EP1518441A1 - Vorrichtung und verfahren zum unterdrücken einer rückkopplung - Google Patents
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- H04R—LOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; DEAF-AID SETS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
- H04R25/00—Deaf-aid sets, i.e. electro-acoustic or electro-mechanical hearing aids; Electric tinnitus maskers providing an auditory perception
- H04R25/45—Prevention of acoustic reaction, i.e. acoustic oscillatory feedback
- H04R25/453—Prevention of acoustic reaction, i.e. acoustic oscillatory feedback electronically
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- H04R—LOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; DEAF-AID SETS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
- H04R3/00—Circuits for transducers, loudspeakers or microphones
- H04R3/02—Circuits for transducers, loudspeakers or microphones for preventing acoustic reaction, i.e. acoustic oscillatory feedback
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- the present invention relates to audio playback systems and in particular also to audio playback systems in live environments.
- Known feedback suppression techniques mix audible feedback tones into the microphone and use filters to suppress incoming feedback.
- Alternative feedback suppression techniques use a so-called pitch shifting technique to shift the feedback into inaudible parts of the spectrum so that stable feedback tones are avoided.
- the first solution requires a short feedback to trigger suppression
- the other solution sometimes produces a strange tone, e.g. making singing and voicing difficult for artists.
- the object of the present invention is to provide an improved concept for suppressing feedback.
- the present invention is based on the finding that effective feedback suppression can be achieved in that a microphone signal, which is a superimposition of a useful signal and a feedback signal originating from one loudspeaker or several loudspeakers, is processed before the mixing or amplification so that the feedback portion from the microphone signal is subtracted so that only the useful signal remains after the subtraction.
- the feedback signal component is preferred consistently removed from the microphone signal. To do this, it is necessary to determine the feedback signal component synthetically on the microphone.
- a marking operation is carried out for this purpose in such a way that the signal which is emitted by the loudspeaker can be recognized. This is achieved in that either in the microphone signal after subtraction or in the microphone signal before subtraction or in the signal after mixing and amplification, that is, in the z.
- a device for determining a property of a transmission channel from the loudspeaker to the microphone or directly for a feedback loop from a microphone back to itself using the received microphone signal which is a superimposition of the feedback signal and the useful signal and using the known test signal that has been embedded.
- a preferred procedure for determining the property of the transmission channel in the environment between the loudspeaker and the microphone is to carry out a cross-correlation between the microphone signal and the test signal.
- the cross correlation for example, directly provides the impulse response of the channel between the loudspeaker and the observed microphone.
- Alternative channel determination methods can also be used.
- a filter which filters the loudspeaker signal in order to obtain a filtered loudspeaker signal.
- the time-variant channel from the loudspeaker to the microphone is “simulated” to a certain extent in order to synthetically calculate the feedback signal fed into the microphone so that it is available to the subtraction device.
- the present invention performs optimal feedback cancellation when the channel changes only slowly. This is very often the case with concerts, given the movements caused by human artists. Even if an artist makes a very fast movement, this fast movement does not last very long, such that a short, fast movement is followed by a slower movement or even a pause.
- the system according to the invention is able not only to suppress feedback at the beginning of the "transient", but also during the transient, to the effect that any feedback that may have already started can be suppressed, ie subtracted, while it is still in progress ,
- the test signal is a pseudo noise sequence that can be generated easily, quickly and inexpensively with little effort, for example using feedback shift registers, and if such a shift register is made available at several locations, it can be reproduced easily.
- a plurality of shift register devices which are to generate such a pseudo random sequence can be initialized with the same starting value or “seed”. It is known that pseudo-noise sequences look noisy, but usually have a relatively long period. The noisy appearance of a pseudo-noise sequence is expressed in the frequency domain when the pseudo-noise signal has a white spectrum, such that all frequencies are equally strong.
- this white pseudo-noise signal can be mixed in immediately if it is ensured that the level of the mixed-in pseudo-noise signal is relatively low and does not lead to audible interference, or leads to only slight audible interference.
- test signal regardless of whether it is a pseudo-noise signal or not, using a microphone signal which is preferably free from the feedback component or by using an amplified microphone signal, i.e. the Loudspeaker signal to evaluate derived psychoacoustic masking threshold.
