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EP0365443B1
EP0365443B1 EP19890420388 EP89420388A EP0365443B1 EP 0365443 B1 EP0365443 B1 EP 0365443B1 EP 19890420388 EP19890420388 EP 19890420388 EP 89420388 A EP89420388 A EP 89420388A EP 0365443 B1 EP0365443 B1 EP 0365443B1
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  • the present invention relates to the adaptation to a traditional analog watch of a mechanically simple system for timing long times.
  • the ideal solution is provided by the chronograph with hour counter, failing which by an ordinary watch, but fitted with a mobile ring rotating at the periphery of the glass, graduated in 60 minutes, carrying an index which can be placed opposite the hour hand or the minute hand depending on the duration envisaged.
  • the first solution has the disadvantage of being expensive, at least if one wishes an analog display, this type of product being mechanically complex.
  • the second solution which is very simple, is too rudimentary in terms of reading accuracy, for a period exceeding the hour.
  • the system according to the invention achieves at a lower cost, without any particular draft and without increasing the thickness, a simplified chronograph system with a counting capacity of 12 hours, and a readability equal to the minute.
  • This advantage is obtained by the use of a digital time display, and not by hand, and by a particular layout of the fixed disc bearing the minute circle.
  • the system according to the invention using a classic clockwork movement, consists of a disc (I) graduated in hours, but in a reverse sequence to that of a revolution d 'usual fixed hours, disc attached to the hour wheel, and a minute turn (3), plotted as follows: establishment of an interval (4) equal to one hourly division, i.e. 30 °, then division of the balance circumferential in I2, ie 27 ° 5, and finally redivision of these 27 ° 5 in 5. Each hourly division of the moving disc (I) is also divided into 5.
  • the small size of the system according to the invention and its simplicity are used to make a large capacity time counter (12 hours), with a readability equal to one minute, and offering the usual indications of civil time by hour, minute, second hands.
  • the glass (8) is fixed to the case between the two discs (7) and (9), in the annular housing (I2).
  • the disc (9), driven out on the hour wheel (I3), and under the hand, is at the same level as the outer ring (7); its position relative to the hour hand can be arbitrary, as shown in drawing 2; the graduation of the two discs (9 and 7) is identical in all respects to that in FIG. any possibility of minimal but untimely movement of the transparent disc (9).
  • the movable disc performs the functions usually devolved to the hour and minute hands, thereby saving significant space in height; the positioning of this disc can be carried out without the usual constraints imposed by the needles (setting to the mark), finally, the mobile supporting this disc has a high torque (hour wheel).
  • the system according to the invention can also use one of the conventional processes (pushers, hammers, brakes, hearts), to allow the start, stop, reset of the mobile disc, and thus offers, provided with a second chronographic hand, identical to that of an hour counter chronograph, but at a lower price, given the reduction in the number of parts.
  • the system according to the invention is particularly intended for displaying information on time or chronographic instruments.

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La présente invention concerne l'adaptation à une montre traditionnelle analogique d'un système mécaniquement simple de chronométrage des temps longs.The present invention relates to the adaptation to a traditional analog watch of a mechanically simple system for timing long times.

La nécessité se fait souvent sentir pour les possesseurs de montres dites "simples" ( heures, minutes, secondes ), d'un procèdé rèpondant à cette exigence.The need is often felt for the owners of so-called "simple" watches (hours, minutes, seconds), of a process meeting this requirement.

La solution idéale est fournie par le chronographe à compteur d'heures, à défaut par une montre ordinaire, mais munie d'une bague mobile en rotation à la périphérie du verre, graduée en 60 minutes, portant un index qui peut être placé en face de l'aiguille des heures ou de celle des minutes selon la durée envisagée.The ideal solution is provided by the chronograph with hour counter, failing which by an ordinary watch, but fitted with a mobile ring rotating at the periphery of the glass, graduated in 60 minutes, carrying an index which can be placed opposite the hour hand or the minute hand depending on the duration envisaged.

La première solution présente l'inconvénient d'être onéreuse, du moins si l'on désire un affichage analogique, ce type de produit étant mécaniquement complexe.The first solution has the disadvantage of being expensive, at least if one wishes an analog display, this type of product being mechanically complex.

La seconde solution, d'une grande simplicité, est par trop rudimentaire quant à la précision de lecture, pour une durée excèdant l'heure.The second solution, which is very simple, is too rudimentary in terms of reading accuracy, for a period exceeding the hour.

