EP3775450A1

EP3775450A1 - Handle device

Info

Publication number: EP3775450A1
Application number: EP19709648.0A
Authority: EP
Inventors: Markus Bartels; Alexander Fromme; Thomas Kittel
Original assignee: Huf Huelsbeck and Fuerst GmbH and Co KG
Current assignee: Huf Huelsbeck and Fuerst GmbH and Co KG
Priority date: 2018-03-28
Filing date: 2019-02-28
Publication date: 2021-02-17
Also published as: CN111919008A; US20200408006A1; DE102018107504A1; WO2019185281A1

Abstract

The invention relates to a handle device (1) for a movable part, in particular a door or a hatch, of a vehicle, comprising a handle part (10), which in particular is fixed, for actuating the movable part, and a carrier element (20) for fastening the handle part (10) to the movable part, wherein a lock cylinder (23) for unlocking the movable part at least in an emergency situation can be arranged on the carrier element (20). A reinforcement element (13) is provided on the handle part (10), in which reinforcement element the lock cylinder (23) can be received at least in part, and a fastening unit (30) is provided between the handle part (10) and the reinforcement element (13) in order to fasten the reinforcement element (13) to the handle part (10) in an interlocking and/or frictionally engaged manner.

Description

handle device

Description

The invention relates to a handle device for a movable part, in particular a door or a flap, of a vehicle according to the preamble of the independent device claim, which is executed with a, in particular fixed, handle part for actuating the movable part and a support member for fixing the handle part on the movable part is. Furthermore, the invention relates to a method for mounting a corresponding handle device according to the preamble of the independent method claim.

Handle devices for vehicle doors are basically known, for example from the document DE 10 2007 027 845 A1. Known grip devices are usually designed with a grip part for actuating a vehicle door and a carrier element for fastening the grip part to the vehicle door. Often the gripping devices are designed as keyless devices. In some gripping devices, a lock cylinder is still attached to the handle part to at an emergency, for example, in case of failure of the electronics of a keyless system, yet to allow access to the interior of the vehicle. In order to fasten such a grip part on the carrier element, often several complicated assembly steps have to be carried out until the grip part and the lock cylinder are fastened to the carrier element. Such gripping devices are therefore expensive to install.

The object of the present invention is therefore to provide a handle device for a movable part, in particular a door or a flap, of a vehicle which at least partially overcomes the above-mentioned disadvantages. In particular, it is an object of the present invention to provide a handle device which is simple in construction and which can be mounted easily, quickly and without great effort on the movable part. Furthermore, a method for mounting such a grip device is to be provided. The method should in particular enable the assembly of the grip device to be improved, preferably facilitated.

The present object is achieved by a grip device with the features of the independent device claim, in particular from the characterizing part. Also, to solve the problem, a method for assembling a Türgriffsy stems with the features of the independent method claim, in particular from the characterizing part proposed. In the dependent device and method claims preferred developments of the invention are listed. Features which are disclosed for the individual embodiments of the grip device according to the invention and the method according to the invention can be combined in such a way that with respect to the disclosure of the embodiments of the grip device according to the invention and the method according to the invention is always reciprocal reference or can be. In addition, the inventive method for mounting the handle device according to the invention can be carried out.

The handle device according to the invention for a movable part, in particular a door or a flap of a vehicle is designed with a, in particular fixed, handle part for actuating the movable part and a support member for fixing the handle part on the movable part, wherein the support member is a lock cylinder for unlocking the movable part can be arranged at least in an emergency, wherein on the handle part, a reinforcing element is provided, in which the lock cylinder is at least partially receivable, and wherein between the handle part and the reinforcing element is provided a fastening unit to the reinforcing element positively and / or non-positively to attach to the handle.

The device according to the invention can be used on a vehicle door both from the driver's side and from the passenger side as well as at rear vehicle doors or a boot lid. The carrier element may mean any parts in relation to the movable part for mounting the handle part. The handle part may in particular be designed as a fixed outside door handle which immovably on the movable part of the vehicle, such as. B. a vehicle door is attached.

The inventive idea lies in the fact that the lock cylinder can be pre-assembled on the carrier element, while the reinforcing element for the lock cylinder, a so-called "socket", can be attached to the handle part. The "socket" for the protection of the lock cylinder can, for example, be embedded on the stationary door handle via a latching connection (an example of a first fastening unit in the sense of the invention). To attach such a handle device on the moving part of the vehicle, only two individually manageable units need to be handled, namely on the one hand the support element (with already pre-assembled lock cylinder) and on the other hand, the handle part (with already pre-fastened reinforcing element for the lock cylinder). In this case, the fitter can easily and conveniently grip the support element with one hand and the handle part with the other hand. The support member is disposed from an inside of the movable part and the grip part from an outside of the movable part. By interaction of the support element and the handle part they are mounted on the moving part. Thus, the assembly of the gripping device in only one assembly step, namely by performing only a plug movement of the handle part on the carrier element. To secure the attachment of the two units, namely the support member and the handle portion, each other and thus the handle device on the movable part, a blech-like securing element can be used, which can prevent loosening of the handle part of the support element. As a result, the gripping device can be secured against loss on the moving part. In summary, it can be stated that the Mounting the handle device on the moving part using the invention can be greatly facilitated.

Furthermore, it is conceivable that the lock cylinder may be arranged in the handle part preferably behind a cap. In addition, it is conceivable that the lock cylinder can act directly mechanically on a pawl in a door lock of the movable part, so that a purely electrical actuation of the movable part for opening and / or closing can be made without having to move the handle relative to the moving part , Thus, the emergency lock cylinder does not unlock the central lock, but interacts directly with the lock or the pawl mechanically together.

Furthermore, it can be provided in the context of the invention in a handle device that a lock cylinder is arranged on the carrier element, wherein the reinforcing element is designed in the form of a solid collar member for the lock cylinder to enclose the lock cylinder in the assembled state of the handle device at least partially peripherally. As a result, the lock cylinder can be secured against manipulation from the outside. The burglar resistance of the gripping device according to the invention can be increased thereby.

Furthermore, it can be provided in the context of the invention in a gripping device, that the reinforcing element has a, preferably cylindrical, receptacle for the lock cylinder. Thus, the reinforcing element according to the invention can enclose the lock cylinder such that there are hardly any points of attack on the lock cylinder with any tools. Thus, the burglar resistance of the handle device according to the invention can be significantly increased.

