WO2002064929A1 - Electric closing sequence control device - Google Patents

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WO2002064929A1
WO2002064929A1 PCT/EP2002/001523 EP0201523W WO02064929A1 WO 2002064929 A1 WO2002064929 A1 WO 2002064929A1 EP 0201523 W EP0201523 W EP 0201523W WO 02064929 A1 WO02064929 A1 WO 02064929A1
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    • EFIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05FDEVICES FOR MOVING WINGS INTO OPEN OR CLOSED POSITION; CHECKS FOR WINGS; WING FITTINGS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, CONCERNED WITH THE FUNCTIONING OF THE WING
    • E05F5/00Braking devices, e.g. checks; Stops; Buffers
    • E05F5/12Braking devices, e.g. checks; Stops; Buffers specially for preventing the closing of a wing before another wing has been closed
    • EFIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05YINDEXING SCHEME RELATING TO HINGES OR OTHER SUSPENSION DEVICES FOR DOORS, WINDOWS OR WINGS AND DEVICES FOR MOVING WINGS INTO OPEN OR CLOSED POSITION, CHECKS FOR WINGS AND WING FITTINGS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, CONCERNED WITH THE FUNCTIONING OF THE WING
    • E05Y2900/00Application of doors, windows, wings or fittings thereof
    • E05Y2900/10Application of doors, windows, wings or fittings thereof for buildings or parts thereof
    • E05Y2900/13Application of doors, windows, wings or fittings thereof for buildings or parts thereof characterised by the type of wing
    • E05Y2900/132Doors

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  • the invention relates to an electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and an active leaf, the active leaf being ascertainable by means of a control which can be influenced by the fixed leaf.
  • Double-leaf doors of the type mentioned overlap one another in the central region, so that one door leaf forming a passive leaf has a stop for the other door leaf forming the active leaf, a certain closing sequence being required for their tight closure if the door leaves are to be properly closed .
  • closing sequence controllers are used, which always ensure the sequence of the transitions of the two door leaves into the closed position, which sequence is necessary for the aforementioned correct closing.
  • a certain sequence of the closing movement of both door leaves is also necessary in order to only allow the active leaf, which is usually provided with a lock, to reach the closed position only when the passive leaf forming the door stop, which generally has the striking plate or the like, is closed.
  • the closing sequence is regulated:
  • the active and active leaves are held in the open position by an electrically controllable locking device.
  • the locking device of the active leaf is released either with a time delay to the locking device of the passive leaf or after the closed position of the passive leaf has been reached.
  • the active leaf is moved in an open position (e.g. by an electrically controlled locking device). 30 ° opening angle), and the lock is only released when the passive leaf has reached its closed position.
  • the first variant is particularly suitable for operating cases in which the active leaf or active and passive leaf should be locked in the open position in normal operation, while the second variant is also suitable for operating conditions in which the passive leaf or both door leaves are closed in normal operation are.
  • the object of the present invention is therefore to eliminate the disadvantages mentioned above and to provide an electrical closing sequence control which ensures a secure closing sequence of a door.
  • the electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and an active leaf, in which the active leaf can be ascertained by means of a control that can be influenced by the fixed leaf, characterized in that a displacement sensor is arranged on the fixed leaf and on the active leaf, which permanently controls the Position of fixed and active leaf determined and that the determined positions serve to influence the locking mechanism.
  • the door in which the closing sequence control according to the invention is used, consists of a fixed leaf and an active leaf which are driven by a motor and a transmission and are supplied with energy via corresponding supply lines.
  • the elements and individual parts required for this are well known and are therefore not explained in detail. Only the electrical closing sequence control is explained below.
  • the electrical closing sequence control is based on the principle of position detection.
  • the passive leaf determines the current angular position of the passive leaf via an absolute or incremental displacement sensor attached to the motor, the gearbox or directly on the door.
  • the current angular position determined in each case is fed to a controller which tracks the active leaf in the closing cycle by means of a constant angular offset.
  • the active leaf determines the current angular position of the active leaf via an absolute or incremental displacement sensor attached to the motor, the gearbox or directly on the door, and transmits the current determined angular position to a controller, which tracks the passive leaf in the opening cycle via a constant angular offset.
  • the path encoder described here can be of any type.