Des systèmes dits " compteurs à marche permanente " ont aussi été utilisés, essentiellement sur des montres mécaniques, donnant une précision de l'ordre de la minute, mais souffrant d'une capacité de comptage trop faible: jamais plus d'une heure, ou même moins, du fait de l'entrainement d'un disque ou d'une aiguille par l'axe des minutes.Systems known as "permanent running counters" have also been used, essentially on mechanical watches, giving an accuracy of the order of a minute, but suffering from too low a counting capacity: never more than an hour, or even less, due to the drive of a disc or a needle by the minute axis.

Le système selon l'invention réalise à moindres frais, sans ébauche particulière et sans augmentation de l'épaisseur, un système chronographe simplifié d'une capacité de comptage de I2 heures, et d'une finesse de lecture égale à la minute.The system according to the invention achieves at a lower cost, without any particular draft and without increasing the thickness, a simplified chronograph system with a counting capacity of 12 hours, and a readability equal to the minute.

Il utilise le système Vernier, tout comme les procèdés décrits dans les brevets GB-A-22067I2 du 6 Juillet I987, et DE-A-3503672 du 4 Février I985, procèdés qui permettent d'obtenir l'indication des minutes au moyen d'un disque chassé sur la roue des heures; l'indication de l'heure étant obtenue classiquement au moyen d'une aiguille dessinée sur le disque, et les minutes par recherche de la coincïdence entre une graduation du disque fixe et une graduation du disque mobile, il s'ensuit que la lecture desdites minutes n'est pas aisée, la position de coïncidence variant à chaque heure de 32°72 pour 5 minutes ( 360°/II ), et conforme aux habitudes seulement de midi à I heure. A I heure 5 minutes, la position de la coincïdence fait courir le risque de lire I heure I0 minutes, à 2 heures 5 minutes, 2 heures I5 minutes, etc...It uses the Vernier system, just like the processes described in patents GB-A-22067I2 of July 6, I987, and DE-A-3503672 of February 4, I985, processes which make it possible to obtain the indication of the minutes by means of a disc chased on the hour wheel; the indication of the hour being conventionally obtained by means of a hand drawn on the disc, and the minutes by searching for coincidence between a graduation of the fixed disc and a graduation of the movable disc, it follows that the reading of said minutes is not easy, the position of coincidence varying every hour from 32 ° 72 for 5 minutes (360 ° / II), and consistent with habits only from noon to 1 hour. At I hour 5 minutes, the position of coincidence runs the risk of reading I hour I0 minutes, at 2 hours 5 minutes, 2 hours I5 minutes, etc ...

Notre système ne présente pas cet inconvénient, la position des coïncidences désignant les minutes étant fixe, et quasi analogue, pour l'une des variantes, aux minuteries traditionnelles.Our system does not have this drawback, the position of coincidences designating the minutes being fixed, and almost analogous, for one of the variants, to traditional timers.

Cet avantage est obtenu par l'usage d'un affichage de l'heure numérique, et non par aiguille, et par un tracé particulier du disque fixe portant le tour des minutes.This advantage is obtained by the use of a digital time display, and not by hand, and by a particular layout of the fixed disc bearing the minute circle.

Il est à noter d'ailleurs que , si ce système dans sa variante préférée sert à la réalisation d'un chronographe, il peut tout aussi bien se borner à indiquer l'heure, soit seulement à ce titre, soit en complèment d'un système habituel, à aiguilles, pour une autre heure locale par exemple.It should also be noted that, if this system in its variant preferred is used for the production of a chronograph, it can just as easily indicate the time, either only as such, or in addition to a usual system, with hands, for another local time for example.

Dans sa version de base, la plus simple, le système selon l'invention, utilisant un mouvement classique d'horlogerie, est constitué d'un disque (I) gradué en heures, mais dans une succession inverse à celle d'un tour d'heures fixe habituel, disque solidaire de la roue des heures, et d'un tour des minutes (3), tracé comme suit: établissement d'un intervalle (4) égal à une division horaire, soit 30°, puis division du solde circonférentiel en I2, soit 27°5, et enfin redivision de ces 27°5 en 5. Chaque division horaire du disque mobile (I) est également divisée en 5.In its basic version, the simplest, the system according to the invention, using a classic clockwork movement, consists of a disc (I) graduated in hours, but in a reverse sequence to that of a revolution d 'usual fixed hours, disc attached to the hour wheel, and a minute turn (3), plotted as follows: establishment of an interval (4) equal to one hourly division, i.e. 30 °, then division of the balance circumferential in I2, ie 27 ° 5, and finally redivision of these 27 ° 5 in 5. Each hourly division of the moving disc (I) is also divided into 5.