It is also conceivable in the case of a gripping device within the scope of the invention that the reinforcing element is formed from a metal, an alloy or a ZAMAK alloy. Modern gripping devices are increasingly made of plastic materials to reduce their weight. However, such gripping devices can be damaged by a burglary tool. In order nevertheless to avoid manipulation of the lock cylinder, now the reinforcing element of a solid Material used, which is not easily cut, for example, sawn or cut, can be.

Furthermore, it can be provided in the context of the invention in a gripping device that the reinforcing element is designed in the form of a diaphragm, wherein in particular the reinforcing element is made of a plastic, preferably as an injection molded part. As a result, it is possible to provide the handle device of identical design to a passenger door as in the case of a driver's door. Often no lock cylinder is installed on the front passenger door. The need therefore eliminates the need to use a massive reinforcing element on the front passenger door. By the same shape of the reinforcing element for the driver's door and the passenger door, but of different materials, a uniform appearance on the vehicle can be made possible. Even with a passenger door with a reinforcing element made of a plastic, the assembly of the handle device on the moving part, here the passenger door, can be facilitated by the invention, because even with a passenger door only two units, namely the handle with the panel and the support element must be handled , which can be mounted together in one assembly step and thus on the front passenger door.

In addition, it can be provided in the context of the invention in a gripping device, that between the support member and the reinforcing element, a second fastening unit is provided to secure the reinforcing element positively and / or non-positively on the support member. The reinforcing element can thus serve not only to secure the lock cylinder, but also to secure the handle portion to the support member. Thus, the grip device can be reliably fixed to the movable part.

Furthermore, in the case of a gripping device, the invention may provide that the fastening unit forms part of a guide unit which is designed to guide the gripping part in a form-fitting manner during assembly on the carrier element. The guide unit may be provided between the handle part and the carrier element. Thus, the funktonality of the mounting unit can be extended. The fastening unit can thus serve not only for fastening the reinforcing element on the handle part, but also for guiding the handle part during assembly on the carrier element. The guide unit may preferably have a form a positive guide between the handle part and the carrier element, so that the handle part can be inserted in only one predetermined by the guide unit alignment on the support element. The guide unit allows the installer to obtain a tactile feedback about a correct insertion movement of the grip part into the carrier element. Thus, the insertion of the handle part in the support element can be intuitively and haptically carried out comprehensible. Further, the guide unit allows the correct position of the handle portion on the support member can be set quickly, accurately and easily controlled. Thus, the assembly of the handle device according to the invention can be further improved.

Furthermore, it can be provided within the scope of the invention that the guide unit can form a linear guide for the handle part during assembly on the carrier element. The linear guide can be provided at least for one, in particular for both handle ends. By such a linear guide unit, the mounting of the handle part on the support element can be significantly improved. In this case, the handle can be easily used on the support element in only one assembly step and with the help of only one insertion in a right direction. For this purpose, the fitter must position the handle part with the handle body parallel to the surface of the movable part and then insert only in a linear insertion movement in the direction of the surface of the movable part with both ends at the same time on the support element. In this case, at least one, in particular both handle part ends, are positively received in the carrier element. Such an insertion movement of the handle allows a simple, intuitive and easily controllable mounting of the handle on the moving part. The accuracy of the assembly can advantageously be tactile recognized by the fitter when the handle is positively received in the, preferably linear, guide.

Furthermore, the invention can provide that the grip part can have a first holding means and a second holding means over its longitudinal extension at opposite ends. Advantageously, the handle part can interact mechanically with the carrier element via the first holding means and via the second holding means. So that the grip part can interact mechanically with the carrier element for fastening, corresponding ones can be provided in the carrier element Openings may be provided as bearings, in which the first holding means and the second holding means, preferably form-fitting, can be accommodated.

In addition, the first retaining means may form part of the fastening unit. The first holding means can thus not only contribute to the attachment of the grip part to the carrier element, but also to the fastening of the reinforcing element to the grip part.

In addition, the first holding means and the second holding means may be linear and form part of the guide unit. It is conceivable that the first holding means and the second holding means may be formed as a linear protruding projections at the opposite ends of the handle portion. The first holding means and the second holding means may protrude in a same direction from the handle portion and be aligned substantially parallel to each other. In addition, it is conceivable that the first holding means and the second holding means can be aligned in such a way that they can be received therein substantially perpendicular to the extension direction of the carrier element. With the aid of such retaining means, not only the grip part can be designed to be simple and inexpensive, but also the construction of the entire grip device, including the support element for receiving the retaining means, can be simplified. It is also advantageous that the first holding means and the second holding means can form part of the guide unit. Thus, the first holding means and the second holding means can advantageously contribute not only to the attachment of the handle portion to the support member, but also to a simple, controllable and precise assembly.

Furthermore, it is conceivable in the case of a gripping device in the context of the invention that the reinforcing element has a bearing arm which forms part of the fastening unit, wherein in particular the grip part, in particular the first retaining means, has a bearing guide, wherein preferably the bearing guide is designed to be complementary to the bearing arm, to produce a positive and / or non-positive connection of the handle part with the reinforcing element. By means of the bearing arm, the reinforcing element can be received in a bearing guide on the handle part, which can be formed on the first holding means. By inserting the bearing arm into the bearing guide, the bearing arm can form a part of the guide unit together with the first retaining means. Furthermore, it is possible for the reinforcing element to have a bearing surface and the grip part, in particular the first retaining means, a bearing side, which abut one another on the grip part in the fastened state of the reinforcing element. By concerns of the support side of the handle portion of the support surface of the reinforcing element, the end position of the reinforcing element can be marked on the handle part.

Furthermore, in the case of a gripping device, the invention may provide that the reinforcing element has a positioning means and the gripping part, in particular the first holding means, a positioning receptacle which positively and / or non-positively secures the reinforcing element in the fastened state on the gripping part at least in a longitudinal direction of the gripping part. The positioning means on the reinforcing element and the positioning receptacle on the handle part engage with each other when the reinforcing element has reached the end position on the handle part when inserting its bearing arm into the bearing guide on the first holding means. This end position of the reinforcing element upwards against the handle part is limited by abutment of the support side of the handle part on the support surface of the reinforcing element. Against a displacement of the reinforcing element to the side or in a longitudinal direction of the grip part, the reinforcing element can be secured by the positioning means on the reinforcing element and the positioning receptacle on the handle part. In order to prevent a loosening of the end position of the reinforcing element downwardly from the handle part, corresponding latching and counter-latching elements may be formed on the reinforcing element and on the handle part, preferably in the region of the bearing guide on the first holding means.