  • the determination of the respective sash positions is carried out permanently during the electrical operation of the fixed and active sashes via one of the travel sensors described above, that is also during the rest phases in the open and closed positions.
  • both wings are in the open position and the passive wing is moved towards the closed position, the active wing remains stationary until the passive wing has reached the POS_AUF_ STAND-ANGLEVERSATZ position.
  • a corresponding signal is then transmitted to the control from the travel sensor and the active leaf starts with the same driving curve as the fixed leaf.
  • the active leaf follows the passive leaf with a constant angular offset.
  • the passive leaf starts moving towards its open position as soon as the active leaf has reached the POS_ZU_GANG-WINKELVERSATZ position. In this case, the passive leaf follows the active leaf with the same driving curve with a constant angular offset.
  • the controls of the two wings are connected to each other via a data exchange.
  • This is expediently designed as serial data communication via which the Door angles are permanently replaced. This means that each control unit knows the position of the other door leaf.
  • the fixed leaf can be switched off via a program switch or another suitable instrument.

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The invention relates to an electric closing sequence control device for a self-closing door comprising a fixed wing and a moveable wing. Said moveable wing can be fixed by means of a control system which can be influenced by the fixed wing. The aim of the invention is to create an electric closing sequence control device which ensures a reliable door closing sequence. To this end, the fixed wing and the moveable wing are respectively provided with a displacement sensor for permanently determining the position of the same, and the positions determined are used to influence the locking mechanism.

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Titel: Elektrische SchließfolgeregelungTitle: Electric closing sequence control
Beschreibungdescription
Die Erfindung betrifft eine elektrische Schließfolgeregelung für eine selbstschließende, einen Stand- und einen Gangflügel umfassende Tür, wobei der Gangflügel mittels einer vom Standflügel beeinflussbaren Steuerung feststellbar ist.The invention relates to an electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and an active leaf, the active leaf being ascertainable by means of a control which can be influenced by the fixed leaf.
Zweiflügelige Türen der eingangs genannten Art überlappen einander im Mittelbereich, so dass der eine, einen Standflügel bildende Türflügel einen Anschlag für den anderen, den Gangflügel bildenden Türflügel aufweist, wobei zu deren dichtem Abschluss eine bestimmte Schließfolge erforderlich ist, wenn die Türflügel ordnungsgemäß geschlossen sein sollen. Zu diesem Zweck werden Schließfolgeregler eingesetzt, welche stets die für das vorgenannte ordnungsgemäße Schließen erforderliche Reihenfolge der Übergänge der beiden Türflügel in die Schließlage gewährleisten. Eine bestimmte Reihenfolge der Schließbewegung beider Türflügel ist auch deshalb notwendig, um den in der Regel mit einem Schloss versehenen Gangflügel erst dann in die Schließstellung gelangen zu lassen, wenn der den Türanschlag bildende, in der Regel das Schließblech oder dergleichen aufweisende Standflügel geschlossen ist.Double-leaf doors of the type mentioned overlap one another in the central region, so that one door leaf forming a passive leaf has a stop for the other door leaf forming the active leaf, a certain closing sequence being required for their tight closure if the door leaves are to be properly closed , For this purpose, closing sequence controllers are used, which always ensure the sequence of the transitions of the two door leaves into the closed position, which sequence is necessary for the aforementioned correct closing. A certain sequence of the closing movement of both door leaves is also necessary in order to only allow the active leaf, which is usually provided with a lock, to reach the closed position only when the passive leaf forming the door stop, which generally has the striking plate or the like, is closed.