La saisie de l'information s'effectue dans l'ordre suivant: lecture de l'heure, numérique, en face de la division (4) du disque fixe (3); lecture "aux cinq minutes" par appréciation de la meilleure coïncidence entre un repère (2) du disque mobile (I) et un repère (6) du tour des minutes. Enfin, lecture "à la minute" par appréciation de la plus proche coïncidence. L'addition de ces deux dernières lectures réalise le compte total des minutes. A titre d'exemple; la figure I/2 indique 8 heures 42 minutes; une éventuelle coïncidence entre deux repères (2) et (6) rend bien sûr superflue cette addition.The information is entered in the following order: reading the time, numerically, opposite the division (4) of the fixed disk (3); reading "every five minutes" by assessment of the best coincidence between a mark (2) on the mobile disc (I) and a mark (6) around the minutes. Finally, read "by the minute" by appreciation of the closest coincidence. The addition of these last two readings makes the total count of minutes. For exemple; Figure I / 2 indicates 8 hours 42 minutes; a possible coincidence between two marks (2) and (6) of course makes this addition superfluous.

Par utilisation d'un mouvement tournant dans le sens anti-horaire, il est possible de graduer tour d'heures et tour des minutes dans le sens conventionnel.By using a movement turning anti-clockwise, it is possible to graduate rounds of hours and rounds of minutes in the conventional direction.

L'usage d'un cache sur les chiffres d'heures, cache muni d'une ouverture de valeur égale, angulairement, à la division (4) et positionnée en face de celle-ci est possible pour faciliter la lecture de l'heure. D'autres positionnements de l'ouverture de ce cache peuvent être adoptés, tout comme leur nombre peut être augmenté, dans le but par exemple d'indiquer plusieurs heures locales.The use of a cache on the hour digits, cache fitted with a opening of equal value, angularly, to the division (4) and positioned opposite it is possible to facilitate the reading of the time. Other positions of the opening of this cache can be adopted, just as their number can be increased, for example in order to indicate several local times.

Dans sa variante préfèrée, le faible encombrement du système selon l'invention et sa simplicité, sont mis à profit pour réaliser un compteur de temps de grande capacité (I2 heures), à finesse de lecture égale à la minute, et offrant les indications habituelles du temps civil par des aiguilles d'heures, minutes, secondes.In its preferred variant, the small size of the system according to the invention and its simplicity are used to make a large capacity time counter (12 hours), with a readability equal to one minute, and offering the usual indications of civil time by hour, minute, second hands.

Une montre traditionnelle (figure 2), équipée d'une couronne (7) analogue à celle des montres de plongée, pouvant être mise en rotation sous l'effet d'une manipulation volontaire, excluant tout déplacement aléatoire, est aussi munie d'un disque transparent (9), laissantpercevoir le tracé (I0), du cadran ici stylisé (II). Le verre (8) est fixé au boitier entre les deux disques (7) et (9), dans le logement annulaire (I2).A traditional watch (Figure 2), equipped with a crown (7) similar to that of diving watches, which can be rotated under the effect of voluntary manipulation, excluding any random movement, is also provided with a transparent disc (9), revealing the line (I0), of the stylized dial (II). The glass (8) is fixed to the case between the two discs (7) and (9), in the annular housing (I2).

Le disque (9), chassé sur la roue des heures (I3), et sous l'aiguille, est au même niveau que la bague extèrieure (7); sa position par rapport à l'aiguille des heures peut être quelconque, ainsi que reprèsenté sur le dessin 2 ; la graduation des deux disques (9 et 7) est en tous points identique à celle de la figure I. Les jeux d'engrenages entre chaussée et minuterie, puis entre pignon de minuterie et canon seront réduits dans toute la mesure du possible, pour éviter toute possibilité de déplacement minime mais intempestif du disque transparent (9).The disc (9), driven out on the hour wheel (I3), and under the hand, is at the same level as the outer ring (7); its position relative to the hour hand can be arbitrary, as shown in drawing 2; the graduation of the two discs (9 and 7) is identical in all respects to that in FIG. any possibility of minimal but untimely movement of the transparent disc (9).

Pour débuter un chronométrage, il suffit de placer la graduation zéro de la couronne (7), en regard exact de la graduation I du disque transparent (9).To start timing, simply place the zero graduation of the crown (7), exactly opposite the graduation I of the transparent disc (9).