- a microphone signal which is preferably free from the feedback component or by using an amplified microphone signal, i.e. the Loudspeaker signal to evaluate derived psychoacoustic masking threshold.
- test signal evaluated in this way to the microphone signal or to the loudspeaker signal leads to the fact that the embedded test signal will not be audible to the listener, so that the listener is not aware of the feedback suppression procedure which is constantly running.
- a test signal with the highest possible energy in the loudspeaker signal is desirable for effective suppression, that is to say for the most accurate possible determination of the impulse response of the channel between the loudspeaker and the microphone, that is to say for the exact simulation of the feedback component.
- the maximum energy is achieved without loss of audio quality if the test signal is a pseudo-noise signal, that is to say extends over the entire relevant frequency range, and is weighted psycho-acoustically in such a way that it is below the marking threshold of the loudspeaker signal.
- test signal In signal portions of the loudspeaker signal with a high masking effect, the test signal is therefore represented with a high energy, while in signal portions of the loudspeaker signal with a low masking effect, for example in tonal audio portions, the test signal is represented with relatively little or no energy, in that no audio quality integration eats for the listener.
- the present invention is particularly suitable for multichannel environments in which there are a number of microphones and a number of loudspeakers.
- the use of different test signals embedded in the individual microphone signals, which are preferably orthogonal to one another, and the use of a cross-correlation device for the determination of each relevant channel mean that the optimum feedback component can be calculated for each microphone. This results in flexible feedback suppression that is precisely adapted to the individual microphone signals, since each channel is simulated individually.
- the computing power for channel determination can preferably be borrowed using a cross-correlation.
- a typical amplifier system e.g. a PA system
- a mixer of considerable size and cost in which setting some digital signal processors for calculating the channel characteristics and suppressing the feedback components will not be significant in view of the total cost of the system.
- the present invention brings about an efficient feedback suppression without negative consequences for the listeners on the one hand and in particular also for the artists on the other hand with typically almost negligible costs in relation to the overall system.
- Particular emphasis is placed on ensuring that the artists are not disturbed in their artistic expression, in such a way that they B. hear "tuned” audible feedback suppression tones or that in the case of pitch shifting the signals perceived by the artist have a different pitch when they were sung by the artist, for example.
- pitch shifting will already suffice for this known feedback suppression, these are nevertheless annoyances for the artist, which should restrict his artistic expression.
- it is precisely the artist who ultimately decides which system must be provided for him.
- the test signal can be embedded directly in the loudspeaker signals, ie before the analog / digital conversion and acoustic reproduction.
- the adaptation to the psychoacoustic properties of the loudspeaker signal will be best, since the psychoacoustic model of the loudspeaker signal will be immediately meaningful for what a viewer hears or not.
- Embedding in the loudspeaker signal also has the advantage that transmission functions from each loudspeaker to each microphone can be simulated individually and used for feedback suppression.
- This alternative according to the invention leads to better sound quality for the listener, but requires higher computing power in that if, for example, three microphones and three loudspeakers are present, nine different transmission channels are already determined with regard to the properties, have to be simulated with typically FIR filters and used for subtraction , before actually subtracting the total feedback tion signal an addition of the three individual simulated feedback signals supplied in the case described by three loudspeakers must be carried out.
- Another alternative of the present invention is to embed the test signal in the modified microphone signal, that is to say after the subtraction, that is to say before the microphone signals are mixed and amplified in order to obtain an embedding signal.
- the embedding signal is used simultaneously to be filtered and to supply the filtered signal to the subtraction device.
- the psychoacoustic model is preferably calculated here on the basis of the modified microphone signal in order to maintain the masking threshold for optimal embedding.
- the information about the psychoacoustic masking threshold can, however, also be derived from the individual loudspeaker signals and fed to the corresponding embedding device, which lies before the mixing / amplification, so that there is better control of the test signal.
