EP1906104A1 - Procédé de reconnaissance de la nécessité du chargement d'un ballon d'eau chaude - Google Patents
Procédé de reconnaissance de la nécessité du chargement d'un ballon d'eau chaude Download PDFInfo
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- EP1906104A1 EP1906104A1 EP07017812A EP07017812A EP1906104A1 EP 1906104 A1 EP1906104 A1 EP 1906104A1 EP 07017812 A EP07017812 A EP 07017812A EP 07017812 A EP07017812 A EP 07017812A EP 1906104 A1 EP1906104 A1 EP 1906104A1
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24D—DOMESTIC- OR SPACE-HEATING SYSTEMS, e.g. CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEMS; DOMESTIC HOT-WATER SUPPLY SYSTEMS; ELEMENTS OR COMPONENTS THEREFOR
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- F24D19/1006—Arrangement or mounting of control or safety devices for water heating systems
- F24D19/1051—Arrangement or mounting of control or safety devices for water heating systems for domestic hot water
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
- F24H15/00—Control of fluid heaters
- F24H15/20—Control of fluid heaters characterised by control inputs
- F24H15/212—Temperature of the water
- F24H15/219—Temperature of the water after heating
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
- F24H15/00—Control of fluid heaters
- F24H15/20—Control of fluid heaters characterised by control inputs
- F24H15/212—Temperature of the water
- F24H15/223—Temperature of the water in the water storage tank
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
- F24H15/00—Control of fluid heaters
- F24H15/30—Control of fluid heaters characterised by control outputs; characterised by the components to be controlled
- F24H15/335—Control of pumps, e.g. on-off control
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
- F24H1/00—Water heaters, e.g. boilers, continuous-flow heaters or water-storage heaters
- F24H1/18—Water-storage heaters
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- the invention relates to a method for detecting the need for recharging a hot water tank, preferably hot water tap.
- Hot water storage tanks according to the prior art are heated to a desired temperature. By hot water tap or heat losses to the environment, the temperature of the hot water tank cools down. If the temperature drops below a predetermined minimum temperature, the store is reloaded to setpoint temperature.
- the extracted heat output is often greater than that which the storage and the heating can provide. Even with other forms of hot water tap, it may happen that the amount of heat removed is greater than that which provides the heating system with memory. Accordingly, in unfavorable cases, the temperature in the Hot water tank falls below the minimum temperature significantly, as the minimum heat is removed from the memory more heat than is supplied.
- the DE 10 2004 018 034 A1 shows a hot water tank, in which a temperature sensor in the memory or a flow meter are used in the flow path of the service water for switching on the storage charge. Another temperature sensor is located in the hot water tapping line; the temperature detected by this sensor is subtracted from the temperature of the heating medium to the storage charge. Depending on this temperature difference, the volume flow of the heating medium is adjusted.
- the EP 807 790 A2 shows a buffer memory, which is connected via a primary circuit and a heat exchanger with a service water secondary circuit.
- a temperature sensor In the tap water tap is a temperature sensor. The signal of this temperature sensor is used to control the pump in the primary circuit so that the primary circuit heat can transfer from the buffer to the secondary circuit.
- the storage loading of the buffer memory is done by layering heated by solar panels fluid or by a burner.
- the invention is therefore based on the object not to initiate a storage charge until it reaches the minimum temperature, but also to provide a further criterion, after which the storage charge also takes place at a large hot water tap quantity.
- the storage charge only starts when a certain limit temperature, which is greater than the minimum temperature but also less than the setpoint temperature, is exceeded.
- FIG. 1 shows a hot water tank 1, which acts as a layer storage.
- a hot water tank 1 In the lower region of the hot water tank 1 opens a cold water supply line 2. From the upper part of the hot water tank 1 opens a tap water tap 3, in which a temperature sensor 5 is located. In the lower third of the hot water tank 1 is another temperature sensor 4. From the cold water inlet 2 branches off a line in which a pump 6 and a heat exchanger 7 are in series. This line opens into a storage charging line 9, which in turn opens into the upper region of the hot water tank 1.
- the heat exchanger 7 is connected on the secondary side with a heater 8.
- the hot water tank 1 is thermally charged until the temperature sensor 4 has heated in the hot water tank 1 to target temperature T Soll .
- the storage charge is then terminated.
- hot water tap warm water flows from the upper region of the hot water tank 1 in the tap water tap 3.
- Cold Water flows over the cold water inlet 2.