Grundsätzlich lassen sich zwei Prinzipien unterscheiden, nach denen eine Schließfolgeregelung erfolgt: Bei der ersten Variante werden Stand- und Gangflügel durch eine elektrisch ansteuerbare Feststelleinrichtung in Offenstellung festgehalten. In der Schließphase wird die Feststelleinrichtung des Gangflügels entweder zeitverzögert zur Feststelleinrichtung des Standflügels oder nach Erreichen der Schließlage des Standflügels gelöst. Bei der zweiten Variante wird der Gangflügel durch eine elektrisch gesteuerte Feststelleinrichtung in einer bestimmten Öffnungsposition (z. B. 30° Öffnungswinkel) festgehalten, und die Arretierung wird erst freigegeben, wenn der Standflügel seine Schließlage erreicht hat. Die erste Variante eignet sich vorzugsweise für Betriebsfälle, in denen der Gangflügel oder Gang- und Standflügel im Normalbetrieb ständig in geöffneter Stel- lung arretiert sein sollen, während sich die zweite Variante auch für Betriebsbedingungen eignet, bei denen der Standflügel oder beide Türflügel im Normalbetrieb geschlossen sind.Basically, two principles can be distinguished according to which the closing sequence is regulated: In the first variant, the active and active leaves are held in the open position by an electrically controllable locking device. In the closing phase, the locking device of the active leaf is released either with a time delay to the locking device of the passive leaf or after the closed position of the passive leaf has been reached. In the second variant, the active leaf is moved in an open position (e.g. by an electrically controlled locking device). 30 ° opening angle), and the lock is only released when the passive leaf has reached its closed position. The first variant is particularly suitable for operating cases in which the active leaf or active and passive leaf should be locked in the open position in normal operation, while the second variant is also suitable for operating conditions in which the passive leaf or both door leaves are closed in normal operation are.
Aus der DE 196 17 153 A1 ist eine elektrische Schließfolgeregelung für eine selbstschließende, einen Stand- und einen Gangflügel umfassende Tür bekannt. Dort wird entsprechend den vorstehend genannten beiden Prinzipien jeweils nur die Schließstellung bzw. Offenstellung des Standflügels erfasst, während die Position des Gangflügels unberücksichtigt bleibt. Darüber hinaus werden auch nur die beiden Extremstellungen "auf und "zu" des Standflügels erfasst, so dass Zwischenstellungen nicht berück- sichtigt werden. Dies kann unter ungünstigen Bedingungen, insbesondere wenn z. B. der Standflügel nur halb geöffnet worden ist und dann die Tür geschlossen werden soll, zu einer nicht korrekten Schließfolge führen.From DE 196 17 153 A1 an electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and an active leaf is known. According to the two principles mentioned above, only the closed position and the open position of the passive leaf are recorded, while the position of the active leaf is not taken into account. In addition, only the two extreme positions "open and closed" of the passive leaf are recorded so that intermediate positions are not taken into account, which can happen under unfavorable conditions, especially if, for example, the passive leaf has only been opened halfway and then the door should be closed lead to an incorrect closing sequence.
Die Aufgabe der vorliegenden Erfindung besteht deshalb darin, die vorstehend genannten Nachteile zu beseitigen und eine elektrische Schließ- folgeregelung zu schaffen, die eine gesicherte Schließfolge einer Tür gewährleistet.The object of the present invention is therefore to eliminate the disadvantages mentioned above and to provide an electrical closing sequence control which ensures a secure closing sequence of a door.
Die Lösung dieser Aufgabe erfolgt durch die Merkmale des Anspruches 1.This object is achieved by the features of claim 1.
Erfindungsgemäß ist die elektrische Schließfolgeregelung für eine selbstschließende, einen Stand- und einen Gangflügel umfassende Tür, bei welcher der Gangflügel mittels einer vom Standflügel beeinflussbaren Steuerung feststellbar ist, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass am Standflügel und am Gangflügel je ein Weggeber angeordnet ist, der permanent die Position von Stand- und Gangflügel ermittelt und dass die ermittelten Positionen zur Beeinflussung des Sperrmechanismus dienen.According to the invention, the electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and an active leaf, in which the active leaf can be ascertained by means of a control that can be influenced by the fixed leaf, characterized in that a displacement sensor is arranged on the fixed leaf and on the active leaf, which permanently controls the Position of fixed and active leaf determined and that the determined positions serve to influence the locking mechanism.
Infolge dieser Ausgestaltung wird die Stellung von Stand- und Gangflügel permanent überwacht, so dass auch alle Zwischenstellungen von Stand- bzw. Gangflügel registriert und zur Steuerung einer korrekten Schließfolge herangezogen werden können. Somit ist gewährleistet, dass auch unter ungünstigen Bedingungen der Standflügel immer vor dem Gangflügel in seine Schließlage kommt.As a result of this configuration, the position of the passive leaf and active leaf is continuously monitored, so that all intermediate positions of the fixed leaf or active leaf can also be registered and used to control a correct closing sequence. This ensures that the passive leaf always comes into its closed position before the active leaf even under unfavorable conditions.
