EP2385200B1 - Elément de ferrure pour la fixation dans une rainure de ferrure en forme de C - Google Patents

Elément de ferrure pour la fixation dans une rainure de ferrure en forme de C Download PDF

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EP2385200B1
EP2385200B1 EP11164535.4A EP11164535A EP2385200B1 EP 2385200 B1 EP2385200 B1 EP 2385200B1 EP 11164535 A EP11164535 A EP 11164535A EP 2385200 B1 EP2385200 B1 EP 2385200B1
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    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05D—HINGES OR SUSPENSION DEVICES FOR DOORS, WINDOWS OR WINGS
    • E05D5/00—Construction of single parts, e.g. the parts for attachment
    • E05D5/02—Parts for attachment, e.g. flaps
    • E05D5/0215—Parts for attachment, e.g. flaps for attachment to profile members or the like
    • E05D5/0223—Parts for attachment, e.g. flaps for attachment to profile members or the like with parts, e.g. screws, extending through the profile wall or engaging profile grooves
    • E05D5/0238—Parts for attachment, e.g. flaps for attachment to profile members or the like with parts, e.g. screws, extending through the profile wall or engaging profile grooves with parts engaging profile grooves
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05C—BOLTS OR FASTENING DEVICES FOR WINGS, SPECIALLY FOR DOORS OR WINDOWS
    • E05C9/00—Arrangements of simultaneously actuated bolts or other securing devices at well-separated positions on the same wing
    • E05C9/18—Details of fastening means or of fixed retaining means for the ends of bars
    • E05C9/1808—Keepers
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05B—LOCKS; ACCESSORIES THEREFOR; HANDCUFFS
    • E05B17/00—Accessories in connection with locks
    • E05B17/0004—Lock assembling or manufacturing
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2600/00—Mounting or coupling arrangements for elements provided for in this subclass
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2600/00—Mounting or coupling arrangements for elements provided for in this subclass
    • E05Y2600/50—Mounting methods; Positioning
    • E05Y2600/52—Toolless
    • E05Y2600/528—Hooking, e.g. using bayonets; Locking
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2600/00—Mounting or coupling arrangements for elements provided for in this subclass
    • E05Y2600/60—Mounting or coupling members; Accessories therefor
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2600/00—Mounting or coupling arrangements for elements provided for in this subclass
    • E05Y2600/60—Mounting or coupling members; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2600/626—Plates or brackets
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2600/00—Mounting or coupling arrangements for elements provided for in this subclass
    • E05Y2600/60—Mounting or coupling members; Accessories therefor
    • E05Y2600/632—Screws
    • E—FIXED CONSTRUCTIONS
    • E05—LOCKS; KEYS; WINDOW OR DOOR FITTINGS; SAFES
    • E05Y—INDEXING SCHEME ASSOCIATED WITH SUBCLASSES E05D AND E05F, RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, ELECTRIC CONTROL, POWER SUPPLY, POWER SIGNAL OR TRANSMISSION, USER INTERFACES, MOUNTING OR COUPLING, DETAILS, ACCESSORIES, AUXILIARY OPERATIONS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, APPLICATION THEREOF
    • E05Y2800/00—Details, accessories and auxiliary operations not otherwise provided for
    • E05Y2800/40—Physical or chemical protection

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  • the invention relates to a fitting for attachment to a fitting part of a window, a door or the like, which has at its groove edges thereof projecting webs.
  • fitting part grooves are often used, which have protruding webs from their groove sides.
  • Such fitting part grooves are often referred to as undercut or C-shaped grooves.
  • For fastening a fitting part to such a fitting part groove it is known to either thread a fitting part, which has corresponding lateral recesses, at one end of the fitting part groove and to move it along the fitting part groove into the correct position.
  • the DE 44 05 348 A1 deals with the attachment of fittings to furniture parts, wherein the attachment of the fitting parts by means of one or more sliding blocks, which are introduced and secured in associated grooves in the furniture part.
  • a hinge which can be attached via a sliding block, which can be clamped in a fitting part, to a fitting part.
