EP3396248B1 - Method for detecting defects in a gas safety valve of heating devices - Google Patents
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
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- the invention relates to a diagnostic option for detecting faults in a gas safety valve in heating devices.
- Burner systems for heating devices are monitored using so-called gas burner controls (GFA). If no flame is formed or detected after the ignition process, the GFA switches the heater into a fault state.
- GFA gas burner controls
- the patent application EP 0 778 448 A2 discloses a combustion control system for detecting an improper combustion condition.
- the delay during the ignition process is detected by means of a flow sensor for the combustion air or the fuel gas.
- the physical effect is used that a pressure wave spreads upstream in the gas and combustion air supply during ignition. If the measured flow rate falls below a specified value during ignition, correct ignition is assumed.
- the heater 1 shown (for example a gas condensing boiler) is equipped with a burner system in which the gas and the combustion air are brought together in front of a blower 2. This mixture is then transported by the blower 2 to the burner 3, where the combustion then takes place.
- a sensor 6 In the supply air duct 4 to the mixing point 5 of gas and air, a sensor 6 is attached, which gives an electrical signal proportional to the air flow to an electronic evaluation unit 7. In the event of a faulty ignition, this signal is evaluated by the evaluation electronics.
- the gradient of the sensor signal is evaluated.
- the sensor signal remains constant in the following seconds ( Fig. 2 ).
- a negative gradient of the order of, for example, up to 10% of the measured value occurs for a few seconds when the sensor signals less than 2s ( Fig. 3 ).
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Description
Die Erfindung betrifft eine Diagnosemöglichkeit zur Erkennung von Fehler an einem Gassicherheitsventil bei Heizgeräten.The invention relates to a diagnostic option for detecting faults in a gas safety valve in heating devices.
Brennersysteme von Heizgeräten werden mit Hilfe von sog. Gas-Feuerungsautomaten (GFA) überwacht. Wird nach dem Zündvorgang keine Flamme gebildet oder erkannt, schaltet der GFA den Heizer in einen Störzustand.Burner systems for heating devices are monitored using so-called gas burner controls (GFA). If no flame is formed or detected after the ignition process, the GFA switches the heater into a fault state.
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Die Patentanmeldung
Im Fall dass ein fehlender Gasfluss zum Brenner die Ursache für den Fehler ist, kann man nicht erkennen, ob dies auf ein nicht öffnendes Gassicherheitsventil zurückzuführen ist oder etwa ein Fehler in der Gaszuführung zum Heizgerät vorliegt. Oftmals werden in solchen Fällen intakte Gassicherheitsventile ausgetauscht.In the event that a lack of gas flow to the burner is the cause of the error, it cannot be recognized whether this is due to a non-opening gas safety valve or whether there is a fault in the gas supply to the heater. In such cases, intact gas safety valves are often replaced.
Diese Aufgabe wird gemäß den Merkmalen des Anspruchs 1 gelöst.This object is achieved according to the features of
Die Erfindung wird nun anhand der Figuren detailliert erläutert.The invention will now be explained in detail with reference to the figures.
Das in
In dem Zuluftkanal 4 zur Mischstelle 5 von Gas und Luft ist ein Sensor 6 angebracht, der ein dem Luftstrom proportionales elektrisches Signal an eine Auswertelektronik 7 gibt. Dieses Signal wird im Falle einer fehlerhaften Zündung von der Auswerteelektronik ausgewertet.In the
Anhand des Signalverlaufs während dieser Phase lässt sich erkennen:
- ob das
Gassicherheitsventil 8 geöffnet hat - ob der Gasfluss vor dem Heizgeräte gestört ist (z.B. durch Gasflussunterbrechung des in DE in der Hausinstallation hinter dem
Gaszähler 10 vorgeschriebenen Strömungswächters 9) - ob die Zündung des Gemisches am Brenner zwar erfolgreich war, aber der Gas-Feuerungsautomat die Flamme nicht als solche erkannt hat
- whether the
gas safety valve 8 has opened - whether the gas flow in front of the heater is disrupted (e.g. by interrupting the gas flow of the
flow switch 9 prescribed in the house installation behind the gas meter 10) - whether the ignition of the mixture on the burner was successful, but the automatic burner control did not recognize the flame as such
Um die verschiedenen Zustände zu erkennen, wird der Gradient des Sensorsignals bewertet.In order to recognize the different states, the gradient of the sensor signal is evaluated.
In den
Öffnet das Gassicherheitsventil nicht, bleibt das Sensorsignal in den folgenden Sekunden konstant (
Öffnet das Gasventil, aber in dem Gasweg vor dem Heizgerät liegt ein Fehler vor (z.B. ein schließender/geschlossener Strömungswächter), so kommt es bei Signal des Sensors für einige Sekunden zu einem negativen Gradienten in der Größenordnung von z.B. bis 10% des gemessenen Wertes innerhalb von weniger als 2s (
War die Zündung des Brenners erfolgreich, aber der Gas-Feuerungsautomat hat die Flamme nicht erkannt, so kommt es zu einem Signalgradienten von deutlich mehr als z.B. 20 % des gemessenen Wertes innerhalb von weniger als 2s (
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- ZuluftkanalSupply air duct
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- AuswertelektronikEvaluation electronics
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- GassicherheitsventilGas safety valve
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- StrömungswächterFlow switch
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- GaszählerGas meter
Claims (1)
- Method for detecting defects in a gas safety valve (8) of heating devices in the case of a faulty ignition, characterised by the steps- measuring the mass flow or volume flow of the combustion air supplied to a heating device (1) by means of a sensor (6)- forming the gradient of the measurement signal of the sensor (6)- assigning the course of the gradient to stored error images- recognising the error using the assigned gradient- outputting an error signal.
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