In addition, the reinforcing element may have a stop opening and the handle part, in particular the first holding means, a stop means, which engage in the fastened state of the reinforcing element on the handle part. Also, the stopper opening may mark the end position of the reinforcing element on the handle part in cooperation with the stop means and prevent slippage of the reinforcing element from the handle part in a longitudinal direction of the handle part.

In addition, the invention can provide that the reinforcing element has a latching element and the handle part, in particular the first holding means, a counter-latching element which secure the reinforcing element in the attached state on the handle part, in particular against withdrawal, positively and / or non-positively. Thus, the end position of the reinforcing element can be secured down and away from the handle part. The latching and counter-latching elements on the reinforcing element and on the handle part thus serve to produce a positive and non-positive connection between the reinforcing element and the handle part.

Furthermore, it can be provided within the scope of the invention that the carrier element can have a first bearing point for the first holding means of the grip part and a second bearing point for the second holding means of the grip part. Advantageously, the first bearing point and the second bearing point can serve for the mechanical fastening of the grip part on the carrier element. In addition, the first bearing and the second bearing can form part of the guide unit. As a result, the advantage can be achieved that the functionality of the grip device can be extended with only a few means, wherein the first bearing point and the second bearing point can contribute as part of the guide unit not only for fastening the grip part on the support element, but also for a simple, quick and secure mounting of the handle on the moving part.

Furthermore, it can be provided within the scope of the invention that the guide unit can have at least one mounting means on a first holding means and / or on a second holding means of the handle part. Advantageously, the mounting means for producing a positive guidance of the grip part in the carrier element or the holding means of the grip part may be formed in the bearing points of the carrier element. It is also conceivable that the mounting means may be in the form of a rib and / or a guide receptacle. Such a mounting means is easy to manufacture and only requires a simple connection partner for a positive guidance according to the invention. Although it is conceivable that the holding means may be performed on the handle part as a whole corresponding to the openings at the bearing points of the carrier element in order to realize a positive guide, but a positive guidance is easier and more reliable to implement a specially trained mounting means. This happens for the reason that the holding means as a whole with a certain play to the openings at the Bearing points may be formed to counteract tolerances in the manufacture of the elements of the handle device or as a result of material properties. Furthermore, it is advantageous that the mounting means in the form of a rib and / or a guide receptacle can define the correct insertion direction of the grip part into the carrier element by the extension direction of the rib and / or the projection. Only in the case of a correct insertion direction of the grip part into the carrier element along the extension direction of the rib and / or of the projection can the mounting means be displaced in the carrier element or in a correspondingly designed bearing point. A tilting or an oblique insertion of the handle part in the carrier element, the mounting means is advantageously in the way. Thus, when inserting the grip part into the carrier element, the fitter can haptically receive feedback as to whether the insertion direction of the grip part into the carrier element is correct.

Furthermore, it is possible within the scope of the invention that the guide unit can have at least one guide means at a first bearing point and / or at a second bearing point of the carrier element, wherein in particular the guide means can be designed as a corresponding means for mounting means to a positive connection to produce the handle part with the support element. Advantageously, the guide means can serve as a connection partner for the mounting means in producing a positive guidance of the grip part in the carrier element or the holding means of the grip part in the bearing points of the carrier element. It is also conceivable that the guide means may be formed in the form of a guide receptacle or a guide rail. Such a mounting means is easy to manufacture. In addition, the guide means in the form of a guide receptacle or a guide rail can advantageously predetermine a preferably linear insertion direction of the grip part into the carrier element with the aid of the mounting means. The attachment of the handle part on the support element can be facilitated.

In addition, the invention can provide that a mounting means on a first holding means and / or on a second holding means of the grip part can have a bore which can serve as a cable holder. The bore can extend along the mounting means and accommodate different cables protected and bundled. The cables can lead to various sensors on the handle part, which can be provided for actuating the movable part. Thus, the mounting means can not only provide a positive guidance of the handle portion in the support member, but also fulfill another important function, namely to allow a bundled, protected guiding cables from the inside of the handle device behind the movable part to the outer handle part. As a result, in addition, the construction of the grip device can be considerably simplified, wherein the functionality of the grip device can be substantially improved at the same time.

In addition, the guide unit may have at least one latching means on a first holding means and / or on a second holding means of the grip part in order to fix a final assembly position of the grip part on the carrier element in a positive and / or non-positive manner. Thus, the installer can recognize the correct final assembly position of the handle on the support member by the locking means can deliver a clear tactile feedback to the fitter when reaching the final assembly position. It is also conceivable that the latching means may be in the form of a latching cam and / or a latching receptacle. Thus, the locking means can be easily configured. In addition, the latching means can cooperate with a simple complementary connection partner in order to fix the final assembly position of the handle part on the carrier element positively and / or non-positively. Furthermore, it is advantageous that the latching means can produce a certain guide resistance upon insertion of the grip part into the carrier element, shortly before the final assembly position has been reached. In order to achieve this final assembly position, the fitter must once again overcome the small guide resistance that is generated by the latching means. Based on the tactile feedback, the mechanic finally knows that he has reached the right final assembly position. Finally, the fitter can mechanically secure the handle part in the final assembly position, for example by a securing element, which can prevent forcible pulling out of the grip part from the carrier element.

It is also conceivable that the guide unit may have at least one fixing means at a first bearing point and / or at a second bearing point of the carrier element, wherein in particular the fixing means as a corresponding means for Locking means may be formed to produce a positive and / or non-positive connection with the locking means in the final assembly position of the handle part on the support element. Advantageously, the fixing means may be complementary to the locking means to fix the final assembly position of the handle portion on the support member positively and / or non-positively. In this case, it is conceivable that the fixing means may be designed in the form of a fixing receptacle and / or a fixing cam. Such a fixing is easy to form and can fix the final assembly position of the handle on the support member in cooperation with a corresponding locking means.

Furthermore, it is possible for the guide unit to have at least one pre-locking means on the first holding means and / or on the second holding means of the grip part and / or on the first bearing point and / or on the second bearing point of the carrier element in order to fix the fixing means to the first bearing position and / or. or at the second bearing point of the support element and / or the latching means on the first holding means and / or on the second holding means of the handle part during assembly of the handle part to the carrier element positively before the final assembly position of the handle part is achieved on the support element. Thus, the advantage can be achieved that during the insertion movement of the handle part in the support member, the locking means on the first holding means and / or on the second holding means of the handle part and / or the fixing means on the first bearing and / or on the second bearing point of the carrier element of a positive guide the handle part on the support element by the guide unit initially does not bother. Shortly before reaching a final assembly position of the handle part on the carrier element, the pre-locking means can end so that a guide resistance for the locking means and / or for the fixing means is provided. Thus, it can finally be effected in the final assembly position that the locking means with the fixing in a positive and / or non-positive connection, whereby the guide resistance is resolved and a haptic feedback can be generated to the fitter, which can mark the final assembly position.