Il est à remarquer ici que le système selon l'invention offre une possibilité à laquelle ne peuvent prétendre les compteurs de temps classiques: celle de débuter un chronomètrage en affichant au préalable une quelconque durée.It should be noted here that the system according to the invention offers a possibility which conventional time counters cannot claim: that of starting a timing by displaying any duration beforehand.

Les avantages du système selon l'invention, même dans sa version simplifiée, sont appréciables: un seul élément, le disque mobile réalise les fonctions habituellement dévolues aux aiguilles d'heures et de minutes, d'où gain de place important en hauteur; la mise en place de ce disque peut être réalisée sans les habituelles contraintes qu'imposent les aiguilles (mise au repère), enfin, le mobile supportant ce disque possède un couple élevé ( roue des heures ).The advantages of the system according to the invention, even in its simplified version, are appreciable: a single element, the movable disc performs the functions usually devolved to the hour and minute hands, thereby saving significant space in height; the positioning of this disc can be carried out without the usual constraints imposed by the needles (setting to the mark), finally, the mobile supporting this disc has a high torque (hour wheel).

Le système selon l'invention peut aussi utiliser l'un des procèdés classique (poussoirs, marteaux, freins, coeurs), pour permettre le départ, l'arrèt, la remise à zéro du disque mobile, et offre ainsi, muni d'une aiguille de seconde chronographique, des prestations identiques à celles d'un chronographe à compteur d'heures, mais à prix moindre, compte tenu de la réduction du nombre de pièces.The system according to the invention can also use one of the conventional processes (pushers, hammers, brakes, hearts), to allow the start, stop, reset of the mobile disc, and thus offers, provided with a second chronographic hand, identical to that of an hour counter chronograph, but at a lower price, given the reduction in the number of parts.

Des procèdés plus rècents, tels qu'asservissement complet ou partiel du mobile de chronographe à une commande electronique et moteur electromécanique sont également possibles avec le système selon l'invention.More recent methods, such as complete or partial enslavement of the chronograph mobile to an electronic control and electromechanical motor are also possible with the system according to the invention.

Le système selon l'invention est particulièrement destiné à l'affichage de l'information sur des instruments horaires ou chronographiques.The system according to the invention is particularly intended for displaying information on time or chronographic instruments.

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  1. An hourly or chronographic display system consisting of a moving disc ( I ) completing one revolution in I2 hours and a fixed section ( 3 ) concentric with said disc, the whole constituting a scale for hour and minute read-out, system which is characterized by the fact that the moving disc ( I ) comprises I2 equal and numbered divisions, each division also being divided into five parts, while the fixed section ( 3 ) comprises a circumferential section of 330° graduated into 60 equal divisions marked from five to five,
  2. An hourly or chronographic display system as claimed in claim I, which is characterized by the fact that the direction of rotation of the moving disc ( I ) is conventional, i. e. clockwise, and the numbering sequence of the hours on the moving disc ( I ) and the five to five minute markings on the fixed section ( 3 ) are reversed.
  3. An hourly or chronographic display system as claimed in claim I, which is characterized by the fact that the direction of rotation of the moving disc ( I ) is reversed, i. e. anticlockwise, and the sequence of the numbering of the hours on the moving disc ( I ) and the five to five minute markings on the fixed section ( 3 ) are conventional.
  4. An hourly or chronographic display system as claimed in claim 2 or 3, which is characterized by the fact that the numerical hour display is provided opposite the break ( 4 ) in the line of the fixed section ( 3 ).
  5. An hourly or chronographic display system as claimed in claim 2 or 3, which is characterized by the fact that one or more apertures are made in a mask on the hourly figures.
  6. An hourly and chronographic instrument, as claimed in claim 2, which is characterized by the fact that it is fitted with hour and minute hands.
  7. An hourly and chronographic instrument as claimed in claim 6, which is characterized by the fact it is fitted with a second hand.
  8. An hourly and chronographic instrument as claimed in claims 4, 5, 6, or 7, which is characterized by the fact that the part ( 7 ) of the scale which is not integral with the movement can be rotated concentrically with the dial ( II ).
  9. An hourly and chronographic instrument as claimed in claim 8, characterized by the fact it is fitted with one or more pushrods controlling the drive for, the stopping, and the return to the initial position of the moving disc ( 9 ).
  10. An hourly and chronographic instrument as claimed in claim 9, characterized by the fact it is fitted with a chronographic second hand.
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