pressure and speed to the Bow guidance, which has an impact on the sound change and also facilitates longer, fatigue-free and painless playing.
- the arch attachment is made of a plastic or a plastic-like material, namely an elastomer, e.g. rubber.
- the carrier element 2, the tab 4, the stabilizing surface 6, the first gripping surface 10 and the second gripping surface 8 are preferably made of the same material, the arch attachment 1 being more preferably made in one piece.
- the fastening elements 16, 18 are also preferably made of an elastomer, a relatively rigid design being selected here in order to enable secure attachment to the arch 21.
- the material is expediently specified by its hardness, which should preferably be between Shore-A 40 and Shore-A 60.
- a hardness of the elastic material between Shore A 40 and Shore A 94 is possible.
- the dimensions of the bow attachment are selected to match the bow of the bowed instrument.
- “length” relates to a direction parallel to the longitudinal direction of the elongate carrier element 2, “width” to a direction perpendicular thereto and “thickness” to the thickness of the essentially flat material.
- Dimensions according to the invention for the carrier element 2 are a length of 8 cm to 20 cm, preferably 12 cm to 16 cm, a width of 0.5 cm to 2.0 cm, preferably 0.8 cm to 1.2 cm, and a thickness of 0.05 cm to 0.5 cm, preferably 0.1 cm to 0.3 cm.
- the carrier element 2 is preferably so long that the second fastening element 16, as seen from the end of the bow rod (at which the bow is gripped), is attached to the bow rod behind an arch wrapping in order to prevent the wrapping from being damaged.
- the thickness of the tab 4 corresponds approximately to the thickness of the carrier element 2 and has a length of 5 cm to 10 cm and a width of 0.5 cm to 2 cm.
- the stabilizing surface 6 and the first and second gripping surfaces 10, 8 are relatively thin and soft.
- the thickness of the material on these areas is 0.05 cm to 0.2 cm.
- the length of the first section 12 of the first gripping surface 10 is 4 cm to 8 cm, preferably 5 cm to 7 cm.
- the length of the second section 14 of the first gripping surface 10 is 4 cm to 12 cm, preferably 7 cm to 9 cm.
- the length of the stabilization surface 6 is 2 cm to 6 cm, preferably 3 cm to 5 cm.
- the length of the second gripping surface 8 is 2 cm to 5 cm, preferably 3 cm to 4 cm.
- the widths of the stabilizing surface 6 and the first section 12 of the first gripping surface 10 are in the range from 2 cm to 5 cm, preferably from 3 to 4 cm.
- the widths of the second grip surface 8 and the second section 14 of the first grip surface 10 are in the range from 1 cm to 5 cm, preferably from 2 to 3 cm.
- the knobs are distributed over the outer surface and have a diameter of 0.1 cm to 1.0 cm, preferably 0.3 cm to 0.7 cm, more preferably 0.5 cm, and a height of 0.1 cm to 1.0 cm, preferably from 0.3 cm to 0.7, more preferably 0.5 cm. These dimensions relate to the knob diameter at the base of the knob where the knob is attached to the respective surface.
- the knobs preferably initially extend essentially vertically away from the surface with a constant - or only slowly decreasing - diameter and then taper in an upper height region of the knob, which preferably takes up about a third of the total height.
- the diameter initially decreases from 0.5 cm to 0.3 cm at a height of 0.33 cm and then decreases to zero at a height of 0.5 cm ( equal to the total height). This last decrease preferably runs in such a way that a rounded shape - essentially a spherical segment - is formed.
- the distance between adjacent knobs is expediently specified as a multiple of the diameter of the knobs used.
- a distance between the centers of the knobs is preferred that is one to two times the knob diameter.
- Any arrangement is possible, for example a parallel or offset row, a square grid, a diamond arrangement, a hexagonal grid, or even a non-regular arrangement.
- the arch attachment 1 has to be adapted to the arch 21 (and its dimensions) in essential parts, a person skilled in the art will select the respective specific dimensions from the above ranges, in particular with the widths of the second grip surface 8 and the second section 14, that playability of the entire length of the cover 24 of the sheet 21 should be guaranteed, and accordingly this should not extend as far as the cover 24.
- the respective sheet size (1/1 sheet, 3/4 sheet, 1/2 sheet, .
- the length of the first grip surface 10 and / or the sum of the lengths of the stabilization surface 6, second grip surface 8 and tab 4 equal the length of the carrier element 2.
- the individual surfaces i.e. stabilization surface, first and second grip surface, first and second section of the first grip surface, of the arch attachment
- this has a shape other than that shown in the figures (rectangle, rounded) (Rectangle, rounded) can have.
- Any other desired shape is also possible; the person skilled in the art will select this accordingly together with the necessary dimensions.
- the dimensions given above then represent a mean or maximum dimension / extent of the respective component of the arch attachment.
- the second section (14) of the first gripping surface (10) tapers in the direction of the second fastening element (16). This is exemplified in Fig. 3 shown, otherwise the Fig. 1 corresponds to.
- Figure 5 which are similar to the Figure 4 is, represents a further embodiment of the Arch attachment in a longitudinal view.
- This embodiment largely corresponds to the embodiment described above; With the exception of the difference mentioned below, the above description is also valid here.
- a tab 40 is arranged adjacent to the second gripping surface 8 on the longitudinal side of the carrier element 2.
- the only difference to the tab 4 of the above embodiment is that the tab 40 of this embodiment, when placed on the arch, does not extend essentially perpendicular to the second grip surface 8, but rather forms an angle ⁇ with the second grip surface 8 that is between 110 ° and 150 °.
- the flap 40 thus extends further upwards from the bow, so that a configuration suitable for low strings, for example cello, is formed.
