EP1688900A1 - Méthode pour la détermination de la position de dispositifs dans un système détecteur de dangers - Google Patents

Méthode pour la détermination de la position de dispositifs dans un système détecteur de dangers Download PDF

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EP1688900A1
EP1688900A1 EP05002480A EP05002480A EP1688900A1 EP 1688900 A1 EP1688900 A1 EP 1688900A1 EP 05002480 A EP05002480 A EP 05002480A EP 05002480 A EP05002480 A EP 05002480A EP 1688900 A1 EP1688900 A1 EP 1688900A1
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    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B25/00Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems
    • G08B25/01Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium
    • G08B25/04Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium using a single signalling line, e.g. in a closed loop
    • GPHYSICS
    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B25/00Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems
    • G08B25/01Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium
    • G08B25/04Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium using a single signalling line, e.g. in a closed loop
    • G08B25/045Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems characterised by the transmission medium using a single signalling line, e.g. in a closed loop with sensing devices and central station in a closed loop, e.g. McCullough loop
    • GPHYSICS
    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B25/00Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems
    • GPHYSICS
    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B25/00Alarm systems in which the location of the alarm condition is signalled to a central station, e.g. fire or police telegraphic systems
    • G08B25/003Address allocation methods and details
    • GPHYSICS
    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B26/00Alarm systems in which substations are interrogated in succession by a central station
    • GPHYSICS
    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08BSIGNALLING OR CALLING SYSTEMS; ORDER TELEGRAPHS; ALARM SYSTEMS
    • G08B26/00Alarm systems in which substations are interrogated in succession by a central station
    • G08B26/005Alarm systems in which substations are interrogated in succession by a central station with substations connected in series, e.g. cascade

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  • the present invention relates to a method for determining the position of a newly inserted device of a hazard detection system, whose devices have an insulator and are connected via a reporting line to a control center.
  • devices are, in particular, danger detectors, such as fire or gas detectors, but they can also be actuators, such as visual or audible alarms, relays, alarm displays, transmission devices for the transmission of alarms or the like.
  • danger detectors such as fire or gas detectors
  • actuators such as visual or audible alarms, relays, alarm displays, transmission devices for the transmission of alarms or the like.
  • a new detector is used on an operating line network, its position within the topology must be determined. This can be done by determining the entire topology by restarting the entire network, for example, by a special command to all detectors or de-energized switching the detection line. The detectors are then started sequentially, with a unique communication address being assigned to them. Such methods are known as chain synchronization or daisy-chain and have long been used. For example, see EP-A-0 042 501.
  • EP-A-0 458 878 a method for determining the configuration of detectors of a hazard detection system is described, in which the center must perform a variety of steps until the assignment of the communication address to the detectors, which takes a relatively long time. Determining the position of a newly installed detector by restarting the entire network is time-consuming and certainly not efficient, especially for larger networks.
  • EP-A-0 880 117 a method for the automatic localization of detectors is described in which the detectors are equipped with means for communication with adjacent detectors. To locate a detector, all detectors open their disconnectors and the detector to be located sends a corresponding message, which is only received by its neighbors. Then the disconnectors are closed and it is determined which detectors these neighbors are, which is a clear determination of the position of the to be located Detector allows. This method is relatively fast, but requires the equipment of the detectors with the said communication means.
  • the invention will now be a method of the type mentioned above, which allows a quick and easy localization of newly used devices and requires no additional equipment of the devices.
  • the stated object is achieved according to the invention in that the newly used device is interrogated several times from one side of the reporting line, the isolator of a device already known in topology being opened beforehand, thereby dividing the reporting line into two branches, and determining that in which of the branches is the newly inserted device, and that this process is continued until finding the exact position of the newly inserted device.
  • a first preferred embodiment of the method according to the invention is characterized in that first the isolator of a device arranged as possible in the middle of the reporting line is opened and subsequently determined from the selected end of the reporting line based on the accessibility of the newly inserted device, whether in the branch before or after the device with the isolator open.
  • a second preferred embodiment of the method according to the invention is characterized in that subsequently the isolator just opened and the insulator of a device arranged in the middle of the branch of the reporting line containing the newly inserted device are opened, and from the selected end of the device using the newly inserted device Detector line ago determines whether the newly inserted device before or after the device with the open insulator.
  • a third preferred embodiment of the method according to the invention is characterized in that the method of interval halving described is carried out until the exact position of the newly inserted device is found, which corresponds to (log 1 / n) / (in the case of a total of n detectors containing danger detector. log 1 ⁇ 2) steps, rounded up to the nearest natural number, which is the case. So with 30 detectors after 5 and 100 detectors after 7 steps, each of which lasts only in the order of a second. Thus, finding the exact position of the newly inserted device requires only a short time of a few seconds without any extra effort.
  • FIGS. 1 and 2 show a danger alarm system which consists of a central station Z, an annular signal line ML emanating from it and detectors M 1 to M 8 connected to the signal line ML.
  • the detector M 1 has the communication address 1, the detector M 2 the communication address 2, and so on.
  • Each of the detectors M 1 to M 8 essentially contains at least one sensor for a hazard parameter, such as smoke, temperature or a combustion gas, evaluation electronics (both not shown) and an insulator S 1 to S 8 .
  • detector M should not only be understood as a danger detector, but more generally as an addressable device used in a message line.
  • this can also be an actuator, such as an optical or acoustic alarm, a relay, an alarm display, a transmission device for the transmission of alarms or the like.
  • the detector M 8 with the communication address 8 is a newly inserted detector.
  • the detector M 8 is queried to determine its position several times by one, as shown by the upper end of the reporting line ML.
  • the isolator of a detector already known in topology is opened in advance.
  • you select a detector for this which is located as possible in the middle of the reporting line ML.
  • the newly used detector M 8 is not accessible because of the open insulator S 4 from the upper end of the signal line ML, so he must be in the branch after the detector M 4 . Now close the isolator S 4 of the detector M 4 and continues the process of halving the interval in the branch after the detector M 4 .
  • the insulator of a central detector of this branch as shown, the isolator S 6 of the detector M 6 is opened, and the information is obtained that the detector M 8 is located between the detectors M 4 and M 6 , ie one of the Detector M 5 or M 8 is.
  • the inventive method is not limited to an annular detection line ML of the type shown in Figs. 1 and 2, but can also be applied to so-called spur lines or branches. If, for example, the signaling line ML between two detectors would branch off a stub line containing a newly inserted detector, then one could use the method described to determine the location of the branch and then determine the position of the newly inserted detector with the same method on the stub line.

