EP0042501B1 - Dispositif pour la transmission des valeurs mesurées dans un système d'avertissement d'incendie - Google Patents
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- the invention relates to a device for transmitting measured values in a fire alarm system of the type defined in the preamble of claim 1.
- DE-AS 2 533 382 proposed a method for transmitting measured values in a fire detection system, in which the measured values determined by individual fire detectors lying in a chain on the detection lines are passed analogously to a signaling center and there for obtaining differentiated malfunctions. or alarm messages are linked, with all fire detectors being separated from the detection line by a voltage change at the beginning of each query cycle and then being switched on again in a predetermined order in such a way that each fire detector also connects the subsequent fire detectors to the line voltage after a time delay corresponding to its measured value switches on and that in the signaling center the respective detector address is derived from the number of previous increases in the line current and the measured value from the length of the switching delay in question.
- the installation of the serial detector must incur increased effort to ensure that the detectors are connected correctly. Even if one speaks of a two-wire system, the detector still has three terminals and you have to make sure that the incoming and outgoing wire are not interchanged. Compared to the classic installation technology of two-wire systems, this means an aggravation and also a source of errors.
- the number of detectors per line is limited by the resistance of the switches connected in series.
- the object of the invention is to provide a device for transmitting measured values in a fire alarm system, which avoid the disadvantages mentioned above, d. H. enable the transmission of measured values even if a fire detector in a detection line fails or a detector line is interrupted or short-circuited, which also allows the fire detectors to be connected to the detection lines without having to take care that the entry and exit of the detection line does not are exchanged and which ultimately allow a higher current to be sent through the detection lines or a larger number of fire detectors to be connected to the detection line.
- the device according to the invention is preferably used in a method for transmitting measured values in a fire alarm system in such a way that, after the measured value of the last detector of a line has been transmitted, current is fed into the detection lines from both sides. By connecting the detection lines on both sides, the current serving to supply the fire detectors can be practically quadrupled.
- the measurement values are transmitted in the delay time between two detector connections.
- the time delay is not dependent on the measured value and remains constant.
- a detector is switched on, ie when the connection to the control center is established, this is followed by the conversion of the measured value into a coded pulse sequence or an alternating voltage signal whose frequency is dependent on the measured value. It goes without saying that the duration of the measured value signal must be shorter than the delay time.
- FR-A-2 176004 a transmission system has become known in which local transmission stations for the transmission of messages via a first line loop in series and for monitoring via a second line loop are connected in parallel to a central station. Messages from the local transmission stations are transmitted via the first line loop, for example by means of direct current pulses.
- the central station transmits alternating current pulses via the second line loop at certain time intervals, which actuate electronic switching devices in the local transmission stations and initiate the transmission of a message via the first line loop when the switching device reaches the switching position assigned to the individual transmission station. All transmission stations receive the monitoring impulses at the same time, they have no bidirectional switching elements and, above all, no equivalent inputs that make installation easier.
- the transmission system of FR-A-2 176 004 requires an increased outlay on lines.
- Signaling lines Li ... Li emanate from terminals K 1a ... K ia from a signal center Z.
- the fire detectors M 11 ... M 1m essentially contain, in addition to sensors sensitive to fire parameters, a transducer, a timer, and a bidirectional switch S. From the last fire detector of a detection line, two lines are connected to the terminals K) x ... K; x of the signaling center Z returned. After applying the line voltage to the terminals K 1a , a timer starts to run in the M 11 detector. After a certain delay, the switch S 11 closes and applies the line voltage to the detector M 12 , where a timer also starts to run again. In this way, all switches of the detectors in a zone close in succession. This process can be repeated periodically so that the fire detectors of a detection line are polled cyclically. After the line voltage has been applied to a detector or the relevant switch has been closed, the measured values from the sensor can be transmitted to the signaling center.
- the detector line evaluation circuit of the signal center Z is connected to the terminals K; a of the lines concerned.
- the occurrence of a line fault or the failure of a detector is detected in the signal center Z by the fact that the polling cycle stops.
- the detector line evaluation circuit is automatically switched to terminals K ix of the relevant detector lines.
- the fire detectors are now interrogated in the opposite direction to the faulty location.
- FIG. 2 shows the circuit arrangement of a fire detector M, in which the time delay is controlled by the measured value.
- a smoke-sensitive measuring ionization chamber MK is drawn as the sensor, the current of which generates the voltage U k at the external resistor R 2 . This voltage is fed to the input of the transducer MW, the output voltage U A of which acts on the timing element T.