- T min a predetermined minimum temperature
- the pump 6 starts, which also takes the lower portion of the hot water tank 1 via the cold water supply line 2 cold water from the hot water tank 1 and the heat exchanger 7 supplies.
- the circulated water is heated by the heat of the heater 8.
- the heated water then flows through the storage charging line 9 in the hot water tank 1 a.
- FIG. 2 shows the temperature profile at the temperature sensor 4 in the lower region of the hot water storage tank 1, as well as the temperature of the temperature sensor 5 in the hot water tap line 3.
- the setpoint temperature T setpoint of the hot water storage tank 1 is 60 ° C.
- the minimum temperature T min is 50 ° C.
- the temperature T 1 of the temperature sensor 4 is within the hot water tank at a constant temperature of 54 ° C.
- the temperature T 2 of the temperature sensor 5 in the service water tapping line 3 is constantly 20 ° C., because the service water tapping line adapts quickly to the ambient temperature.
- the gradient dT 2 / dt is zero.
- the hot water tap begins. Hot water is removed from the upper region of the hot water tank 1 and flows through the hot tap 3. At the same time, cold water flows through the cold water inlet 2 into the hot water tank 1.
- the temperature is cooled in the hot water tank 1, which is why the temperature T 1 at the temperature sensor 4 in the hot water tank 1 drops.
- the warm water flowing through the service water tap line 3 heats the temperature sensor 5, which is positioned in the service water tap line 3.
- the temperature T 2 increases .
- a temperature gradient of 8 K / s is detected at the temperature sensor 5. This temperature gradient is greater than the limiting gradient of 4 K / s in this case.
- the system detects that there is a large tap of hot water.
- the system recognizes that the temperature T 2 is less than the limit temperature T limit of 55 ° C.
- the limit temperature T limit represents the temperature above which no premature storage recharge takes place. Since the limit temperature T limit is exceeded in the present case, in order to avoid hypothermia of the hot water tank 1, the heater 8 is turned on and the charge of the hot water tank 1 started.
- the temperature T 1 falls on the temperature sensor 4 in the hot water tank 1, but now the cooling of the hot water tank 1 is reduced, ie that the gradient of the detected temperature sensor 4 temperature T 1 decreases.
- the hot water tap line is heated to the temperature of the warm water in the upper region of the hot water tank 1.
- the temperature T 2 detected by means of the temperature sensor 5 can be greater than the temperature T 1 detected by means of the temperature sensor 4 at this time.
- the temperature T 2 detected by means of the temperature sensor 5 can be greater than the starting temperature of the hot water store 1 when the service water is tapped. Since cools the memory as a whole by the removal of water, now the temperature T 2 , which is measured with the temperature sensor 5 in the tap water tap 3, now falls again. At time t 4 , the hot water tap is completed. As a result, now no more water flows through the hot water tap line 3; the temperature sensor 5 in the hot tap line 3 cools again - relatively quickly - to ambient temperature. The stored charge is, however, continued until the temperature T 1, which is measured with the temperature sensor 4 in the hot water tank 1, the set temperature T set reaches 60 ° C.
- the inventive method can also be carried out in conventional hot water tanks with internal heating coil. It is also possible to initiate a storage charge in each case the hot water tap - regardless of a mean limit temperature T limit .
- the measurement can be carried out continuously or discontinuously at specific time intervals (eg 15 ms).