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DK05002480T DK1688900T3 (da) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Fremgangsmåde til bestemmelse af positionen af indretninger i et faredetekteringsanlæg
ES05002480T ES2287818T3 (es) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Procedimiento para la determinacion de la posicion de dispositivos de sistemas de deteccion de peligros.
EP05002480A EP1688900B1 (fr) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Méthode pour la détermination de la position de dispositifs dans un système détecteur de dangers
PT05002480T PT1688900E (pt) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Método para a determinação da posição de dispositivos num sistema detector de perigos
AT05002480T ATE364210T1 (de) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Verfahren zur bestimmung der position von geräten einer gefahrenmeldeanlage
PL05002480T PL1688900T3 (pl) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Sposób wyznaczania pozycji urządzeń instalacji sygnalizującej niebezpieczeństwo
SI200530039T SI1688900T1 (sl) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Postopek za določanje položaja naprav sistema za javljanje nevarnosti
DE502005000823T DE502005000823D1 (de) 2005-02-07 2005-02-07 Verfahren zur Bestimmung der Position von Geräten einer Gefahrenmeldeanlage
AU2006210165A AU2006210165B2 (en) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Process for determining the position of devices in a danger detection system
CNB2006800042031A CN100530257C (zh) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 用于确定危险报警装置的设备的位置的方法
BRPI0608151A BRPI0608151A8 (pt) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Método para determinação da posição de dispositivos em um sistema de detecção de perigo
KR1020077020361A KR101145490B1 (ko) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 위험 검출 시스템에서 디바이스들의 포지션을 결정하기 위한 방법
CA002596914A CA2596914A1 (fr) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Procede pour determiner la position d'appareils dans un systeme avertisseur de danger
US11/815,713 US7639127B2 (en) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Method for determining the position of devices in a hazard detection system
MX2007009478A MX2007009478A (es) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Procedimiento para determinar la posicion de aparatos en un sistema de deteccion de peligro.
PCT/EP2006/050054 WO2006082119A1 (fr) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Procede pour determiner la position d'appareils dans un systeme avertisseur de danger
RU2007133496/11A RU2389079C2 (ru) 2005-02-07 2006-01-05 Способ определения местоположения приборов установки аварийной сигнализации

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DE502005000823D1 (de) 2007-07-19
ATE364210T1 (de) 2007-06-15
CN101116121A (zh) 2008-01-30
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BRPI0608151A2 (pt) 2009-11-10
US20080258905A1 (en) 2008-10-23
KR20070100917A (ko) 2007-10-12
AU2006210165B2 (en) 2010-07-01
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PL1688900T3 (pl) 2007-10-31
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