EP1149376A1 - Arrangement for creating pressure points in keyboards for piano-like keyboard instruments - Google Patents
Arrangement for creating pressure points in keyboards for piano-like keyboard instrumentsInfo
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- EP1149376A1 EP1149376A1 EP00989797A EP00989797A EP1149376A1 EP 1149376 A1 EP1149376 A1 EP 1149376A1 EP 00989797 A EP00989797 A EP 00989797A EP 00989797 A EP00989797 A EP 00989797A EP 1149376 A1 EP1149376 A1 EP 1149376A1
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- G—PHYSICS
- G10—MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; ACOUSTICS
- G10C—PIANOS, HARPSICHORDS, SPINETS OR SIMILAR STRINGED MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WITH ONE OR MORE KEYBOARDS
- G10C3/00—Details or accessories
- G10C3/12—Keyboards; Keys
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- G—PHYSICS
- G10—MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; ACOUSTICS
- G10H—ELECTROPHONIC MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; INSTRUMENTS IN WHICH THE TONES ARE GENERATED BY ELECTROMECHANICAL MEANS OR ELECTRONIC GENERATORS, OR IN WHICH THE TONES ARE SYNTHESISED FROM A DATA STORE
- G10H1/00—Details of electrophonic musical instruments
- G10H1/02—Means for controlling the tone frequencies, e.g. attack or decay; Means for producing special musical effects, e.g. vibratos or glissandos
- G10H1/04—Means for controlling the tone frequencies, e.g. attack or decay; Means for producing special musical effects, e.g. vibratos or glissandos by additional modulation
- G10H1/053—Means for controlling the tone frequencies, e.g. attack or decay; Means for producing special musical effects, e.g. vibratos or glissandos by additional modulation during execution only
- G10H1/055—Means for controlling the tone frequencies, e.g. attack or decay; Means for producing special musical effects, e.g. vibratos or glissandos by additional modulation during execution only by switches with variable impedance elements
- G10H1/0555—Means for controlling the tone frequencies, e.g. attack or decay; Means for producing special musical effects, e.g. vibratos or glissandos by additional modulation during execution only by switches with variable impedance elements using magnetic or electromagnetic means
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- G—PHYSICS
- G10—MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; ACOUSTICS
- G10H—ELECTROPHONIC MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; INSTRUMENTS IN WHICH THE TONES ARE GENERATED BY ELECTROMECHANICAL MEANS OR ELECTRONIC GENERATORS, OR IN WHICH THE TONES ARE SYNTHESISED FROM A DATA STORE
- G10H1/00—Details of electrophonic musical instruments
- G10H1/32—Constructional details
- G10H1/34—Switch arrangements, e.g. keyboards or mechanical switches specially adapted for electrophonic musical instruments
- G10H1/344—Structural association with individual keys
- G10H1/346—Keys with an arrangement for simulating the feeling of a piano key, e.g. using counterweights, springs, cams
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- G—PHYSICS
- G10—MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; ACOUSTICS
- G10H—ELECTROPHONIC MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; INSTRUMENTS IN WHICH THE TONES ARE GENERATED BY ELECTROMECHANICAL MEANS OR ELECTRONIC GENERATORS, OR IN WHICH THE TONES ARE SYNTHESISED FROM A DATA STORE
- G10H2220/00—Input/output interfacing specifically adapted for electrophonic musical tools or instruments
- G10H2220/155—User input interfaces for electrophonic musical instruments
- G10H2220/265—Key design details; Special characteristics of individual keys of a keyboard; Key-like musical input devices, e.g. finger sensors, pedals, potentiometers, selectors
- G10H2220/311—Key design details; Special characteristics of individual keys of a keyboard; Key-like musical input devices, e.g. finger sensors, pedals, potentiometers, selectors with controlled tactile or haptic feedback effect; output interfaces therefor
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- G—PHYSICS
- G10—MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; ACOUSTICS
- G10H—ELECTROPHONIC MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS; INSTRUMENTS IN WHICH THE TONES ARE GENERATED BY ELECTROMECHANICAL MEANS OR ELECTRONIC GENERATORS, OR IN WHICH THE TONES ARE SYNTHESISED FROM A DATA STORE
- G10H2220/00—Input/output interfacing specifically adapted for electrophonic musical tools or instruments
- G10H2220/461—Transducers, i.e. details, positioning or use of assemblies to detect and convert mechanical vibrations or mechanical strains into an electrical signal, e.g. audio, trigger or control signal
- G10H2220/521—Hall effect transducers or similar magnetic field sensing semiconductor devices, e.g. for string vibration sensing or key movement sensing
Definitions
- the invention relates to an arrangement for generating pressure points in keyboards for piano-like electronic keyboard instruments, in particular in keyboards for electronic harpsichords and electronic organs, with which sensors are controlled when actuating key levers and in which key levers with a touch device consisting of a sensor are used to generate pressure points and a key magnet
- EP 0 567 024 B1 specifies a device in which two permanent magnets are arranged with the same poles to one another, so that the Overcoming the repulsive magnetic field is felt as a pressure point when the magnets are guided past one another
- US Pat. No. 5,922,983 describes the simulation of force-relevant mechanical processes of a grand piano or piano piano when the keys are actuated, in that a processor, using predetermined curve profiles, controls the key movement data recorded by a key sensor and controls an electromagnet assigned to the key.