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PL07017812T PL1906104T3 (pl) | 2006-09-18 | 2007-09-12 | Sposób rozpoznawania konieczności doładowania zasobnika ciepłej wody |
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AT0155206A AT504286B1 (de) | 2006-09-18 | 2006-09-18 | Verfahren zur ladung eines warmwasserspeichers |
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EP1906104A1 true EP1906104A1 (fr) | 2008-04-02 |
EP1906104B1 EP1906104B1 (fr) | 2017-06-07 |
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EP (1) | EP1906104B1 (fr) |
AT (1) | AT504286B1 (fr) |
DE (1) | DE102007043442A1 (fr) |
PL (1) | PL1906104T3 (fr) |
Cited By (4)
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EP3034954A1 (fr) * | 2014-12-16 | 2016-06-22 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Appareil de commande pour un système d'eau chaude et procédé de fonctionnement d'un tel appareil de commande |
EP2597380A3 (fr) * | 2011-11-22 | 2018-03-28 | BSH Hausgeräte GmbH | Dispositif, procédé, programme informatique et accumulateur d'eau chaude pour la régulation de la température |
CN111486591A (zh) * | 2020-04-24 | 2020-08-04 | 苏红卫 | 一种出水用智能恒温系统及实现方法 |
AT17297U1 (de) * | 2020-09-16 | 2021-11-15 | Rimpler Dr Gerhard | Warmwasserspeicher |
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DE102011113615A1 (de) | 2011-09-16 | 2013-03-21 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Verfahren und Vorrichtung zur Warmwasserbereitung |
DE102019109756A1 (de) * | 2019-04-12 | 2020-10-15 | Viessmann Werke Gmbh & Co Kg | Verfahren zum Betrieb einer energietechnischen Anlage |
Citations (7)
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EP0121164A2 (fr) | 1983-03-15 | 1984-10-10 | Friedrich Müller | Appareil pour régler et/ou pour surveiller l'amenée de chaleur à un chauffe-eau et/ou à un générateur de chaleur ambiante |
DE29508147U1 (de) * | 1994-05-24 | 1996-06-27 | Joh. Vaillant Gmbh U. Co, 42859 Remscheid | Warmwasserspeicher |
DE19524352A1 (de) * | 1995-07-04 | 1997-01-09 | Buderus Heiztechnik Gmbh | Energieoptimierte Aufladeregelung für einen Wasserspeicher |
EP0807790A2 (fr) * | 1996-05-15 | 1997-11-19 | SOLVIS Solarsysteme GmbH | Méthode et système pour préparer de l'eau chaude sanitaire |
DE19855442A1 (de) | 1997-12-01 | 1999-06-02 | Vaillant Joh Gmbh & Co | Speicheranordnung |
DE102004018034A1 (de) | 2004-04-14 | 2005-11-17 | Stiebel Eltron Gmbh & Co. Kg | Brauchwasserspeicher für Wärmepumpen |
EP1795818A1 (fr) | 2005-12-08 | 2007-06-13 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Procédé pour préparer de l'eau chaude utilisant un chauffe-eau et un accumulateur stratifié |
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- 2006-09-18 AT AT0155206A patent/AT504286B1/de not_active IP Right Cessation
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- 2007-09-12 EP EP07017812.4A patent/EP1906104B1/fr active Active
- 2007-09-12 DE DE102007043442A patent/DE102007043442A1/de not_active Withdrawn
- 2007-09-12 PL PL07017812T patent/PL1906104T3/pl unknown
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Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
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EP0121164A2 (fr) | 1983-03-15 | 1984-10-10 | Friedrich Müller | Appareil pour régler et/ou pour surveiller l'amenée de chaleur à un chauffe-eau et/ou à un générateur de chaleur ambiante |
DE29508147U1 (de) * | 1994-05-24 | 1996-06-27 | Joh. Vaillant Gmbh U. Co, 42859 Remscheid | Warmwasserspeicher |
DE19524352A1 (de) * | 1995-07-04 | 1997-01-09 | Buderus Heiztechnik Gmbh | Energieoptimierte Aufladeregelung für einen Wasserspeicher |
EP0807790A2 (fr) * | 1996-05-15 | 1997-11-19 | SOLVIS Solarsysteme GmbH | Méthode et système pour préparer de l'eau chaude sanitaire |
DE19855442A1 (de) | 1997-12-01 | 1999-06-02 | Vaillant Joh Gmbh & Co | Speicheranordnung |
DE102004018034A1 (de) | 2004-04-14 | 2005-11-17 | Stiebel Eltron Gmbh & Co. Kg | Brauchwasserspeicher für Wärmepumpen |
EP1795818A1 (fr) | 2005-12-08 | 2007-06-13 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Procédé pour préparer de l'eau chaude utilisant un chauffe-eau et un accumulateur stratifié |
Cited By (4)
Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
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EP2597380A3 (fr) * | 2011-11-22 | 2018-03-28 | BSH Hausgeräte GmbH | Dispositif, procédé, programme informatique et accumulateur d'eau chaude pour la régulation de la température |
EP3034954A1 (fr) * | 2014-12-16 | 2016-06-22 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Appareil de commande pour un système d'eau chaude et procédé de fonctionnement d'un tel appareil de commande |
CN111486591A (zh) * | 2020-04-24 | 2020-08-04 | 苏红卫 | 一种出水用智能恒温系统及实现方法 |
AT17297U1 (de) * | 2020-09-16 | 2021-11-15 | Rimpler Dr Gerhard | Warmwasserspeicher |
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AT504286B1 (de) | 2008-09-15 |
DE102007043442A1 (de) | 2008-03-27 |
PL1906104T3 (pl) | 2017-10-31 |
AT504286A1 (de) | 2008-04-15 |
EP1906104B1 (fr) | 2017-06-07 |
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