  • the DE 10 2005 049 634 A1 discloses a driver for connecting a window to a cable window of a motor vehicle door.
  • the driver can be rotated by 90 ° for attachment of a fitting part, so that a nutgrundbehgewandter section comes to rest under the webs of the fitting part.
  • the FR 2 472 100 A1 discloses to attach a fitting part to a fitting part groove, which is a sliding block, which is connected via a screw to the fitting part, twisted in the fitting part and is then tightened via the screw to the fitting part.
  • Object of the present invention is to provide a fitting with a reverse rotation, which can be mounted at any point of the fitting part, without that it must be threaded in the fitting part at one end or an opening in the fitting part must be created artificially to use the fitting part to be able to.
  • the lateral recess can be formed grooved or groove-like. Characterized in that the fitting part is mounted by means of a rotary movement, it can be placed in a relation to the position of use twisted position on the fitting part and then rotated, so that at least one of the webs passes into a lateral recess of the fitting part. It is thus not necessary to thread the fitting part at one end of the fitting part groove or to mill an opening in the fitting part groove, through which the fitting part can be inserted. To prevent loosening of the fitting part of the fitting part, a reverse rotation is erfindugsloom provided. It can be provided that the reverse rotation is designed as a threaded pin.
  • the fitting part can also be clamped in the fitting part.
  • Different orientations of the threaded pin are conceivable.
  • the threaded pin can be guided obliquely, so that its front end is supported on a groove flank. It is also conceivable to guide the threaded pin perpendicular to the Falz donorssraum so that it is supported on the groove base and the fitting part is pressed with areas from below against the webs. It is particularly preferred if at least two lateral recesses are provided. As a result, a more reliable fixing of the fitting part to the fitting part groove is possible.
  • the at least two lateral recesses are provided on two opposite sides of the fitting part.
  • two lateral recesses are arranged diagonally opposite each other.
  • the two diagonally opposite recesses may preferably in the Be provided end portions of the fitting part.
  • the fitting part has a groove base side portion whose width is smaller, at least in one area than the distance between the webs of the groove. This section can thus between the webs be guided through. After a rotation of the fitting part of this nutground worne section abut at least with areas of the groove base side to one or more webs of the fitting part and thus prevent the fitting part can be lifted from the fitting part.
  • the fitting part has a nutgrundabgewandten section whose width is greater, at least in one area than the distance between the webs of the groove.
  • this nutgrundabgewandte section can rest on top of the webs and thus prevent the fitting moves too far in the direction of groove bottom.
  • the height position of the fitting part with respect to the fitting part groove can be determined by the nut groundabgewandten section.
  • the nutgroundabgewandte and the nutground workede section according to the invention each have mutually parallel edges, wherein the edges of the nut groundabgewandten section and the edges of the groove base portion are aligned obliquely to each other.
  • the fitting part can be mounted particularly easily, wherein in the assembled state the webs of the fitting part groove are arranged between regions of the groove base facing away from the section and the nutground stoolen portion.
  • the fitting has a mounted in the fitting part above the webs and a portion disposed below the webs and the sections are integrally formed with each other. This means that the fitting part has no parts which are rotatable relative to each other to effect assembly and fixing of the fitting.
  • the fitting is a one-piece, solid component.
  • the fitting part has a coupling point for coupling with a further, in particular movable, fitting part.
  • the fitting can be coupled by this measure with a drive rod without the drive rod has to be removed for this purpose.
  • a functional element such as a locking pin
  • a locking pin can be easily retrofitted with built-in drive rod.
  • a hole can be punched on the drive rod, the fitting part in the region of the hole of the drive rod, as described above, be mounted by means of screwing and then the coupling point of the fitting part are connected to the drive rod by a connecting element, e.g. a rivet, a screw or a spring pin is inserted.
  • the connecting elements can serve as reverse rotation.
  • twisting of the mounted fitting should be prevented in any case, so it does not inadvertently released from the fitting part.
  • a shift along the fitting part groove may well be desirable, for example in the case of turn restrictors or drives. If the fitting part is used as a closing piece, it should also be secured against displacement in the fitting part groove.