- This device enables the feeling of playing to be simulated of a simulated piano key, but it does not allow to reproduce the significantly different tactile sensation of a pipe organ manual or that of a multi-choir harpsichord Several different types of instruments cannot be simulated by a single device
- keyboards for electronic keyboard instruments with touch dynamics are also known in the prior art, in which the key throughput speed between two contacts is evaluated
- a keyboard-typical keystroke in which an initially slowly pressed key is finally accelerated to strike a still relatively loud tone, cannot be simulated with these keyboards.It would also be desirable to be able to simulate the pressure point in the same way as the key characteristics of opening and Closing the wind shutter valve one
- Pipe organ comes as close as possible
- the increase in pressure point strength should be noticeable when several organ registers are added, whereby the pressure point occurs relatively spontaneously.
- the simulation of striking the strings should also be made palpable in a multi-choir harpsichord
- the invention has for its object to provide an arrangement of the type mentioned, with which the pressure point behavior can be simulated, both a harpsichord-type and the
- the arrangement according to the invention makes it possible to simulate various types of play with a comparatively simple circuit arrangement It is particularly advantageous that several pressure points can be electrically adjusted in strength, position and length. It is possible to generate the pressure point in the form of a pulse with a steep or with an increase which is formed by any curve. Different parameters for pressing and releasing the button can be selected. It is also possible that different sound generators are assigned to the keyboard.
- FIG. 1 shows a schematic illustration of the functioning of an arrangement according to the invention
- Figure 2 is a representation of the operational phases when operating a
- FIG. 4 shows the block diagram of a comparator unit
- FIG. 5 shows how the keyboard logic works
- FIG. 6 shows the course of the switch pulses in the
- FIG. 1 explains the operation of the arrangement
- Each key lever 1 is assigned a sensor 3, which is arranged fixed to the frame on a support plate 3 1.
- the key stroke is limited by the stop felt 1 2.
- the position data of the key lever 1 are transmitted to an analog signal processing unit by signals which the sensor 3 triggers when the ring magnet 4 moves past. In the example shown, this is a comparator unit 5 but it is also possible that an analog-digital converter is used as the analog signal processing unit.
- the analog signal processing unit is followed by a programmable evaluation unit 6, which generates the data for externally connected digital signal processors 7.
- the key lever 1 is coupled to the armature of an electromagnet 2 of the evaluation unit 6 after evaluation of the position data and in dependence on a current programming via the magnet driver 13
- the external digital signal processors (DSP) 7 are connected to the programmable evaluation unit 6.
- DSPO denotes a sound expander for organ
- DSPL a sound expander for harpsichord
- DSPDYN a sound expander for dynamic attack, for example a piano expander
- the target voltage unit 8 controls the comparator unit 5 in connection with the data field 9.
- the data field 9 is connected to an external computer 10 for data determination.
- An internal computer 11 receives data from the data memory 12, which are fed to a digital-to-analog converter 15 is used by both
- Figure 2 shows in phases a) to f) the movement sequence when the key lever 1 is actuated.
- the key lever 1 is mounted in the pivot bearing 11 and is held in the rest position shown in position a) by means of weights or springs (not shown)
- the arrow is delimited by the stop felt 1 2
- the electromagnet 2 with bobbin 2 1 and rod anchor 2 2 is positioned near a contact surface 1 3 below the button Via the contact surface 1 3, the connection between the button and rod anchor 2 2 is established
- the contact surface 1 3 is advantageously adjustable as a screw.
- the support plate 3 1, designed as a printed circuit board, is firmly connected to the keyboard frame with the sensor 3.
- a permanent magnet in the form of a ring is shown as the sensor magnet 4, the axis of which is connected to the keyboard frame.
- the ring magnet 4 has two magnetized in opposite directions semicircular segments on is in the position shown the north pole of the magnet is directed towards the sensor 3. A maximum voltage is generated on the sensor 3 in one of its two possible current directions.
- the ring magnet 4 is rotatably mounted on the frame and, as shown in b), is pressed by the plunger 1 4 when the key lever 1 is pressed down rotated about its axis, which weakens the effect of the magnetic field on the sensor 3 and thereby changes its voltage.
- the electromagnet 2 is switched on and prints its rod anchor 2.1 from below against the key lever 1.
- the key - as shown in FIG. 2 c) - reaches the switch-off position of the electromagnet 2.
- the pressure point is now overcome and a key acceleration takes place instead of.
