WO1995008700A1 - Verfahren und vorrichtung zur darstellung des betriebszustandes einer turbine während eines anfahrvorgangs - Google Patents
Verfahren und vorrichtung zur darstellung des betriebszustandes einer turbine während eines anfahrvorgangs Download PDFInfo
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- WO1995008700A1 WO1995008700A1 PCT/DE1994/001039 DE9401039W WO9508700A1 WO 1995008700 A1 WO1995008700 A1 WO 1995008700A1 DE 9401039 W DE9401039 W DE 9401039W WO 9508700 A1 WO9508700 A1 WO 9508700A1
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F01—MACHINES OR ENGINES IN GENERAL; ENGINE PLANTS IN GENERAL; STEAM ENGINES
- F01D—NON-POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT MACHINES OR ENGINES, e.g. STEAM TURBINES
- F01D19/00—Starting of machines or engines; Regulating, controlling, or safety means in connection therewith
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- the invention relates to a method for representing the operating state of a turbine during a starting process. It further relates to an apparatus for performing the method.
- the starting process of a turbine is usually composed of different speed increase and waiting times.
- the increase in speed over time until the operating speed is reached depends in particular on turbine-specific parameters and on the thermal condition of the turbine.
- the starting process is set manually by the operating personnel chronologically monitoring the speed increase and waiting times specified by the turbine manufacturer.
- the specified waiting times are shortened or lengthened and the turbine is subjected to an unnecessary load or the starting process is lengthened unnecessarily.
- the invention is therefore based on the object of specifying a method with which a suitable representation of the operating state of the turbine during the starting process is possible.
- this object is achieved according to the invention in that the time profile of the turbine speed is mapped in addition to a reference profile, which is based on turbine-specific parameters and operationally relevant parameters Parameters are determined, a starting characteristic derived from the turbine-specific parameters being determined as a reference course, which is determined on the basis of the operationally relevant parameters from a number of stored starting characteristics.
- the reference curve represents the functional dependence of the temporal change in the turbine speed on the turbine-specific parameters and the operationally relevant parameters derived from measured values.
- Each starting characteristic is expediently characterized by a value for the downtime of the turbine and by a value for the turbine temperature. Therefore, the turbine temperature and the downtime of the turbine are advantageously recorded as operationally relevant parameters.
- the downtime is derived from the turbine speed by recording the time that has passed since the turbine has come to a standstill or has come to an approximate standstill.
- process- or system-related parameters are specified manually or by means of a logic.
- critical values of a unit driven by the turbine e.g. of an air compressor, safely avoided.
- the time curve of the turbine speed shown is expediently stored at the same time.
- the storage process lies between a start signal and a stop signal which is emitted when the turbine reaches an idling or operating speed.
- the object is achieved according to the invention by a display device which is connected to a first memory for generating a turbine-specific Fish characteristics and from operationally relevant parameters determined temporal reference curve of the turbine speed and with a second memory for generating the current temporal curve of the turbine speed.
- a memory is provided for a number of start-up characteristic curves which characterize the turbine-specific parameters, each of which has an identifier for a specific idle time and a specific turbine temperature.
- the figure shows the turbine 2 on a shaft 4, via which an assembly 6, e.g. a generator or an air compressor is driven.
- a working medium AM is supplied to the turbine 2 via a valve 8, which is wholly or partially expanded in the turbine and thereby drives the turbine 2.
- the working medium AM flows out of the turbine 2 via an outflow line 10.
- the turbine 2 is a steam or gas turbine.
- a first sensor 12 for measuring the turbine speed n and a second sensor 14 for measuring the turbine temperature T are provided to detect operational parameters of the turbine 2.
- the sensors 12 and 14 each emit a signal line 16 or 18, via which signals corresponding to the turbine speed n and the turbine temperature T are fed to a device 20, shown in broken lines, for processing and processing the measured values.
- the temperature T is expediently measured on the turbine housing.
- the device 20 comprises a converter 22 connected to the signal line 16 and a converter 24 connected to the signal line 18 Limit value monitoring of the turbine speed n forms a signal k s which is characteristic of the rotating state of the turbine 2. This indicates whether the turbine 2 is at a standstill or approximately at a standstill.
- the signal k s is forwarded to a time module 26 connected downstream of the converter 22. When the signal k s arrives, the time module 26 is started. This forms a time factor k z from the signal k s , which informs a first arithmetic unit 28 of the period of time that has passed since the standstill signal k s arrived.
- the position of a quick-closing valve of the actuator 8 is additionally queried in the form of a feedback signal s. If the actuator 8 is closed, there is a corresponding feedback s to the computing unit 28. If the converter 22 simultaneously detects that the turbine speed n falls below the limit value and generates a signal k ⁇ , the time factor k z is used to determine the load ⁇ beginning of the standstill period, at which the turbine speed n is zero.
- the temperature factor k> is forwarded to the computing unit 28.