Furthermore, it can be provided within the scope of the invention that the reinforcing element, in particular on a bearing arm, can have at least one pre-locking means in order to provide a fixing means at the first bearing point of the carrier element the assembly of the handle part on the carrier element to perform positively before the final assembly position of the handle part is achieved on the carrier element. The pre-locking means on the reinforcing element can pass into a pre-locking means on the first holding means in order to make no resistance to the fixing means at the first bearing point of the carrier element when the handle part is introduced into the carrier element. Thus, the reinforcing element may form part of the guide unit.

In addition, it may be provided in the context of the invention that the handle part, in particular a first holding means and / or a second holding means of the handle part, at least one connection means may have, which can cooperate with a securing element to the handle part in a final assembly position of the handle part on the support element to secure. In the final assembly position, the grip part is first held by the latching means and the fixing means on the carrier element, which produce a positive and / or non-positive connection with each other. By a forceful pulling or by centrifugal forces that may occur, for example, at high accelerations that can act opposite to the insertion of the handle on the support member, the positive and / or non-positive connection between the locking means and the fixing can be solved and the handle can again be removed from the support element. To prevent this, the handle part in the final assembly position can be positively and / or non-positively secured by the securing element, wherein the created positive and / or frictional connection can preferably act perpendicular to the insertion of the handle portion along the positive guide of the guide unit. In this case, the securing element can extend substantially along the grip part. By displacing the securing element along the gripping part, it can engage in the connecting means on the first holding means and / or on the second holding means of the gripping part, so that a movement of the gripping part perpendicular to the extension direction of the securing element is no longer possible because the securing element is in the way of such a movement , Consequently, the securing element can advantageously prevent the grip part from being withdrawn unauthorized and / or unintentionally back along the form-fitting guidance of the guide unit which was created for assembly. Advantageously, in the context of the invention, a securing element can be provided which can serve to secure the grip part in a final assembly position on the carrier element and / or the reinforcing element in the fastened state on the handle part, in particular by at least one connection means on the handle part. It is conceivable that the securing element may be formed into a part in the form of a securing plate and / or to another part of a securing fork. The safety fork can advantageously be designed for receiving and positive and / or non-positive locking of the handle part. The locking plate can be particularly easily and safely mounted on the support member and produce a high normal force against withdrawal of the handle portion of the support member. Thus, the handle can be secured in the final assembly position particularly simple and reliable. For receiving the securing element in the carrier element may be provided a flat elongated receptacle in which the securing element can be arranged longitudinally displaceable, in particular along its extension direction. In addition, it is conceivable that the securing element can be mounted longitudinally displaceable in the carrier element by means of an adjusting screw. By tightening the screw, the fuse element can be easily moved to secure the handle in the final assembly position against pulling out. Thus, a simple trained and secure in operation handle device can be created, which also can be easily mounted.

It is also conceivable that the gripping device can be formed as part of a locking system of the motor vehicle, in particular a keyless go system or a keyless entry system, wherein preferably at least one sensor element, preferably on the handle part, can be provided to the to move the movable part electronically. According to both alternatives, the sensor element may be designed accordingly, for example as a non-contact proximity sensor, a capacitive sensor or the like. Furthermore, it is conceivable that a security system for the locking system or at least one electronic unit for this purpose (as already mentioned) can be integrated with a corresponding transmitting and receiving unit for an identification query entirely or partially in the grip device, in particular in the grip part. It is advantageous that such a locking system automatically open and / or close the vehicle door during normal operation of the grip device without a mechanical lock cylinder can, if appropriate sensors were actuated in or on the door handle. Thus, a fully automated locking system for a motor vehicle, preferably with a fixed grip part, can be provided.

Furthermore, the object of the invention is achieved by a method for mounting a handle device to a movable part, in particular a door or a flap of a vehicle, with a, in particular fixed, handle part for actuating the movable part, and a support member for securing the handle on is performed on the support member, a lock cylinder for unlocking the movable part, at least in an emergency, and wherein the handle part, a reinforcing element is provided for the lock cylinder, which encloses the lock cylinder at least partially peripherally, wherein the reinforcing element in the handle part pre-assembled and is mounted with the handle part from the outside to the moving part. Furthermore, the lock cylinder can be preassembled in the carrier element and mounted with the carrier element from the inside of the movable part. In this case, the same advantages are achieved, which have been described above in connection with the gripping device according to the invention. To avoid repetition, reference is made in the present case in full.

Further measures and advantages and technical features of the invention will become apparent from the claims, the following description and the drawings. In this case, different features can be advantageous on their own and in any combination without departing from the scope of the invention. In the figures below, the gripping device according to the invention is shown in detail in several embodiments. Show it:

1 is a sectional view of a grip device according to the invention,

2 is a perspective view of a handle part according to the invention,

Fig. 3a is a perspective view of an inventive

Reinforcing element for a driver's door, 3b is a perspective view of an inventive

Reinforcing element for a passenger door,

Fig. 4a is a perspective view of an inventive

Reinforcing element in isolation,

Fig. 4b is a schematic representation of a handle part with an inventive

Fixing unit for receiving a reinforcing element,

5 shows a sectional view through a fastening unit according to the invention transversely to an extension direction of a grip part,

6a shows a sectional view through a fastening unit according to the invention along an extension direction of a grip part,

6b shows a sectional view through a fastening unit according to the invention along an extension direction of a grip part,

7a is a sectional view through a fastening unit according to the invention along a direction of extension of a handle part, and

7b shows a sectional view through a fastening unit according to the invention along a direction of extension of a grip part,

In the following figures, the identical reference numerals are used for the same technical features of different embodiments.

FIG. 1 shows a handle device 1 according to the invention for a movable part, in particular a door or a flap, of a motor vehicle, wherein the motor vehicle and the movable part as a whole are not shown as a whole for reasons of simplicity. The gripping device 1 is designed with a, preferably stationary, handle part 10 for actuating the movable part and a carrier element 20 for fastening the gripping part 10 on the movable part. On the support member 20 is a lock cylinder 23rd preassembled. On the handle part 10, a reinforcing element 13 is prefixed for the lock cylinder 23. The grip part 10 is arranged on the outside and the carrier element 20 on the inside on the movable part. By fastening the grip part 10 on the carrier element 20, the grip device 1 is mounted on the movable part.

