PL3091688T3 - Redukcja zwrotnego narzutu danych podczas inicjalizacji prekodera przesłuchu w systemach DSL - Google Patents

Redukcja zwrotnego narzutu danych podczas inicjalizacji prekodera przesłuchu w systemach DSL

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PL3091688T3
PL3091688T3 PL16171613T PL16171613T PL3091688T3 PL 3091688 T3 PL3091688 T3 PL 3091688T3 PL 16171613 T PL16171613 T PL 16171613T PL 16171613 T PL16171613 T PL 16171613T PL 3091688 T3 PL3091688 T3 PL 3091688T3
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precoders
crosstalk
initialization
reduction
feedback overhead
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PL16171613T
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Guozhu Long
Raphael Jean Cendrillon
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Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
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    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04B—TRANSMISSION
    • H04B3/00—Line transmission systems
    • H04B3/02—Details
    • H04B3/32—Reducing cross-talk, e.g. by compensating
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04B—TRANSMISSION
    • H04B17/00—Monitoring; Testing
    • H04B17/20—Monitoring; Testing of receivers
    • H04B17/24—Monitoring; Testing of receivers with feedback of measurements to the transmitter
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L25/00—Baseband systems
    • H04L25/02—Details ; arrangements for supplying electrical power along data transmission lines
    • H04L25/0202—Channel estimation
    • H04L25/0224—Channel estimation using sounding signals
    • H04L25/0226—Channel estimation using sounding signals sounding signals per se
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L5/00—Arrangements affording multiple use of the transmission path
    • H04L5/003—Arrangements for allocating sub-channels of the transmission path
    • H04L5/0048—Allocation of pilot signals, i.e. of signals known to the receiver
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L5/00—Arrangements affording multiple use of the transmission path
    • H04L5/003—Arrangements for allocating sub-channels of the transmission path
    • H04L5/0058—Allocation criteria
    • H04L5/006—Quality of the received signal, e.g. BER, SNR, water filling
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04M—TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04M3/00—Automatic or semi-automatic exchanges
    • H04M3/002—Applications of echo suppressors or cancellers in telephonic connections
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04M—TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04M3/00—Automatic or semi-automatic exchanges
    • H04M3/22—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing
    • H04M3/26—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing with means for applying test signals or for measuring
    • H04M3/34—Testing for cross-talk
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04M—TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04M3/00—Automatic or semi-automatic exchanges
    • H04M3/22—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing
    • H04M3/2209—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing for lines also used for data transmission
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04M—TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04M3/00—Automatic or semi-automatic exchanges
    • H04M3/22—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing
    • H04M3/26—Arrangements for supervision, monitoring or testing with means for applying test signals or for measuring
    • H04M3/28—Automatic routine testing ; Fault testing; Installation testing; Test methods, test equipment or test arrangements therefor
    • H04M3/30—Automatic routine testing ; Fault testing; Installation testing; Test methods, test equipment or test arrangements therefor for subscriber's lines, for the local loop
    • H04M3/302—Automatic routine testing ; Fault testing; Installation testing; Test methods, test equipment or test arrangements therefor for subscriber's lines, for the local loop using modulation techniques for copper pairs
    • H04M3/304—Automatic routine testing ; Fault testing; Installation testing; Test methods, test equipment or test arrangements therefor for subscriber's lines, for the local loop using modulation techniques for copper pairs and using xDSL modems

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  • Engineering & Computer Science (AREA)
  • Signal Processing (AREA)
  • Computer Networks & Wireless Communication (AREA)
  • Power Engineering (AREA)
  • Quality & Reliability (AREA)
  • Physics & Mathematics (AREA)
  • Electromagnetism (AREA)
  • Cable Transmission Systems, Equalization Of Radio And Reduction Of Echo (AREA)
  • Telephonic Communication Services (AREA)
PL16171613T 2009-01-30 2010-02-01 Redukcja zwrotnego narzutu danych podczas inicjalizacji prekodera przesłuchu w systemach DSL PL3091688T3 (pl)

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US14888709P 2009-01-30 2009-01-30
US14882709P 2009-01-30 2009-01-30
US12/690,757 US8750492B2 (en) 2009-01-30 2010-01-20 Reducing the feedback overhead during crosstalk precoder initialization
EP14200354.0A EP2858294B1 (en) 2009-01-30 2010-02-01 Feedback overhead reduction during crosstalk precoder initialization in DSL systems
EP10735481.3A EP2286574B1 (en) 2009-01-30 2010-02-01 Method and apparatus for reducing feedback overhead during crosstalk precoder initialization
PCT/CN2010/070445 WO2010085921A1 (en) 2009-01-30 2010-02-01 Method and apparatus for reducing feedback overhead during crosstalk precoder initialization
EP16171613.9A EP3091688B1 (en) 2009-01-30 2010-02-01 Reduction of feedback overhead during the initialization of crosstalk precoders in dsl systems

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EP (4) EP3091688B1 (pl)
CN (3) CN104253629B (pl)
ES (1) ES2602959T3 (pl)
PL (2) PL2858294T3 (pl)
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