- the test signal should on the one hand not be audible and on the other hand should be available with the highest possible energy. If a psychoacoustic model is derived from a signal that does not correspond directly to the loudspeaker signal, but only corresponds approximately, the energy of the embedded test signal is kept below the psychoacoustic masking threshold by a certain safety distance, which prevents the deterioration of the audio quality, but does so a poorer signal / noise ratio in the transmission channel determination and thus could lead to poorer feedback suppression.
- test signal can be inserted into the microphone signal before the feedback component subtraction. If the feedback component is calculated accurately, the embedded test signal will survive the feedback component subtraction relatively "undamaged” such that this case can be viewed similarly to the case where the test signal is already embedded in the modified microphone signal.
- Fig.la a preferred embodiment of the present invention in a multi-channel environment with embedding on the microphone side;
- Fig.lb an alternative embodiment of the feedback suppression concept according to the invention with embedding on the microphone side;
- FIG. 4 shows a schematic summary of the procedure for calculating an impulse response of the transmission channel shown in FIG. 3 using a cross correlation.
- Fig.l shows a preferred embodiment of the present invention in a multi-channel setting, in which a plurality of microphones 10, 11, 12 and a plurality of speakers 13, 14, 15 are arranged.
- a signal processing device 16 Arranged between the microphones on the microphone side and the loudspeakers on the loudspeaker side is a signal processing device 16, which is any sound system which, among other things, also mixes or amplifies the sound signal which is fed in by the microphones can.
- Signals from the three speakers 13, 14, 15 are superimposed on each microphone and form a feedback signal fi (t) for each microphone.
- the loudspeaker signals of the loudspeakers 13, 14, 15 are transmitted via a free-space transmission channel 17, which can be defined such that a first transmission channel hi is defined from the three loudspeakers to the first microphone, that a second from the three loudspeakers to the second microphone 11 Transmission channel h 2 is defined that a third transmission channel h 3 is defined from the three loudspeakers to the third microphone 12.
- a test signal is embedded in a modified microphone signal using an embedding device 20, 21, 22 in order to obtain a respective embedding signal for each microphone channel at the output of the device 21, 21 or 22.
- a first test signal pi is embedded in the modified microphone signal of the first microphone 10 in order to obtain a first embedding signal.
- a second test signal p 2 is embedded in the modified microphone of the signal of the second microphone 11 in order to obtain a second embedding signal.
- a third test signal p is embedded in the modified microphone signal of the third microphone 12 in order to obtain a third embedding signal.
- a subtractor 30, 31, 32 is also assigned to each microphone.
- the subtracting device is designed to subtract a simulated feedback component, which in the ideal case is equal to the feedback component fi (t) received by a microphone, from the microphone signal.
- a modified microphone signal is thus present at the output of the respective subtracting device 30, 31, 32, which corresponds to the original useful signal s ⁇ (t), s 2 (t) or s 3 (t).
- each microphone is assigned its own channel simulation filter 40, 41, 42, the first simulation filter 40 being designed to have the same channel impulse response h 1 (t) as is shown in block 17, the one in FIG Representation in block 17 is associated not only with the free space channel, but also with the transfer function through the mixing / amplification block 16.
- the simulated channel impulse response also already includes the necessary delay.
- the second channel simulation filter 41 is designed to have the same channel impulse response h 2 (t) as is outlined in block 17 (including mixing / amplification).
- the third simulation filter 42 is designed to have the same channel impulse response h 3 (t) as is indicated in block 17 (including mixing / amplification).
- the channel impulse responses for setting the simulation filter 40, 41, 42 are determined in respective devices 50, 51, 52 for determining a property of a transmission channel.
- the first device 50 for determining receives the test signal which has been fed into the modified microphone signal of the microphone 10.
- the second device 51 for determining this Test signal p 2 which has been used in the device 21 for embedding.
- the device 52 for determining the third microphone receives the same test signal p 3 that has been fed into the modified microphone signal of the third microphone.
- the three test signals p x , p 2 , p 3 are each pseudo-noise sequences which are orthogonal to one another, so that they are carried out in the devices 50, 51, 52 for determining Cross correlation with the respective test signal pi, p 2 , p 3 can be distinguished from the modified microphone signals provided with the other test signals and thus the loudspeaker signals emitted.