Die Unteransprüche haben vorteilhafte Weiterbildungen der Erfindung zum Inhalt.The dependent claims contain advantageous developments of the invention.
Weitere Einzelheiten, Merkmale und Vorteile der Erfindung ergeben sich aus nachfolgender Beschreibung eines bevorzugten Ausführungsbeispieles.Further details, features and advantages of the invention result from the following description of a preferred exemplary embodiment.
Die Tür, bei welcher die erfindungsgemäße Schließfolgeregelung einge- setzt wird, besteht aus einem Standflügel und einem Gangflügel, die über einen Motor und ein Getriebe angetrieben sowie über entsprechende Versorgungsleitungen mit Energie versorgt werden. Die hierzu erforderlichen Elemente und Einzelteile sind hinlänglich bekannt und werden deshalb nicht näher erläutert. Es wird im folgenden lediglich die elektrische Schließfolgeregelung erläutert.The door, in which the closing sequence control according to the invention is used, consists of a fixed leaf and an active leaf which are driven by a motor and a transmission and are supplied with energy via corresponding supply lines. The elements and individual parts required for this are well known and are therefore not explained in detail. Only the electrical closing sequence control is explained below.
Die erfindungsgemäße elektrische Schließfolgeregelung beruht auf dem Prinzip der Positionserkennung. Der Standflügel ermittelt über einen an dem Motor, dem Getriebe oder einen direkt an der Tür angebrachten absoluten oder inkrementalen Weggeber die aktuelle Winkelposition des Standflügels. Die jeweils ermittelte aktuelle Winkelposition wird einer Steuerung zugeführt, welche im Schließzyklus den Gangflügel über einen konstanten Winkelversatz nachführt. Ebenso ermittelt der Gangflügel über einen an dem Motor, dem Getriebe oder einen direkt an der Tür angebrachten absoluten oder inkrementalen Weggeber die aktuelle Winkelposition des Gangflügels und übermittelt die jeweils ermittelte aktuelle Winkelposition an eine Steuerung, welche im Öffnungszyklus den Standflügel über einen konstanten Winkelversatz nachführt.The electrical closing sequence control according to the invention is based on the principle of position detection. The passive leaf determines the current angular position of the passive leaf via an absolute or incremental displacement sensor attached to the motor, the gearbox or directly on the door. The current angular position determined in each case is fed to a controller which tracks the active leaf in the closing cycle by means of a constant angular offset. Likewise, the active leaf determines the current angular position of the active leaf via an absolute or incremental displacement sensor attached to the motor, the gearbox or directly on the door, and transmits the current determined angular position to a controller, which tracks the passive leaf in the opening cycle via a constant angular offset.
Der hier beschriebene Weggeber kann beliebiger Art sein.The path encoder described here can be of any type.
Die Ermittlung der jeweiligen Flügelpositionen erfolgt während des elektrischen Betriebes der Stand- und Gangflügel permanent über je einen der vorstehend beschriebenen Weggeber, also auch während der Ruhephasen in den Offen- und Zu-Positionen.The determination of the respective sash positions is carried out permanently during the electrical operation of the fixed and active sashes via one of the travel sensors described above, that is also during the rest phases in the open and closed positions.
Wenn beispielsweise beide Flügel in der Offen-Position stehen und der Standflügel in Richtung auf die Zu-Position bewegt wird, bleibt der Gangflügel so lange stehen, bis der Standflügel die Position POS_AUF_ STAND-WINKELVERSATZ erreicht hat. Dann wird der Steuerung von dem Weggeber ein entsprechendes Signal übermittelt und der Gangflügel startet mit derselben Fahrkurve wie der Standflügel. Der Gangflügel folgt also dem Standflügel mit einem konstanten Winkelversatz.For example, if both wings are in the open position and the passive wing is moved towards the closed position, the active wing remains stationary until the passive wing has reached the POS_AUF_ STAND-ANGLEVERSATZ position. A corresponding signal is then transmitted to the control from the travel sensor and the active leaf starts with the same driving curve as the fixed leaf. The active leaf follows the passive leaf with a constant angular offset.