- the computing unit 28 is supplied with an adjustable process factor k p via an operating element 30 which is derived from the process criteria.
- the arithmetic unit 28 determines a reference course RV for a starting process of the turbine 2 from the factors kr, k z and k p and from turbine-specific parameters stored in a memory 32.
- the memory 32 contains a number of starting characteristics A n , of which each starting characteristic curve A n is provided with an identifier for a downtime t n and a turbine temperature T n .
- Some typical starting characteristic curves A n with their time-dependent setpoint or reference speed curve are illustrated in a diagram 33.
- Each starting curve A n are turbine-specific
- the start-up characteristic line A n with the longer waiting times w and / or flatter speed increase gradient m is used as the reference curve RV certainly.
- the process factor k p also takes into account the case where the unit 6 driven by the turbine 2 requires longer waiting times w or flatter speed increase gradients m compared to the turbine 2. In this case, too, a starting characteristic curve A n _ ⁇ which takes into account the turbine 2 alone, the next flatter starting characteristic curve A n is determined. This avoids unnecessary loads on the turbine 2 and / or the unit 6.
- the reference curve RV determined by means of the factors kr, k z and k p is forwarded via a signal line 34 to a display device 36 and is shown there in a coordinate field 38.
- the abscissa forms the time axis denoted by t and the ordinate the speed axis denoted by n.
- the signal k s and the speed n in a converter 39 generates a start signal k a .
- This is forwarded to a second computing unit 40.
- a signal from a turbine controller (not shown) can also be used to form the start signal k a .
- the starting signal k a is used in the computing unit
- the memory content of the computing units 28 and 40 can be called up in curve form RV, AV via the display device 36. Any start-up process of the turbine 2 can thus be called up at any time by displaying the reference course RV and the current time course AV, so that a direct comparison between the actual speed course AV is made both during a current start-up process and during a later check and the reference course RV is possible during the startup process of the turbine 2.
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Priority Applications (5)
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| JP50947995A JP3784406B2 (ja) | 1993-09-21 | 1994-09-09 | 始動過程中のタービンの作動状態を表示する方法および装置 |
| AU76507/94A AU679563B2 (en) | 1993-09-21 | 1994-09-09 | Process and device for imaging the operational condition of a turbine during the starting process |
| EP94926772A EP0721541B1 (de) | 1993-09-21 | 1994-09-09 | Verfahren und vorrichtung zur darstellung des betriebszustandes einer turbine während eines anfahrvorgangs |
| DE59405807T DE59405807D1 (de) | 1993-09-21 | 1994-09-09 | Verfahren und vorrichtung zur darstellung des betriebszustandes einer turbine während eines anfahrvorgangs |
| CA002172254A CA2172254C (en) | 1993-09-21 | 1994-09-09 | Process and device for imaging the operational condition of a turbine during the starting process |
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| DEP4332078.3 | 1993-09-21 | ||
| DE4332078A DE4332078A1 (de) | 1993-09-21 | 1993-09-21 | Verfahren und Vorrichtung zur Darstellung des Betriebszustandes einer Turbine während eines Anfahrvorgangs |
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| WO1995008700A1 true WO1995008700A1 (de) | 1995-03-30 |
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| US (1) | US5807069A (enExample) |
| EP (1) | EP0721541B1 (enExample) |
| JP (1) | JP3784406B2 (enExample) |
| KR (1) | KR100363072B1 (enExample) |
| CN (1) | CN1057815C (enExample) |
| AT (1) | ATE165423T1 (enExample) |
| AU (1) | AU679563B2 (enExample) |
| CA (1) | CA2172254C (enExample) |
| DE (2) | DE4332078A1 (enExample) |
| ES (1) | ES2115972T3 (enExample) |
| TW (1) | TW264520B (enExample) |
| WO (1) | WO1995008700A1 (enExample) |
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| ATE165423T1 (de) | 1998-05-15 |
| ES2115972T3 (es) | 1998-07-01 |
| AU7650794A (en) | 1995-04-10 |
| CN1057815C (zh) | 2000-10-25 |
| KR100363072B1 (ko) | 2003-03-10 |
| US5807069A (en) | 1998-09-15 |
| EP0721541B1 (de) | 1998-04-22 |
| KR960705124A (ko) | 1996-10-09 |
| CA2172254C (en) | 2005-09-06 |
| TW264520B (enExample) | 1995-12-01 |
| EP0721541A1 (de) | 1996-07-17 |
| JPH09506945A (ja) | 1997-07-08 |
| AU679563B2 (en) | 1997-07-03 |
| DE59405807D1 (de) | 1998-05-28 |
| JP3784406B2 (ja) | 2006-06-14 |
| CN1131450A (zh) | 1996-09-18 |
| DE4332078A1 (de) | 1995-03-30 |
| CA2172254A1 (en) | 1995-03-30 |
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