- a cross correlation e.g. of the microphone signal of the first microphone 10 with the pseudo-noise sequence pi will result in the modified microphone signals provided with the pseudo-noise sequences being correlated out by the second and third microphones, so that only the actually from the first microphone signal subtracting feedback portion that is problematic in generating feedback is subtracted.
- feedback signals from the other two microphones 11, 12 are not critical here, since such feedback signals are in the signal processing path that from the first microphone leads to the three speakers 13, 14, 15, are not critical with regard to the generation of feedback.
- the embedding signal of this microphone channel is also used and filtered for the filter parameter calculation for each microphone channel.
- the filter 40 for generating the filtered signal to be supplied to the device 30 becomes the embedding signal Output of the device 20 supplied.
- the filter 41 is fed with the embedding signal from the device 21.
- the filter 42 is fed with the embedding signal from the device 22.
- FIG. 1 a only subtracts the signal which is problematic for feedback.
- the (earlier) signal from the first microphone, which (later) is coupled in again is problematic for feedback via the first microphone. In this case, it does not matter from which speaker (s) the first microphone signal is reproduced.
- the channel calculated by correlating the first microphone signal with the first test signal corresponds to a "feedback loop", ie a loop from the microphone, via the mixing / amplification, one or more speakers and the free space channel back to the microphone (including the transmission characteristic of the microphone actually used)
- a feedback loop ie a loop from the microphone, via the mixing / amplification, one or more speakers and the free space channel back to the microphone (including the transmission characteristic of the microphone actually used)
- the impulse response hi determined “automatically” also includes the delay that occurred in the feedback loop, so that no further precautions need to be taken for this.
- the situation is transparent in that the psychoacoustic masking threshold of the signal fed into the embedding device can be used for spectral coloring.
- a loudspeaker signal could also be fed back and fed into the filter.
- the assignment in such a way that the loudspeaker signal 13 is filtered and returned to the first microphone 10 is in principle arbitrary. If the dominant assignment of the first microphone is rather to the loudspeaker 2, the loudspeaker signal of the loudspeaker 14 would be fed back to the first microphone via the simulation filter 40.
- the assignment of the loudspeaker signals to the microphones can thus only be seen as an example in FIG. 1 a and can also vary from time to time depending on the mixture in the signal processing device 16.
- FIG. 1b to FIG. La differs from the embodiment shown in FIG. La in that loudspeaker signals are fed back and not embedding signals, and in that the signals from the various loudspeakers 13, 14, 15 are in one Summation device 23 are added up, and that the loudspeaker sum signal is then filtered with the corresponding different simulation filters 40, 41, 42 in order to generate the three synthesized feedback components which are fed to the corresponding subtraction devices 30, 31, 32, as described in FIG Fig. Lb is shown.
- the loudspeaker signals of all the loudspeakers overlap in the transmission channel 17 and lead, for example, to a resulting feedback signal f (t) which consists of signal portions of the first, second and third loudspeakers modified by a correspondingly definable transmission function.
- a first transmission function hi is defined for the transmission of the sum signal of the three loudspeakers, which are superimposed in the free space transmission channel, to the first microphone.
- a transfer function h 2 is defined for the transmission of the sum signal to the second microphone 11 and finally a resultant transfer function h 3 is defined for the transmission of the sum signal to the third microphone 12.
- transfer functions hi, h 2 , h 3 are again determined in the devices 50, 51, 52, preferably by cross-correlation with the corresponding pseudo-Neuseh sequence pi, p 2 or p 3 assigned to a specific microphone.
- the design of the subtraction devices 30, 31, 32, the embedding devices 20, 21, 22 and the simulated onsfilter 40, 41, 42 is designed as in the embodiment described with reference to FIG.
- the test signal is not embedded on the microphone side, but on the loudspeaker side.
- nxm different channels can be defined, where n is a number of speakers greater than or equal to 1, and m is a number of microphones greater than or equal to 1.
- the channel from the second loudspeaker 14 to the first microphone 10 By correlating the output signal of the first microphone 10 using the second pseudo-noise sequence p 2 , the channel from the second loudspeaker 14 to the first microphone 10, which is denoted by h 2 , can be calculated. Analogously, by correlating the microphone signal of the first microphone 10 with the third pseudo-noise sequence p 3, the channel from the loudspeaker LS3 to the first microphone Ml, which is denoted by h 3 , can be simulated.
