EP1173713A1 - Method for operating a gas burner - Google Patents
Method for operating a gas burnerInfo
- Publication number
- EP1173713A1 EP1173713A1 EP01909585A EP01909585A EP1173713A1 EP 1173713 A1 EP1173713 A1 EP 1173713A1 EP 01909585 A EP01909585 A EP 01909585A EP 01909585 A EP01909585 A EP 01909585A EP 1173713 A1 EP1173713 A1 EP 1173713A1
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- EP
- European Patent Office
- Prior art keywords
- gas burner
- ionization signal
- load operation
- deviation
- difference
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- Legal status (The legal status is an assumption and is not a legal conclusion. Google has not performed a legal analysis and makes no representation as to the accuracy of the status listed.)
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23D—BURNERS
- F23D14/00—Burners for combustion of a gas, e.g. of a gas stored under pressure as a liquid
- F23D14/46—Details, e.g. noise reduction means
- F23D14/72—Safety devices, e.g. operative in case of failure of gas supply
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N5/00—Systems for controlling combustion
- F23N5/02—Systems for controlling combustion using devices responsive to thermal changes or to thermal expansion of a medium
- F23N5/12—Systems for controlling combustion using devices responsive to thermal changes or to thermal expansion of a medium using ionisation-sensitive elements, i.e. flame rods
- F23N5/123—Systems for controlling combustion using devices responsive to thermal changes or to thermal expansion of a medium using ionisation-sensitive elements, i.e. flame rods using electronic means
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N2227/00—Ignition or checking
- F23N2227/12—Burner simulation or checking
- F23N2227/16—Checking components, e.g. electronic
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N2227/00—Ignition or checking
- F23N2227/20—Calibrating devices
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F23—COMBUSTION APPARATUS; COMBUSTION PROCESSES
- F23N—REGULATING OR CONTROLLING COMBUSTION
- F23N5/00—Systems for controlling combustion
- F23N5/24—Preventing development of abnormal or undesired conditions, i.e. safety arrangements
Definitions
- the invention relates to a method for operating a gas burner according to the preamble of claim 1.
- Gas burners usually have an electrical or electronic ignition device and a flame monitoring device, the flame monitoring device generally measuring an ionization current induced by the burner flame and indicating the presence or absence of the burner flame depending on this ionization current.
- the present invention addresses the problem of providing a novel method for operating a gas burner.
- the method according to the invention is based on the knowledge that the sensor delivering the ionization signal ages during burner operation as a result of contaminations which are deposited on the sensor. Further signs of aging of the sensor can occur due to chemical disruption or the like. With such aging, the signal from the ionization sensor is no longer reliable because the electrical behavior of the sensor changes.
- each burner has a specific characteristic of the ionization current over the modulation range of the gas burner.
- the ionization current is lower when the gas burner is operated under partial load than when the gas burner is operated at nominal load.
- the aging of the sensor has a different effect on the ionization signal in partial load operation than on the ionization signal in nominal load operation.
- the first difference D (l) and the second difference D (2) are compared with one another, depending on the state of the gas burner, e.g. the state of the flame monitoring device or the sensor is closed or the state of the gas burner is influenced.
- the ionization signal is preferably determined at several successive points in time in nominal load operation and in partial load operation. For each of these times, a difference is formed between the ionization signal in nominal load operation and the ionization signal in part-load operation.
- the state of the gas burner is then determined as a function of a deviation between the differences of immediately successive points in time, and the state of the gas burner is preferably influenced.
- the degree of partial load e.g. 40% of the nominal load
- the nominal load when determining the ionization signals are identical for successive points in time.
- the aging of the sensor delivering the ionization signal is concluded, the extent of the deviation being an indicator of the degree of aging of the sensor.
- a service indicator is activated to indicate to an operator that the sensor needs to be replaced. This is preferably done when a threshold value for the deviation is exceeded. Depending on this deviation, it is also possible to switch to emergency operation; in the event of large deviations, the gas burner is preferably switched off.
- the regulation of the gas burner can also be adapted.
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- Engineering & Computer Science (AREA)
- Chemical & Material Sciences (AREA)
- Combustion & Propulsion (AREA)
- Mechanical Engineering (AREA)
- General Engineering & Computer Science (AREA)
- Control Of Combustion (AREA)
- Other Investigation Or Analysis Of Materials By Electrical Means (AREA)
- Regulation And Control Of Combustion (AREA)
Abstract
Description
Claims
Applications Claiming Priority (3)
Application Number | Priority Date | Filing Date | Title |
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DE10003819A DE10003819C1 (en) | 2000-01-28 | 2000-01-28 | Gas burner operating process, involving use of ionization signal and comparing differences in its readings |
DE10003819 | 2000-01-28 | ||
PCT/EP2001/000126 WO2001055643A1 (en) | 2000-01-28 | 2001-01-08 | Method for operating a gas burner |
Publications (2)
Publication Number | Publication Date |
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EP1173713A1 true EP1173713A1 (en) | 2002-01-23 |
EP1173713B1 EP1173713B1 (en) | 2004-03-31 |
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Application Number | Title | Priority Date | Filing Date |
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EP01909585A Expired - Lifetime EP1173713B1 (en) | 2000-01-28 | 2001-01-08 | Method for operating a gas burner |
Country Status (5)
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US (1) | US6783355B2 (en) |
EP (1) | EP1173713B1 (en) |
CA (1) | CA2365618A1 (en) |
DE (2) | DE10003819C1 (en) |
WO (1) | WO2001055643A1 (en) |
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- 2001-01-08 WO PCT/EP2001/000126 patent/WO2001055643A1/en active IP Right Grant
- 2001-01-08 DE DE50101822T patent/DE50101822D1/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 2001-01-08 CA CA002365618A patent/CA2365618A1/en not_active Abandoned
- 2001-01-08 US US09/937,732 patent/US6783355B2/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 2001-01-08 EP EP01909585A patent/EP1173713B1/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
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Cited By (1)
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EP3680553A1 (en) * | 2019-01-10 | 2020-07-15 | Vaillant GmbH | Method for regulating the combustion air ratio of a burner of a heater |
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US20040009442A1 (en) | 2004-01-15 |
WO2001055643A1 (en) | 2001-08-02 |
CA2365618A1 (en) | 2001-08-02 |
US6783355B2 (en) | 2004-08-31 |
EP1173713B1 (en) | 2004-03-31 |
DE10003819C1 (en) | 2001-05-17 |
DE50101822D1 (en) | 2004-05-06 |
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