- the tab can overlap somewhat with the carrier element 2.
- the tab is then no longer arranged on a longitudinal side of the carrier element 2, but approximately in a center of the carrier element 2.
- This alternative arrangement is shown in FIG Figure 5 represented by a tab 42 drawn with dashed lines (the tab 40 drawn with solid lines is then correspondingly omitted).
- the tab 42 is located with an alternative arrangement between the second gripping surface 8 and the second fastening element 16.
- the angle ⁇ measured at the position where the (alternative) tab 42 is attached to the carrier element 2 (which is not shown again) is determined accordingly between a plane that runs in the tab 42 and a plane that runs parallel to the second gripping surface 8.
- the tab can be provided with knobs.
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- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) dans un matériau élastique pour un archet d'un instrument à cordes, sachant que l'élément de recouvrement d'archet est fabriqué dans un élastomère, comprenant :un élément de support allongé (2), qui est adapté pour reposer sur une extrémité de préhension de l'archet sur une baguette d'archet et qui comporte, vu dans la direction longitudinale, pour l'essentiel la forme d'un arc de cercle,un premier et un deuxième élément de fixation (16, 18), qui sont montés aux deux extrémités de l'élément de support allongé,sachant que le premier élément de fixation (18) est adapté pour être fixé à une extrémité de baguette d'archet et le deuxième élément de fixation (16) est adapté pour être fixé à la baguette d'archet,une première surface de préhension (10), qui est montée sur un premier côté longitudinal de l'élément de support,une surface de stabilisation (6) et une deuxième surface de préhension (8), qui sont montées sur un deuxième côté longitudinal de l'élément de support, opposé à la première surface de préhension,sachant qu'une première section (12) de la première surface de préhension et la surface de stabilisation (6) sont adaptées pour s'appliquer au moins pour partie aux côtés opposés d'une hausse d'archet, sachant que la première section (12) de la première surface de préhension et la surface de stabilisation (6) sont disposées proches du premier élément de fixation (18),sachant qu'une deuxième section (14) de la première surface de préhension et la deuxième surface de préhension (8) sont adaptées pour s'appliquer au moins pour partie sur les côtés opposés de la baguette d'archet et comportent respectivement une largeur perpendiculairement au grand côté de l'élément de support, qui sont adaptés pour être plus petits que l'écart entre un habillage d'archet et une face supérieure de la bague d'archet, sachant que la deuxième section (14) de la première surface de préhension est disposée proche du deuxième élément de fixation (16) et la deuxième surface de préhension (8) est disposée proche de la surface de stabilisation (6),et sachant que l'élément de support (2), la surface de stabilisation (6) et la première et la deuxième surface de préhension (8, 10) sont munis de picots,caractérisé en ce quel'élément de support (2) comporte une longueur de l'ordre de 8 cm - 20 cm, une largeur de l'ordre de 0,5 cm - 2,0 cm et une épaisseur de l'ordre de 0,05 cm - 0,5 cm et les épaisseurs de surface de stabilisation (6) et de la première et deuxième surface de préhension (8, 10) se situent dans une plage de 0,05 cm - 0,2 cm, sachant que l'épaisseur de l'élément de support (2) est plus grande que l'épaisseur de la surface de stabilisation (6) et de la première et deuxième surface de préhension (8, 10),etl'élément de support (2) comporte sur le deuxième côté longitudinal entre la deuxième surface de préhension (8) et le deuxième élément de fixation (16) une languette (4), qui est disposée proche du deuxième élément de fixation (16) et qui est agencée de telle manière qu'elle s'étend à l'état posé sur l'archet pour l'essentiel perpendiculairement à la deuxième surface de préhension (8) ou s'étend dans un angle (α) entre 110° et 150° vers la deuxième surface de préhension (8).
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon la revendication 1, sachant que l'élément de support (2) sur le côté qui est adapté pour s'appliquer sur l'archet, comporte une cavité ayant la forme d'un secteur avec une épaisseur réduite.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que les picots comportent un diamètre de 0,1 cm - 1,0 cm, de préférence 0,3 cm - 0,7 cm, de préférence encore de 0,5 cm, une hauteur de 0,1 cm - 1,0 cm, de préférence 0,3 cm - 0,7 cm, de préférence encore de 0,5 cm et comportent une distance, mesurée en tant que distance des centres des picots, de 1 à 2 fois le diamètre des picots.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que le matériau élastique de l'élément de recouvrement d'archet comporte une dureté Shore se situant entre A40 et A94, de préférence une dureté Shore entre A40 et A60.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que l'élément de recouvrement d'archet (1) est fabriqué en une seule pièce.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que le premier et le deuxième moyen de fixation (16, 18) sont adaptés pour être mis en prise avec l'extrémité de baguette d'archet ou la baguette d'archet.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que la surface de stabilisation (6), la première et la deuxième section (12, 14) de la première surface de préhension, la deuxième surface de préhension (8) et la languette (4) comportent respectivement une forme, qui est choisie à partir de : un rectangle, un trapèze, un triangle, un carré général, un rectangle avec des angles et/ou des bords arrondis, un trapèze avec des angles et/ou des bords arrondis, un triangle avec des angles et/ou des bords arrondis, un carré général avec des angles et/ou des bords arrondis.
- Elément de recouvrement d'archet (1) selon l'une quelconque des revendications précédentes, sachant que la deuxième section (14) de la première surface de préhension (10) se rétrécit en direction du deuxième élément de fixation (16), sachant que la largeur de la deuxième section (14) diminue de 1 cm - 5 cm, de préférence de 2 cm - 3 cm, à 0,3 cm - 2,0 cm, de préférence 0,8 cm - 1,5 cm.
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