- the bidirectional switch 19 is used to switch the line voltage to the next detector.
- the diodes D13 and D14 are used for balancing, i. h, when installing the fire detector, it is not necessary to pay attention to the correct sequence of connections 2 and 3.
- transistor T19 When the line voltage is applied to terminals 1A / 1B and 2 or 1A / 1B and 3, transistor T19 initially remains blocked. At the same time, the timer T starts and, after a time delay which is given by the value of the voltage U A , opens the transistor T19 and thus switches the line voltage to the next detector.
- a resistor in the fire detector is also switched on, which causes the current increase, which is evaluated in the control center to determine the detector address.
- FIG. 3 shows a circuit arrangement of a preferred embodiment of a fire detector according to FIG. 2.
- a fire detector with a measurement ionization chamber serves as an example as a smoke-sensitive sensor.
- the measurement ionization chamber MK is connected in series with a comparison resistor R 2, in its place a reference ionization chamber can also be used, to the stabilized voltage U s .
- the capacitor C20 is charged via the rectifier D11 and bridges the systemic periodic interruptions in the line voltage.
- the transistor T16 forms, together with the resistor R and the zener diode D12, a voltage stabilization U s in a known manner.
- the MOSFET T18 serves as an impedance converter, ie it transmits the output voltage U K of the sensor to the input of the operational amplifier A, the operating point of which is determined by the resistors R4, R5 and R6.
- the output voltage U A of the operational amplifier is proportional to the sensor voltage U K.
- the transistor T17 In the normal operating state, the transistor T17 is not conductive, the gate connection of the bidirectional switch T19 is therefore at the potential of the connection 1, as a result of which the transistor T19 is kept conductive.
- the voltage across the capacitor C21 is approximately limited by the diode 15 to the value of the amplifier output voltage U A.
- the capacitor C21 discharges to zero via the resistors R7, R9 and R10.
- a charging current flows through the resistor R7 to the capacitor C21 and further via the resistor R10.
- the transistor T17 thus becomes conductive and an additional current flows through the resistor R8.
- T19 jumps below the threshold voltage of the field effect transistor and thus blocks T19. If the capacitor C21 has now charged up to the output voltage U A of the amplifier via the resistor R7, no further charging current flows to C21, which means that T17 blocks. The gate of T19 jumps back to the potential of connection 1 and thus brings switch T19 into the conductive state.
- the diodes D13 and D14 ensure a symmetrical supply to the detector electronics, which, together with the symmetry properties of the transistor T19, enables the optional supply from connection 2 or connection 3.
- circuit arrangements with other symmetrical switching elements instead of the transistor T19 are conceivable. JFETs or relays can also be used as bidirectional switches.
- FIG. 4 shows an embodiment of the method according to the invention in which the time delay is independent of the measured value.
- the mode of operation is similar to that shown in FIG. 2.
- the output voltage U A of the transducer MW does not control the timing element T.
- the measured value is converted into a coded pulse train or an AC signal, the frequency of which is determined by the measured value. This signal is received at the control center and evaluated accordingly.
- the timer T runs and switches on the transistor T19 after a fixed preselected time and thus switches the line voltage on to the next detector. It goes without saying that the duration of the measured value signal must be shorter than the switch-on delay.
- This embodiment has the advantage that it is possible to separate between the transmission of measured values and the addressing of the detector.
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AT81104115T ATE13231T1 (de) | 1980-06-23 | 1981-05-29 | Einrichtung zur uebertragung von messwerten in einem brandmeldesystem. |
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CH4803/80A CH651688A5 (de) | 1980-06-23 | 1980-06-23 | Verfahren zur uebertragung von messwerten in einer brandmeldeanlage und einrichtung zur durchfuehrung des verfahrens. |
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EP (1) | EP0042501B1 (fr) |
JP (1) | JPS5730098A (fr) |
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CH (1) | CH651688A5 (fr) |
DE (1) | DE3170379D1 (fr) |
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FI (1) | FI811935L (fr) |
NO (1) | NO152526C (fr) |
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ATE13231T1 (de) | 1985-05-15 |
EP0042501A1 (fr) | 1981-12-30 |
JPS64753B2 (fr) | 1989-01-09 |
DK263881A (da) | 1981-12-24 |
CH651688A5 (de) | 1985-09-30 |
NO152526B (no) | 1985-07-01 |
NO152526C (no) | 1985-10-09 |
JPS5730098A (en) | 1982-02-18 |
US4404548A (en) | 1983-09-13 |
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