According to the invention, the lock cylinder 23 can be preassembled on the carrier element 20 even before the handle part 10 and the carrier element 20 are joined, while the reinforcing element 13 for the lock cylinder 23, which can also be referred to as a so-called "socket", can be pre-attached to the handle part 10 , According to the invention, a fastening unit 30, for example in the form of a latching connection, is formed between the reinforcing element 13 and the grip part 10. To attach the handle device according to the invention 1 on the moving part of the vehicle, only two individually manageable units 10, 20 must be handled, namely on the one hand the support member 20 with pre-assembled lock cylinder 23 and on the other hand, the handle member 10 with already pre-fastened reinforcing member 13 for the lock cylinder 23rd In this case, the fitter can easily and conveniently grip on the carrier element 20 with one hand and on the handle part 10 with the other hand. By cooperation of the carrier element 20 and the handle part 10, these are mounted on the movable part. Thus, the assembly of the handle device 1 in only one assembly step, namely by carrying out only one plug movement of the handle part 10 on the carrier element 20 done. To secure the attachment of the two units 10, 20, namely the support member 20 and the handle portion 10, each other and thus the handle device 1 on the movable part, a securing element 60 can be subsequently placed, as shown in Figures 7a and 7b in the following. As a result, the handle device 1 is secured against loss on the movable part. The fastening unit 30 according to the invention thus enables a simplified mounting of the handle device 1 on the movable part.

As FIGS. 1 and 2 as well as FIGS. 7 a and 7 b further show, the lock cylinder 23 is arranged in the grip part 10 behind a cap 18. The cap 18 may serve to expose the lock cylinder 23 in an emergency. According to the invention, the grip part 10 may be formed as a fixed grip part 10. In order to operate the movable part without a relative movement of the handle part 10 to the movable part, the lock cylinder 23 can mechanically directly on a pawl in a door lock of the interact with the moving part. The lock cylinder 23 can thus not mechanically act with a central locking, but directly with the lock or the pawl. On the lock cylinder 23, a boom 24 can be further provided for a bearing bush 25. FIG. 2 schematically shows two closing positions I, II of the lock cylinder 23.

As FIG. 1 shows, the grip part 10 has a first holding means 11 and a second holding means 12 over its longitudinal extension L at opposite ends E1, E2. The first holding means 1 1 and the second holding means 12 are used for mechanical attachment of the handle portion 10 on the support member 20. Complementary to the first holding means 1 1 and the second holding means 12 corresponding openings are provided as bearing points 21, 22 in the support member 20, in which the first holding means 1 1 and the second holding means 12 can be accommodated. The first holding means 1 1 and the second holding means 12 are formed as linear projections or pins at the opposite ends E1, E2 of the handle portion 10, which project in a same direction from the handle portion 10 and are aligned substantially parallel to each other.

The carrier element 20 has a first bearing point 21 for the first holding means 1 1 of the grip part 10 and a second bearing point 22 for the second holding means 12 of the grip part 10. Together, the first bearing 21 and the first holding means 1 1 and the second bearing 22 and the second holding means 12 each have a guide unit 40. Thereby, the advantage can be achieved that the functionality of the handle device 1 can be extended with only a few means, the first bearing 21 and the first retaining means 1 1 and the second bearing 22 and the second holding means 12 as a part of the guide unit 40 not only for attachment of the handle portion 10 on the support member 20, but also for a simple, quick and correct installation of the handle device 1 am can contribute to moving part.

In one embodiment of the invention, which is shown for example in FIG. 3 a, the handle device 1 can be used on a driver's door. The reinforcing element 13 may be formed in the form of a solid collar element for the lock cylinder 23, which is the lock cylinder 23 in the assembled state of the handle device. 1 can surround peripherally. For this purpose, the reinforcing element 13 may have a, preferably cylindrical, receptacle 13a for the lock cylinder 23, as shown in FIG. 3a. Thus, the reinforcing element 13 according to the invention can enclose the lock cylinder 23 in such a way that there are hardly any points of attack on the lock cylinder 23 with any tools. Thus, the security against burglary can be increased in the grip device 1 according to the invention. It is also conceivable that the reinforcing element 13 may be formed of a metal, an alloy or a ZAMAK alloy.

In one embodiment of the invention, which is shown for example in the figure 3b, the handle device 1 can be used on a passenger door. The reinforcing element 13 may be formed in the form of a diaphragm 13b. It is conceivable that the reinforcing element 13 may be formed of a plastic, preferably as an injection molded part.

As can be seen by means of FIGS. 3a and 3b, the gripping device 1 according to the invention can be used both in a driver's door and in a passenger's door. Since passenger-door doors often do not incorporate a lock cylinder, there is no need to use a solid reinforcement element 13 so that lightweight materials such as light-weighted fasteners 13 can be used. a plastic, instead of hard and heavy materials, e.g. a ZAMAK alloy, for the reinforcing element 13 can be used. By the same shape of the reinforcing element 13 for the driver's door and the passenger door, but of different materials, a uniform appearance on the vehicle can be advantageously made possible.

As FIGS. 1, 2, 3a, 3b, 6a, 6b and 7a and 7b also show, a second fastening unit 50 can be provided between the carrier element 20 and the reinforcing element 13 in order to form the reinforcing element 13 in a positive and / or non-positive manner on the carrier element 20 to fix. The reinforcing element 13 can thus contribute to securing the grip part 10 to the carrier element 20. For this purpose, in the context of the second fastening unit 50, an elongated protruding rib with a groove-like guide 51 for receiving a corresponding, not shown in the figures, guide means be formed of the support member 20. Thus, the assembly of the handle device 1 can be further facilitated and advantageously carried out precisely.

As FIG. 4 a shows in the following, the reinforcing element 13 can be formed with a bearing arm 31 a as part of the fastening unit 30 according to the invention, which can be received on the grip part 10, in particular on a first retaining means 1 1, in a complementary bearing guide 31 b Bearing guide 31 b shown in Figure 4b. Between the bearing guide 31 b on the handle part 10 and the bearing arm 31 a on the reinforcing element 13, a positive and / or non-positive connection is made, as shown in Figures 3a, 3b, 5, 6a and 6b and 7a. Inserted in the bearing guide 31 b, the bearing arm 31 a with the first holding means 11 also form part of a guide unit 40.