- the same procedure can be followed for the output signals of the microphones 11 and 12 as is indicated by means of the devices 50, 51, 52 for the determination.
- the devices 50, 51, 52 are thus able to calculate a separate channel transmission function for the channel from each loudspeaker to each microphone, with which each individual loudspeaker signal can be folded, which takes place in the simulation filters 40, 41, 42, to then, for example, within the subtraction device 30, 31 or 30 or in an upstream block from the three channel output signals for each microphone to calculate the resulting feedback component by addition in order to arrive at a resulting feedback component.
- This is then from the feedback signal fed into a respective microphone fi (t) subtracted to arrive at a modified microphone signal for each microphone in which each channel has been selectively taken into account.
- a device 50 for determining can be implemented completely in parallel in order to calculate the channel impulse responses hu, h ⁇ 2 and h ⁇ 3 at the same time.
- the corresponding device could, however, also be implemented in series, in which case an intermediate memory is preferred with a view to optimum temporal synchronism of the three channels hu, h i2 , h i3 with one another.
- the filter devices 40, 41, 42 can be designed in series or in parallel, a parallel design providing the best results, such that a separate simulation filter is provided for each possible channel of the channels possible in FIG. 2, such that the filter device 40, for example, actually comprises three individual simulation filters whose filter coefficients are set using the corresponding channel impulse response hu, h ⁇ 2 , h i3 .
- the addition of the three simulated feedback components from each loudspeaker into a resulting feedback component could therefore also take place in the filter device 40 immediately after the calculation of the corresponding impulse responses and the folding of the loudspeaker signals with these impulse responses.
- FIG. 2 just as in the exemplary embodiments shown in FIGS.
- the three test signals p lf p, p 3 should be as orthogonal as possible to one another. This condition can be achieved simply and safely using pseudo-noise sequences, and this property is not lost by psychoacoustic filtering of the test signals before embedding.
- a speaker signal is the signal that a listener actually hears.
- the embedding can therefore best be carried out if the loudspeaker signals are used to calculate the psychoacoustic masking thresholds.
- a psychoacoustic model could also be calculated on the basis of the respective loudspeaker signals 13, 14, 15 and used for embedding in the corresponding microphone signals in the devices 20, 21 and 22.
- amplifications that take place between a microphone and a loudspeaker in the device 16 can easily be taken into account.
- the mixing in the mixer 16 is deterministic, it is preferred in such a case to set a psychoacoustic masking threshold corresponding to that Mixing process to calculate simulated signal to obtain a loudspeaker signal in which, if the loudspeaker signal is the combination of several microphone signals, the test signals of several microphones are embedded to different degrees or to the same extent, the test signals, however, taken as a whole essentially the psychoacoustic masking threshold of a loudspeaker signal follow, so that an embedding with maximum energy is achieved, while at the same time no or only negligibly small audio quality losses are brought about.
- a discrete-time test signal p (t) is applied to the channel.
- the channel outputs a received signal y (t) which, as is known, corresponds to the convolution of the input signal and with the channel impulse response.
- a matrix notation is used.
- a channel impulse response with only two values h 0 and hi is assumed without restricting the generality.
- the channel impulse response h 0 , hi can be written as a channel impulse response matrix H (t), which has the band structure shown in FIG. 4, the remaining elements of the matrix being filled with zeros.
- the excitation signal p (t) is written as a vector, it being assumed here that the excitation signal has only three samples p 0 , pi, p 2 without restricting the generality.
- the convolution shown in FIG. 3 corresponds to the matrix-vector multiplication shown in FIG. 4, so that a vector y results for the output signal.
- the cross correlation can be written as the expected value E ⁇ ... ⁇ of the multiplication of the output signal y (t) by the conjugate-complex-transposed excitation signal p * ⁇ .
- the expected value is calculated as a limit for N against infinity over that in FIG. 5 shown summation of individual products for different excitation signals p ⁇ .