- the position shown in phase d) the
- Magnet 2 has its weakest effect on sensor 3, since neither the north nor south direction is directed at the sensor. In this case, the sensor 3 delivers half the operating voltage as in the uninfluenced state.
- the ring magnet 4 is rotated further, so that the opposite magnetic direction acts on the sensor 3. This position is shown in Figure 2 e).
- a sensor is directly connected to sensor 3, which evaluates the analog voltage.
- the connection between the plunger 1.4 and the ring magnet 4 is released and the magnet can move freely accelerated. He turns his south pole towards sensor 3.
- the ring magnet 4 is moved back into the starting position by suitable resilient magnets or by magnets arranged in opposite poles. This state corresponds to the representation in f). It is advantageous to use the magnet 4
- Weighting weights to create moments of inertia that can be felt in the key The voltage amplitude generated by the spinning of the ring magnet 4 at the output of the sensor 3 is evaluated by the processor in such a way that either a voltage measurement or a time measurement is terminated at the moment the amplitude drops and the values reached
- Data values are converted into dynamic values as valid.
- FIGS. 3 a to 3 c there are different designs for the arrangement of Sensor magnets 4 shown
- the sensor 3 and a guide iron 3 2 which increases the magnetic flux are arranged on the printed circuit board 3 1.
- circular segments of two opposite-pole magnets are provided.
- the device resembles a hammer movement and only requires short movements, which results in a weight weight is coming
- FIG. 3 c requires only one magnet with vertical polarity. It is simple to carry out and is well suited if only the organ is played
- FIG. 4 explains the structure and mode of operation of a comparator unit 5.
- Sensor 3a is assigned to a first button and sensor 3b to the next button. While the outputs of sensors 3 are combined with the upper inputs of comparators K1, the lower ones
- Comparator inputs connected to the lines of the target voltage bus to which the target voltages U so ⁇ i [i ⁇ are applied. Different target voltages produce a different switching state when the sensor voltage changes at the outputs of the comparators at different times (key positions). The seven switches thus formed are determined
- the comparators K2 to K4 and K5 to K7 each form a switch group SG.
- Each switch group SG consists of a pair of switches SP and one Reverse switch with the comparator K4 or K7
- the comparator Kl is provided for all switches as a general reset in the idle state of the button and has top priority for all switches. Taking into account the hierarchy that within a switch group the set voltage U so ⁇ from one to the next comparator is always high or is lower, the switch distances can be changed as desired. It is even possible to move the two switch groups so that they overlap or are moved to the opposite position If one of the switch groups is moved outside the voltage range of the sensor, this becomes ineffective
- the function of the keyboard logic 6 is shown in FIG. 5.
- the functionality of the modules sensor 3, comparator unit 5, target voltage unit 8 and data field 9 corresponds to the mode of operation described above.
- the external digital signal processors 7 are connected to the keyboard logic 6 with their address lines ADR and data lines DAT In data field 9, a selection is made as to which digital signal processor 7 is controlled.
- DSPOrgel 7 1, DSPCembalo 7 2 and DSPDYN (piano) 7 3 are optionally provided, ie they do not have a common data bus.
- FIG. 6 shows the extraction of the pressure points and the use of sound in
- Pressure point signal now appears, determined by the comparator K4, at the output DPu MT13 2, the pressure point up magnet driver.
- the pressure point strength can therefore generally be weaker here or be switched off completely, since both pressure point outputs can be controlled separately. This creates a one-way pressure point when the key is at rest the comparator Kl in the H state
- the number of in an organ-drawn register can be palpably depicted as pressure point weight.
- the changeable values for the organ registers defined in the data memory 12 are summed up in the computer 11 and made available for the magnet driver 13 via the digital-analog converter 15 for voltage regulation 14. This creates a register-dependent pressure point weight.
- Figure 7 shows the entire switch pulse staircase for the comparators K1 to K7. This corresponds to the type of double-choir harpsichord. They are both
- Switch groups activated.
- a 4-foot and an 8-foot string choir are assumed. It is common that the strings lying on top of each other are not pulled synchronously but one after the other. This harpsichord characteristic is taken into account with a second, similar pressure point.
- the basic procedure corresponds to that in the explanation of
- the harpsichord tone t c is not ended by the comparators K2 or K5.
- the end here is with a switch in front, because with the back pressure point insert that is very striking Touchdown begins, which ends with the damping of the string t D and produces a not insignificant characteristic overtones rich in overtones. All this necessary key-related information can be provided by the device according to the invention and used by special harpsichord samples. Though the sounds and sounds as
- the 8 'register can even be played as an upper string choir.
- the register selection is made by programming the desired voltages Usoii, since in the harpsichord a pressure point only arises when the string is struck, the pressure point is output by the keyboard logic 6 for each harpsichord register that is pulled. Playing in the
- Harpsichord type is only possible when the piano mode and the organ mode are switched off. Playing multiple modes is possible with multi-manual keyboard instruments.
- DSP digital signal processor
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