Within the bearing arm 31a, a recess 36 may be provided for the purpose of material saving and weight reduction.

As can further be seen from FIGS. 4 a and 4 b, the reinforcing element 13 at the end of the bearing arm 31 a on a plateau 32 can have a bearing surface 32 a for a corresponding bearing side 32 b of the grip part 10, in particular of the first retaining means 11. In the fastened state of the reinforcing element 13 on the handle part 10, the support surface 32a of the reinforcing element 13 and the support side 32b of the handle part 10 are superimposed, as can be seen in the view of FIG. By abutment of the support side 32b of the grip part 10 on the bearing surface 32a of the reinforcing element 13, the end position of the reinforcing element 13 on the grip part 10 can be characterized.

As shown in FIG. 4 a, the bearing arm 31 a and the plateau 32 form an inverted T-piece to a surface 13 e of the reinforcing element 13. The surface 13 e of the reinforcing element 13 may preferably be adapted to the outer shape of the grip part 10. From the surface 13e of the reinforcing element 13 in the direction of the carrier element 20 extends a cylindrical receptacle 13a for the lock cylinder 23, which is formed with a lateral surface 13d. The lateral surface 13d can enclose the lock cylinder 23 and thus strengthen it. As FIGS. 4a and 4b further show, the reinforcing element 13 may have a positioning means 33a and the grip part 10, in particular the first retaining means 11, a positioning receptacle 33b. Conversely, however, it is likewise conceivable that a positioning means can be formed on the grip part 10 and a positioning receptacle on the reinforcing element 13. The positioning means 33a on the reinforcing element 13 and the positioning receiver 33b on the handle part 10 can engage in the fastened state of the reinforcing element 13 on the handle part 10, as shown in FIG. 6a in a sectional view through the fastening unit 30. Thus, the end position of the reinforcing element 13 on the handle portion 10 at least in a longitudinal direction L of the handle portion 10 form and / or hedged.

As FIGS. 4 a and 4 b further show, the reinforcing element 13 can have a stop opening 34 a and the grip part 10, in particular the first holding means 1 1, a stop means 34 b or vice versa, which mesh with the grip part 10 in the fastened state of the reinforcing element 13. By an interaction of the stop opening 34a with the stop means 34b, the end position of the reinforcing element 13 can be identified on the handle part 10 and form and / or hedged, as indicated in Figure 6b.

As can also be seen from FIG. 4b and FIG. 5, the reinforcing element 13 can have a latching element 35a and the grip part 10, in particular the first retaining means 11, a counter-latching element 35b which, in the fastened state, supports the reinforcing element 13 on the grip part 10, in particular can protect against pulling out, positive and / or non-positive. Thus, the end position of the reinforcing member 13 can be secured downwardly and away from the handle portion 10. The corresponding latching and counter-latching elements 35a, 35b on the reinforcing element 13 and on the handle part 10 thus serve to produce the positive and non-positive connection between the reinforcing element 13 and the handle part 10.

Figures 6a and 6b show the attachment unit 30 according to the invention only schematically, for example, a reinforcing element 13 in the form of a diaphragm 13b. The fastening unit 30 according to the invention can be designed according to a solid reinforcing element 13 may be formed with a receptacle 13a for the lock cylinder 23.

Furthermore, in the case of a gripping device 1, the invention can provide that the fastening unit 30 can form part of a guide unit 40 in order to guide the gripping part in an insertion direction E in a form-fit manner on assembly on the carrier element 20, preferably along a linear guide 40a, wherein the insertion direction E is shown in FIG. The guide unit 40 can be provided between the grip part 10 and the carrier element 20 and integrated in the grip device 1 (see a left end E2 and a right end E2 in FIG. The guide unit 40 can ensure a correct insertion movement of the handle part 10 into the carrier element 20 during assembly of the handle device 1. On the other hand, another advantage of the guide unit 40 is that the handle part 10 is passed in a form-fitting manner through the guide unit 40 along the correct insertion direction E, so that the handle part 10 can not tip over to the side. If the grip part 10 can therefore be easily inserted into the carrier element 20, the installer experiences a tactile feedback signal, which signals to him that the insertion direction E has been selected correctly and that he can continue with the assembly of the grip part 10. As FIG. 1 also shows, the guide unit 40 according to the invention provides a linear guide 40a for the grip part 10 on the carrier element 20. In each case a linear guide 40a can be provided at a left end E1 and at a right end E2 of the grip part 10. Thus, the handle member 10 can be inserted simultaneously with both ends E1, E2 on the carrier element 20 in only one assembly step and with the aid of only one insertion movement in a correct insertion direction E perpendicular to its extension direction L. The accuracy of the assembly can be tactilely monitored by the installer when the handle member 10 encounters little resistance in the, preferably linear, guide 40a during the insertion movement 20.

The guide unit 40 may comprise at least one mounting means 1 1 a, 12 a on the first holding means 1 1 and / or on the second holding means 12 of the handle portion 10 in a corresponding guide means 21 a, 22 a at the first bearing 21 and / or at the second bearing 22 of the support member 20 can be added. The mounting means 1 1 a, 12 a on the first holding means 1 1 and / or on the second holding means 12 may, for example, in the form of protruding ribs or guide receptacles be. Complementarily, the guide means 21 a, 22 a at the first bearing 21 and / or at the second bearing point 22 of the support member 20 may be conversely formed as a guide receptacles or as projecting ribs. Together, the mounting means 1 1 a, 12 a and the guide means 21 a, 22 a, a linear guide 40 a of the guide unit 40th

FIG. 2, on the one hand, and FIGS. 3a, 3b, 4b, 5 and 7b, on the other hand, show a possible embodiment of the gripping device 1 according to the invention, each with a latching means 11b, 12b on the first holding means 11 and / or on the second holding means 12 of the gripping part 10 The latching means 11 b, 12b serve to fix a final assembly position of the handle part 10 on the carrier element 20 in a positive and / or non-positive manner. Thus, the fitter can recognize the correct final assembly position of the handle portion 10 on the support member 20 when the locking means 1 1 b, 12b snap on reaching the final assembly position in specially formed fixing 21 b, 22b at the first bearing 21 and at the second bearing point 22 of the support member 20 , The locking means 1 1 b, 12 b and the fixing means 21 b, 22 b may be formed corresponding to each other as a cam or recordings.