- the multiplication and subsequent summation results in the cross-correlation matrix, which is shown at the top left in FIG. 4, the same being weighted with the effective value of the excitation signal p, which is represented by ⁇ p 2 .
- the first line of the channel impulse response matrix is taken, for example, whereupon the individual components are divided by ⁇ p 2 in order to directly obtain the individual components of the channel impulse response ho, hi.
- the spectral coloring can be represented by digital filtering, the filter being described by a filter coefficient matrix Q.
- the correlation matrix H also results on the output side, but is now still weighted with the expected value over Q x Q H.
- the cross-correlation concept for calculating the impulse response is an iterative concept, as can be seen from the summation approach for the expected value shown in FIG. 4.
- the first multiplication of the reaction signal by the conjugate-complex-transposed excitation signal already provides a first, very rough estimate for the channel impulse response, which becomes better and better with each further multiplication and summation.
- the entire matrix H (t) is calculated by the iterative summation approach, it turns out that the elements of the Band matrix H (t) gradually approaches zero, while in the middle, ie the band of the matrix, the coefficients of the channel impulse response h (t) remain and assume certain values.
- B. calculate a row of the matrix H (t) in order to obtain the entire channel impulse response.
- the concept according to the invention is not limited to the procedure for calculating the cross-correlation described with reference to FIG. 4. All other methods for calculating the cross-correlation between a measurement signal and a reaction signal can also be used. Other methods of determining an impulse response instead of cross correlation can also be used.
- the length of the pseudo-noise sequences used should depend on the expected impulse response of the channel under consideration. For larger acoustic environments, impulse responses with a length of a few seconds are conceivable. This fact must be taken into account by selecting an appropriate length of the pseudo-noise sequences for correlation.
- the method according to the invention can be implemented in hardware or in software.
- the implementation can take place on a digital storage medium, in particular a floppy disk or CD with electronically readable control signals, which can interact with a programmable computer system in such a way that the method is carried out.
- the invention thus also consists in a computer program product with program code stored on a machine-readable carrier for carrying out the method according to the invention when the computer program product runs on a computer.
- the invention can thus be considered a Computer program can be implemented with a program code for performing the method when the computer program runs on a computer.
- test signal must not necessarily be embedded in the modified microphone signal or the loudspeaker signal, but that the test signal can also be embedded in the microphone signal in front of the corresponding subtraction device, although the test signal is embedded after the subtraction device is preferred.
- the embedded test signal by subtracting an incorrectly matching feedback component and the like. U. could be damaged, which should lead to a further complication of the channel simulation by the devices 50, 51, 52.
- an inaudible broadband signal is thus embedded in each microphone signal.
- this signal is adaptively adapted to the recorded sound, a psychoacoustic model being able to be used, which in principle can be arbitrary and can be calculated based on time domain data or also based on frequency domain data.
- a pseudo-noise sequence is preferred as the broadband signal, since with such a sequence an orthogonality between several sequences can easily be achieved.
- the recorded signal is compared to the pseudo-noise signal before embedding and used to calculate the acoustic properties of all loudspeakers for the corresponding microphone.
- a cross-correlation is preferred as the comparison operation, which, if the iterative algorithm shown in FIG. 4 is used, can be computed without any time-consuming computation with any scalable accuracy.
- the scalability provides in particular the possibility of providing a quick but coarser calculation for specific situations, for example for a rock group with a lot of movement on the stage, while for other application scenarios, such as a rock group where the artists are static, e.g. scaling to a larger number of iteration values could be carried out since the individual channels are less time-variant
- an inverse filter is created to suppress unwanted components.
- the inverse filter is implemented by the simulation filter and the corresponding assigned subtraction devices.
- the use of microphone signals enables spectrally shaped PNS signals to be stored so that interference with original sound signals is avoided and that a psychoacoustic model for calculating the spectral shaping only has to be calculated once and not in the corresponding device for determining it again must be calculated.
- a unique PNS signal is embedded in the signal from each speaker. This method of embedding on the speaker side enables the measurement of a path from each speaker to each microphone.
- a suppression filter is used, separately for each speaker, which results in better sound quality, but at the expense of higher computing costs, which, however, should not be particularly important in view of the total cost of medium to large sound systems.
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