  • FIGS. 1a, 1b, 1c show different perspective views of a first fitting part 10, which is provided for attachment to a fitting part, the groove flanks thereof has projecting webs.
  • the fitting 10 has groove-shaped or groove-shaped lateral recesses 11, 12.
  • the lateral recesses 11, 12 are dimensioned in height so that in them a web of a fitting part can be added. It can be seen that the lateral recesses 11, 12 are arranged on opposite sides and moreover diagonally opposite one another.
  • the fitting 10 has a nutground solution 13 whose width is less than the distance between the webs of the groove.
  • the width of the nutground patenten portion 13 is less than the width of a nutgroundabgewandten portion 14th
  • the nutground workede section 13 has parallel edges 15, 16. Likewise, the nut groundabgewandte section 14 parallel edges 17, 18. However, the edges 15, 16 are not parallel to the edges 17, 18. They are therefore oriented at an angle to each other.
  • the nutground workede section 13 has slopes 19, 20, which facilitate assembly.
  • the fitting part 10 is aligned so that the edges 15, 16 are substantially parallel to the webs of the groove flanks. Since the width of the portion 13 is smaller than the distance between the webs, this portion can be inserted between the webs in the fitting part. Characterized in that the nutgrundabgewandte portion 14 is wider, the areas (bearing surfaces) 21, 22 are on the fitting part and prevent the fitting part 10 is inserted too far in the fitting part. The areas 21, 22 thus represent attacks.
  • the fitting part 10 can be rotated about an axis of rotation perpendicular to the groove base of the fitting part groove or perpendicular to the longitudinal direction of the fitting part 10 so that the edges 17, 18 are aligned substantially parallel to the webs of the fitting part.
  • a reverse rotation lock 23 is provided in the form of a threaded pin.
  • the threaded pin extends obliquely to a longitudinal axis of the fitting part 10 and can be brought with its front end 24 into abutment against a groove wall.
  • FIGS. 1a to 1c it can be seen that the sections 13, 14 are integrally connected to each other and are not movable relative to each other.
  • the fitting 10 is shown in a mounted on a fitting part 30 position.
  • the fitting part groove 30 has a groove bottom 31 and webs 32, 33 at the same height projecting webs 34, 35. It can be seen that the web 34 lies in the lateral recess 11. The web 34 is thus engaged behind by the nutground districten section 13.
  • the Nutgroundabgewandte section 14 is on the fitting part 30 and the webs 34, 35 on. The distance of the webs 34, 35, so the clear width of the groove 30 is greater than the distance between the edges 15, 16 of the groove base portion 13 and less than the distance between the edges 17, 18 of the nut groundabgewandten section.
  • FIG. 3 is a sectional view through the fitting part 30 shown.
  • the reverse rotation lock 23 engages in the form of the threaded pin under the web 34 and thus prevents turning back of the fitting part 10.
  • the web 35 lies in the lateral recess 12.
  • the fitting part 10 has one above the webs 34, 35 and a below the webs 34, 35 arranged portion and the portions are integrally formed with each other.
  • the FIG. 4 shows a view from below of the fitting 10 and in particular a sectional view through the walls 37, 38 of the Betschteilnut 30.
  • the fitting 10 with two diagonally opposite portions 39, 40 abuts the webs 34, 35 from below ,
  • FIG. 5 an alternative embodiment of a fitting 40 is shown.
  • the fitting 40 carries a functional element 41 in the form of a locking pin.
  • the nutground workede section 42 corresponds to Essentially the configuration of the nutground paragraphen portion 13 of the fitting 10, which is why will not be discussed in detail.
  • the fitting 40 also has a trained as a threaded anti-rotation 43. However, the reverse rotation lock 43 is aligned perpendicular to the fold circumferential direction, which is defined by the extension direction of the groove 30.
  • the anti-rotation lock 43 thus does not engage under the web 34 but pushes against the groove bottom 31.
  • the fitting part 40 is raised and the groove-base section 13 is pressed against the webs 34, 35 from below.