Figures 2 and 7a further show that at least one mounting means 12a, for example. On the second holding means 12, the handle portion 10, a bore 12e may be provided, which may serve as a cable holder. The bore 12e may extend along the entire mounting means 12a and receive at least one cable 16 protected. The cable 16 can lead to a sensor element 17 on the handle part 10, which can be provided for actuating the movable part, for example for opening the movable part. Thus, the mounting means 12a not only provide for a positive guidance of the handle part 10 in the support member 20, but also fulfill another important function, namely a protected guiding at least one cable 16 from the interior of the handle device 1 behind the movable part to the outer handle part 10th ,

As FIG. 2 additionally shows, pre-locking means 11 c, 12c, 21c, 22c can be provided on the first holding means 11 and / or on the second holding means 12 of the grip part 10 in order to fix the respective fixing means 21b, 22b at the first Storage location 21 and / or at the second bearing point 22 of the support member 20 during assembly of the handle portion 10 on the support member 20 to lead positively before the final assembly position of the handle portion 10 is reached on the support member 20. Upon reaching the final assembly position of the handle part 10 on the carrier element 20, finally, the locking means 1 1 b, 12 b with corresponding fixing means 21 b, 22 b by a

Snap movement come in a positive and / or non-positive connection. The mechanic learns a snap action as a haptic feedback, which signals the final assembly position.

According to one embodiment of the invention, which is shown in FIG. 2, a pre-locking means 13c can be formed on the reinforcing element 13, which can transition into a pre-locking means 11c on the first retaining means 11 of the grip part 10.

As also indicated in FIGS. 2 and 7a, a seal 14, 15 can be provided at the first end E1 and at the second end E2 of the grip part 10, which can protect the interior of the grip part 10 from moisture and dirt. In the views of Figures 3a and 3b pin receptacles 14a are shown, which can serve for fastening a seal 14 at the first end E1 of the handle portion 10. At the second end E2 of the handle portion 10 corresponding pin receptacles for fixing a seal 15 are conceivable.

As also shown in FIGS. 2 and 7a and 7b, a connection means 11d, 12d is provided on the first holding means 11 and on the second holding means 12 of the grip part 10, which can cooperate with a securing element 60, which in FIGS. 7a and 7b is shown to secure the handle portion 10 in the final assembly position on the support member 20. In addition, a screw 61 for the securing element 60 is shown in Figures 2 and 7a and 7b, which stabilize the movement of the securing element 60 when moving the securing element 60 along the longitudinal direction L and / or can serve as a stop in an end position of the securing element 60.

Finally, FIGS. 7a and 7b show the grip part 10 secured by the securing element 60. For this purpose, the securing element 60 can be replaced by means of a securing element 60 Adjusting screw 62 are moved in a longitudinal direction L. The adjusting screw 62 can be tightened by turning in a direction of rotation D with respect to a nut 26, which can be attached to the support member 20. The securing element 60 may be formed in the middle in the form of a securing plate 60b and at the ends in the form of a securing fork 60a for the respective holding means 1 1, 12 on the handle part 10.

When moving the securing element 60 along the longitudinal direction L from left to right, a wider mounting opening 60c for the respective holding means 1 1, 12 at each fork-like end of the fuse element 60 in a narrower fuse opening 60 d pass, in each of which a connection means 11 d, 12 d of the first holding means 11 and the second holding means 12 of the handle part 10 can engage positively. Thereafter, a pulling out of the handle portion 10 perpendicular to the extension direction L of the securing element 60 is no longer possible because the securing element 60 is such a movement in the way. Consequently, the securing element 60 can prevent the grip part 10 from being pulled out unauthorized and / or unintentionally along the form-locking guide 40a of the guide unit 40 that was created for assembly. Thus, a simple, secure handle device 1 can be provided, which in addition can be easily mounted.

The above explanation of the embodiments describes the present invention solely by way of example. Of course, individual features of the present invention, if technically feasible, can be combined freely with one another without departing from the scope of the present invention / claims.

B ez u c se l i s te s

I handle device

10 handle part

I I first holding means

11a mounting means

11 b locking means

11c Vorrastmittel

11 d connection means

12 second holding means

12a mounting means

12b locking means

12c Vorrastmittel

12d connection means

12e hole

13 reinforcing element

13a recording

13b aperture

13c Vorrastmittel

13d lateral surface

13e surface

14 seal

14a pin recordings

15 seal

16 cables

17 sensor element

18 cap

20 carrier element

21 first depository 21 a Guide

21 b fixative

21 c Vorrastmittel

22 second depository

22a guide means

22b fixative

22c Vorrastmittel

23 lock cylinders

24 outriggers on the lock cylinder for a bearing bush

25 bearing bush

26 nut

30 fixing unit

31 a bearing arm

31 b warehouse management

32 plateau

32a bearing surface

32b edition side

33a positioning means

33b Positioning

34a stop opening

34b stop means

35a locking element

35b counter catch element

36 recess

40 guide unit

40a linear guide

50 second fastening unit

51 leadership

60 fuse element 60a safety fork

60b locking plate

60c mounting hole

60d fuse opening

61 screw

62 adjusting screw

A cutting direction along the first holding means

B cutting direction transverse to the first holding means

D Direction of rotation of the adjusting screw

E1 End of the handle

E2 end of the handle part

L extension direction, longitudinal direction

E insertion direction first closed position

II second closed position

Claims

Patent claims

1. handle device (1) for a movable part, in particular a door or a flap of a vehicle, with

a, in particular fixed, handle part (10) for actuating the movable part, a support member (20) for fixing the handle part (10) on the movable part, wherein the support member (20) has a lock cylinder (23) for unlocking the movable part at least in one Emergency can be arranged,

wherein on the handle part (10) a reinforcing element (13) is provided, in which the lock cylinder (23) is at least partially receivable,

and wherein a fastening unit (30) is provided between the grip part (10) and the reinforcing element (13) in order to fasten the reinforcing element (13) in a positive and / or non-positive manner to the grip part (10).

2. Handle device (1) according to claim 1,

characterized,

a lock cylinder (23) is arranged on the support element (20), wherein the reinforcement element (13) is designed in the form of a solid collar element for the lock cylinder (23) to at least the lock cylinder (23) in the assembled state of the grip device (1) Part circumferentially surround, in particular, the reinforcing element (13) has a, preferably cylindrical, receptacle (13a) for the lock cylinder (23),

wherein preferably the reinforcing element (13) made of a metal, an alloy or a ZAMAK alloy is formed.

3. Handle device (1) according to claim 1 or 2,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) is designed in the form of a panel (13b), wherein in particular the reinforcing element (13) is formed from a plastic, preferably as an injection-molded part.

4. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

a second fastening unit (50) is provided between the carrier element (20) and the reinforcing element (13) in order to secure the reinforcing element (13) to the carrier element (20) in a positive and / or non-positive manner.

5. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the fastening unit (30) forms part of a guide unit (40) which is designed in such a way as to guide the grip part (10) in a form-fitting manner during assembly on the carrier element (20),

wherein, in particular, the guide unit (40) is provided between the grip part (10) and the carrier element (20),

wherein preferably the guide unit (40) forms a linear guide for the grip part (10) during assembly on the carrier element (20).

6. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the grip part (10) has a first holding means (1 1) and a second holding means (12) in a longitudinal direction (L) at opposite ends (E1, E2),

wherein in particular the first retaining means (11) forms part of the fastening unit (30),

wherein preferably the first holding means (11) and the second holding means (12) are linear and preferably form part of the guide unit (40).

7. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) has a bearing arm (31 a) which forms part of the fastening unit (30),

wherein in particular the grip part (10), in particular the first retaining means (11), has a bearing guide (31 b),

wherein preferably the bearing guide (31 b) complementary to the bearing arm (31 a) is formed to produce a positive and / or non-positive connection of the handle part (10) with the reinforcing element (13).

8. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) has a bearing surface (32a) and the grip part (10), in particular the first retaining means (1 1), a bearing side (32b) which abut one another on the grip part (10) in the fastened state of the reinforcing element (13) ,

9. Gripping device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) has a positioning means (33a) and the grip part (10), in particular the first retaining means (11), a positioning receptacle (33b) which, at least in the fastened state, surrounds the reinforcing element (13) on the grip part (10) a form-fitting and / or non-positively secure a longitudinal direction (L) of the handle part (10).

10. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) has a stop opening (34a) and the gripping part (10), in particular the first holding means (11), a stop means (34b) which engage in the gripping part (10) in the fastened state of the reinforcing element (13).

1 1. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) has a latching element (35a) and the gripping part (10), in particular the first holding means (11), a counter-latching element (35b) which, in the fastened state, surrounds the reinforcing element (13) on the gripping part (10), in particular secure against pulling out, positive and / or non-positive.

12. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the carrier element (20) has a first bearing point (21) for the first holding means (11) of the grip part (10) and a second bearing point (22) for the second holding means (12) of the grip part (10),

wherein in particular the first bearing point (21) and the second bearing point (22) form part of the guide unit (40).

13. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the guide unit (40) has at least one mounting means (11a, 12a) on a first holding means (11) and / or on a second holding means (12) of the grip part (10), wherein in particular the mounting means (11a, 12a) in Form of a rib and / or a guide receptacle is formed.

14. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the guide unit (40) has at least one guide means (21a, 22a) at a first bearing point (21) and / or at a second bearing point (22) of the carrier element (20),

wherein in particular the guide means (21 a, 22 a) as a corresponding means for mounting means (1 1 a, 12 a) is formed in order to produce a positive connection of the handle part (10) with the carrier element (20),

wherein preferably the guide means (21a, 22a) is designed in the form of a guide receptacle or a guide rail.

15. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that a mounting means (11a, 12a) has a bore (12e) on a first holding means (11) and / or on a second holding means (12) of the grip part (10), which serves as a cable holder.

16. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the guide unit (40) has at least one latching means (11b, 12b) on a first holding means (11) and / or on a second holding means (12) of the gripping part (10) for a final assembly position of the gripping part (10) on the Carrier element (20) to fix positively and / or non-positively,

wherein in particular the latching means (1 1 b, 12 b) in the form of a latching cam and / or a latching receptacle is formed.

17. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the guide unit (40) has at least one fixing means (21b, 22b) at a first bearing point (21) and / or at a second bearing point (22) of the carrier element (20),

wherein in particular the fixing means (21 b, 22 b) as a corresponding means for locking means (1 1 b, 12 b) is formed to a positive and / or non-positive connection with the latching means (1 1 b, 12 b) in the final assembly position of the handle part (10) on the carrier element (20) produce,

wherein preferably the fixing means (21 b, 22 b) in the form of a fixing receptacle and / or a Fixiernockens is formed.

18. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13), in particular a bearing arm (31a), has a pre-locking means (13c) for fixing means (21b) to the first bearing point (21) of the carrier element (20) during assembly of the grip part (10) on the carrier element (20) form fit to lead before the final assembly position of the handle part (10) on the support element (20) is reached.

19. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the grip part (10), in particular a first retaining means (11) and / or a second retaining means (12) of the grip part (10), has at least one connection means (1 1 d, 12 d) which cooperates with a securing element (60), in order to secure the grip part (10) in a final assembly position of the grip part (10) on the carrier element (20) and / or the reinforcing element (13) in the fastened state on the grip part (10), in particular against being pulled out.

20. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

a securing element (60) is provided which, for securing the grip part (10) in a final assembly position on the carrier element (20) and / or the reinforcing element (13) in the fastened state on the grip part (10), in particular by at least one connection means (11 d , 12d) on the handle part (10), serves,

wherein in particular the securing element (60) has an area in the form of a securing plate (60b) and / or at least one area in the form of a securing fork (60a),

wherein preferably the securing element (60) by means of an adjusting screw (62) longitudinally displaceable in the carrier element (20) is mounted.

21. Handle device (1) according to one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

the grip device (1) is designed as part of a locking system of the vehicle, in particular a keyless go system or a keyless entry system,

wherein preferably a sensor element (17), preferably on the handle part (10), is provided to electronically actuate the movable part.

22. A method for mounting a handle device (1) on a movable part, in particular a door or a flap of a vehicle, with

a, in particular fixed, grip part (10) for actuating the movable part, and a carrier element (20) for fastening the grip part (10) to the movable part,

wherein a locking cylinder (23) is provided on the support element (20) for unlocking the movable part at least in an emergency,

and wherein a reinforcing element (13) for the lock cylinder (23) is provided on the grip part (10), which surrounds the lock cylinder (23) at least partially peripherally,

characterized,

in that the reinforcing element (13) is premounted in the grip part (10) and is mounted with the grip part (10) from the outside on the movable part.

23. Method according to the preceding claim,

characterized,

in that the lock cylinder (23) is preassembled in the carrier element (20) and is mounted with the carrier element (20) from the inside on the movable part.

24. The method according to any one of the preceding claims,

characterized,

in that the handle device (1) according to one of the preceding device claims serves to carry out the method according to one of the preceding method claims.