Befinden sich beide Türen in der Zu-Position, startet der Standflügel in Richtung auf seine Offen-Stellung, sobald der Gangflügel die Position POS_ZU_GANG-WINKELVERSATZ erreicht hat. In diesem Fall folgt der Standflügel dem Gangflügel mit derselben Fahrkurve mit einem konstanten Winkelversatz.If both doors are in the closed position, the passive leaf starts moving towards its open position as soon as the active leaf has reached the POS_ZU_GANG-WINKELVERSATZ position. In this case, the passive leaf follows the active leaf with the same driving curve with a constant angular offset.
Um dies zu erreichen, stehen die Steuerungen der beiden Flügel über ei- nen Datenaustausch miteinander in Verbindung. Dieser wird zweckmäßigerweise als serielle Datenkommunikation ausgelegt, über welche die Türwinkel permanent ausgetauscht werden. So weiß jede Steuerung, in welcher Position sich der jeweils andere Türflügel befindet.In order to achieve this, the controls of the two wings are connected to each other via a data exchange. This is expediently designed as serial data communication via which the Door angles are permanently replaced. This means that each control unit knows the position of the other door leaf.
Anstatt einer seriellen Datenkommunikation sind auch andere Arten des Datenaustausches denkbar, z. B. analog über ein Spannungs- oder Stromsignal, das die jeweils aktuelle Türflügelposition repräsentiert.Instead of serial data communication, other types of data exchange are also conceivable, e.g. B. analog via a voltage or current signal that represents the current door leaf position.
Soll z. B. bei nur geringer Begehungsfrequenz lediglich ein Türflügel geöffnet bzw. geschlossen werden, so kann über einen Programmschalter oder ein anderes geeignetes Instrument der Standflügel abgeschaltet werden.Should z. B. only a door leaf can be opened or closed with only a low frequency of use, the fixed leaf can be switched off via a program switch or another suitable instrument.
Die vorstehende Beschreibung des Ausführungsbeispieles gemäß der vorliegenden Erfindung dient nicht zum Zwecke der Beschränkung der Erfindung. Im Rahmen der Erfindung sind verschiedene Änderungen und Modifikationen möglich, ohne den Umfang der Erfindung sowie ihrer Äquivalente zu verlassen. The above description of the exemplary embodiment according to the present invention is not intended to limit the invention. Various changes and modifications are possible within the scope of the invention without leaving the scope of the invention and its equivalents.

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1. Elektrische Schließfolgeregelung für eine selbstschließende, einen Stand- und einen Gangflügel umfassende Tür, wobei der Gangflügel mittels einer vom Standflügel beeinflussbaren Steuerung fest- stellbar ist, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass am Standflügel und am1. Electrical closing sequence control for a self-closing door comprising a fixed leaf and a active leaf, the active leaf being determinable by means of a control which can be influenced by the fixed leaf, characterized in that on the fixed leaf and on the
Gangflügel je ein Weggeber angeordnet ist, der permanent die Position von Stand- und Gangflügel ermittelt und dass die ermittelten Positionen zur Beeinflussung des Sperrmechanismus dienen.Active leaf a displacement sensor is arranged, which permanently determines the position of fixed and active leaf and that the determined positions serve to influence the locking mechanism.
2. Elektrische Schließfolgeregelung nach Anspruch 1 , dadurch ge- kennzeichnet, dass der Weggeber aus einem absoluten oder in- krementalen Weggeber besteht.2. Electrical closing sequence control according to claim 1, characterized in that the position sensor consists of an absolute or incremental position sensor.
3. Elektrische Schließfolgeregelung nach Anspruch 1 oder 2, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass der Weggeber an einem Motor, einem Getriebe oder direkt an der Tür angeordnet ist.3. Electrical closing sequence control according to claim 1 or 2, characterized in that the displacement sensor is arranged on a motor, a transmission or directly on the door.
4. Elektrische Schließfolgeregelung nach einem der vorhergehenden Ansprüche, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Weggeber ihre Signale an eine Steuerung übermitteln, welche dafür sorgt, dass der Standflügel immer vor dem Gangflügel in Schließlage kommt. 4. Electrical closing sequence control according to one of the preceding claims, characterized in that the displacement transmitters transmit their signals to a control which ensures that the passive leaf always comes into the closed position before the active leaf.
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