  • the reverse rotation lock 43 By slightly loosening the reverse rotation lock 43, the fitting 40 can be moved along the Betschteilnut 30 and then set by re-screwing the reverse lock 43 in any position along the Betschteilnut 30.
  • the reverse rotation lock 43 can only be screwed in so far that the reverse rotation lock 43 ends above the web 34 or a gap to the web 34 remains.
  • the reverse rotation lock 43 can be screwed in, so that it rests laterally on the web 34 and a turning back of the fitting part 40 is prevented. If the reverse rotation lock 43 is not supported on the groove base 31, there is no jamming and a displacement along the groove remains possible.
  • FIG. 7 a further embodiment of a fitting part 50 is shown, which is slightly prolonged relative to the fitting part 40 and has a coupling point 51.
  • the nut ground workede section is again designed similar to the groove base portion 13 of the fitting 10.
  • the fitting 50 in turn has a locking pin 41.
  • the coupling point 51 is used for coupling with a drive rod 52.
  • a drive rod 52 For this purpose, an opening in the form of a hole was introduced into the drive rod 52.
  • the fitting 50 was inserted by means of rotation about an axis of rotation which is perpendicular to the Falz donorsscardi, in the fitting part 30 and then a screw 53 was screwed in the region of the coupling point 51 and connected to the drive rod 52.
  • a locking pin 41 could be connected to the drive rod 52 in a simple manner via the fitting part 50 without the drive rod 52 having to be removed or an opening having to be made in the fitting part groove 30.
  • FIG. 9 shows a view from below. Corresponding components were provided with corresponding reference numerals.
  • a sectional view in the region of the coupling point 51 is in the FIG. 10 shown.

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  1. Élément de ferrure (10, 40, 50) pour la fixation (30) à une rainure d'élément de ferrure d'une fenêtre, d'une porte ou analogue qui présente des nervures (34, 35) faisant saillie sur ses flancs de rainure (32, 33), l'élément de ferrure (10, 40, 50) pouvant être monté sur la rainure d'élément de ferrure (30) au moyen d'un mouvement de rotation autour d'un axe de rotation perpendiculaire à la direction périphérique de la feuillure et présentant au moins un évidement latéral (11, 12) destiné à recevoir une des nervures (34, 35) dans une position montée, l'élément de ferrure (10, 40, 50) présentant, dans la position montée sur la rainure d'élément de ferrure (30), une partie éloignée du fond de rainure (14), disposée au-dessus des nervures (34, 35) et une partie côté fond de rainure (13), disposée en dessous des nervures (34, 35), et les parties (13, 14) étant formées d'une seule pièce l'une avec l'autre, les parties (13, 14) éloignée du fond de rainure et côté fond de rainure présentant chacune des bords (15, 16, 17, 18) s'étendant parallèlement l'un à l'autre, les bords (17, 18) de la partie éloignée du fond de rainure (14) et les bords (15, 16) de la partie côté fond de rainure (13) étant orientés obliquement l'un par rapport à l'autre, caractérisé en ce qu'il est prévu une protection anti-rotation (23, 43) qui empêche dans tous les cas l'élément de ferrure monté de tourner.
  2. Élément de ferrure selon la revendication 1, caractérisé en ce qu'au moins deux évidements latéraux (11, 12) sont prévus.
  3. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que deux évidements latéraux (11, 12) sont disposés en diagonale l'un en face de l'autre.
  4. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que la largeur de la partie côté fond de rainure (13) est inférieure à la distance entre les nervures (34, 35) de la rainure (30) au moins dans une zone.
  5. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que la largeur de la partie éloignée du fond de rainure (14) est supérieure à la distance entre les nervures (34, 35) de la rainure (30) au moins dans une zone.
  6. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que la protection anti-rotation (23, 43) est réalisée sous la forme d'une tige filetée.
  7. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que l'élément de ferrure (50) présente un emplacement d'accouplement (51) pour l'accouplement avec un autre élément de ferrure.
  8. Élément de ferrure selon l'une des revendications précédentes, caractérisé en ce que l'élément de ferrure présente un élément fonctionnel (41).
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