CN104849595A - Motorcycle charging and discharging detection method - Google Patents
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The invention discloses a motorcycle charging and discharging detection method. A charging detection combination, an AC 10A ammeter and a test lamp are included, wherein the charging detection combination is used for detecting whether charging and discharging are balanced; the AC 10A ammeter is used for detecting whether power generation amount of a magnetic motor stator coil is enough; and the test lamp is used for detecting whether electric leakage happens to the magnetic motor stator coil. The motorcycle charging and discharging detection method has the beneficial effects of quickly eliminating fault of the motorcycle charging and discharging system.
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Technical field
The present invention relates to the maintenance conditions of motorcycle charge-discharge system, is a kind of motorcycle discharge and recharge detection method concretely.
Background technology
Motorcycle use a period of time ubiquity because of magnetic field demagnetization, aging, the charging rectifier of power coil damage, aging circuit or bearing power use the discharge and recharge caused such as excessive uneven.Conventional Measuring error means, the overwhelming majority uses and changes part alternate form, and which is feasible, but wastes time and energy, and sometimes for no other reason than that electrical leakage problems and disorderly change part, causes unnecessary economic loss to client.
Summary of the invention
The object of the present invention is to provide a kind of motorcycle discharge and recharge detection method, there is the function easily getting rid of motorcycle charge-discharge system fault.
The present invention realizes with following technical scheme: the operation of this motorcycle discharge and recharge detection method comprises instrument charging detection combination, exchanges 10A reometer, tries lamp.Whether charging detection combination balances for detecting discharge and recharge, and exchange 10A reometer whether enough for the generated energy detecting Magnetor stator coil, whether examination lamp leaks electricity for detecting Magnetor stator coil.
Beneficial aspects of the present invention is, has the fault getting rid of motorcycle charge-discharge system fast.
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Motorcycle discharge and recharge detection method
1. the detection of half-wave stator coil: start motorcycle, with interchange 10A reometer as measurer, exchange two lines of 10A reometer, one is connected with the output line of coil, another root is connected with ground wire, open the throttle, the rotating speed of engine is made to reach about 4000 revs/min, the index of reometer should at more than 5A, show that stator coil generating is normal if reached, then show coil electric leakage or magnet steel loss of excitation lower than 5A, then do not mate with magnet steel for stator coil lower than 2A, output is 0 and represents stator coil open circuit or short circuit.
2. the detection of all-wave stator coil: start motorcycle, with interchange 10A reometer as measurer, exchange two lines of 10A reometer, be connected with two output lines of stator coil respectively, open the throttle, make the rotating speed of engine reach about 4000 revs/min, if reached, the index of reometer at more than 7A, should show that stator coil generating is normal; Try lamp lower than 7A to detect further, the clip of examination lamp is at the positive pole of accumulator, and test lead is inserted in any one of stator coil two output lines, and examination lamp is lighted, then show that stator coil leak electricity, tries lamp and does not work, then show magnet steel loss of excitation or stator coil less than normal; Then do not mate with magnet steel for stator coil lower than 2A, output is 0 and represents stator coil open circuit or short circuit.
3. the detection of threephase stator coil: start motorcycle, with interchange 10A reometer as measurer, exchange two lines of 10A reometer, be connected with any two of three output lines of stator coil respectively, open the throttle, the rotating speed of engine is made to reach about 4000 revs/min, the index of reometer should at more than 7A, two lines exchanging 10A reometer are connected with the another two groups of coils of three lines of stator coil, the index of reometer all must reach more than 7A, then show that stator coil generating is normal, wherein lower than 7A, any one group then shows that this coil has slight short circuit; Three-phase all tries lamp lower than 7A between phase and phase and detects further, and try the positive pole of clip at accumulator of lamp, test lead is inserted in any one of stator coil three output lines, examination lamp is lighted, then show that stator coil leaks electricity, examination lamp do not work, then show magnet steel loss of excitation or stator coil less than normal; Then do not mate with magnet steel for stator coil lower than 2A, output is 0 and represents stator coil open circuit or short circuit.
Half-wave and all-wave Magnetor stator coil with mating of magnet steel are: 1:1 structure, and namely stator coil has 4 groups, and magnet steel is 4 poles, stator coil is 6 groups, and magnet steel is 6 poles, and stator coil is 8 groups, then magnet steel is 8 poles, and the stator coil of 6 groups can not match with the magnet steel of 4 poles or 8 poles.Three-phase magneto stator coil with mating of magnet steel is: 2:3 structure, and namely stator coil has 8 groups, and magnet steel is 12 poles, stator coil is 12 groups, and magnet steel is 18 poles, and the stator coil of 8 groups can not match with the magnet steel of 18 poles, otherwise or occur electric current to swash, namely go up described in lower than 2A current phenomena.
The test of magnet steel number of poles: hand-held iron staff, the inner ring along magnet steel rotates, and with a circle for standard, has several blocks of magnet to be several poles magnet steel.
Magnetor stator coil is without short circuit, breaking phenomena, and magnet steel is without loss of excitation, simultaneously also normal with mating of magnet steel, but the current index of interchange 10A reometer is still lower than 2A, be then Magnetor stator coil-winding mistake.
Discharge examination
Accumulator fuse is taken off, two reometer lines of charging detection combination are connected with the two ends of fuse holder respectively, when closing switch, that observes the reometer in charging detection combination walks momentum, now, reometer is not walked about, if had, then show that this car has leak current fault, mainly contain following several situation:
A. rectifier electric leakage, the commutation diode mainly in rectifier damages.
B. the illuminating lamp Chang Liang of cushion case is generally that the luminous lamp switch in cushion case damages.
C. alarm electric leakage.
D. conventional DC lighter in-fighting.
After opening switch, walking about of reometer is large about about 1/4A, is used in the work requirements lighted neutral lamp or drive direct-current ignitor.If it is larger to walk momentum, at about 2A, be likely brake lamp often bright or other switch have slight short trouble.Just now said, after opening switch, reometer walk about at about 1/4A to be normal, to open Der StandlichtScheinwerfer und Parkleuchtenschalter, the pointer of the reometer of charging detection combination is walked about at about 4.3A, wherein headlight 35W, neutral lamp 3W, two instrument panel lamp 6W, night lamp 3W, rear taillight 5W, amount to: 52W.52W is divided by 12V, and institute's power consumption flow approximates about 4.3A.If electric current exceedes this scope, then there is following situation:
The wattage of a, night lamp is higher.
B, rear taillight and brake lamp are adjusted instead, the power just 5W of rear taillight, and brake lamp has 21W, and the power having had more 16W, 16W fully has the magnitude of current of 1.4A nearly.
C, headlight power are too high.
The charging of rectifier detects
The positive pole output line of rectifier and former fare road are disconnected, one, two reometer lines of charging detection combination are connected with the positive pole output line of rectifier, and another root is connected with former car gap line, start motorcycle, the amber light of charging detection combination is lighted and is extinguished a little while, and green light is lighted.If now discharged or defective battery is comparatively serious, at least need more than 3000 turns to work about 20 minutes, green light just can be lit.No matter under what circumstances, red colored lamp all can not be lit, otherwise represents that charging voltage is too high, and dry type accumulator can be caused to expand, and the evaporation of wet storage battery distilled water is too fast, if red colored lamp is lighted or voltage table more than 16V, there is this situation, have two kinds possible.
A kind of situation is: the ground strap of rectifier does not have reliable loop to the negative pole of accumulator, voltage stabilization part is caused to lose efficacy or precision of voltage regulation reduction, because too high voltage must carry out short circuit by ground wire, namely carry out cascading water by ground wire, form voltage stabilizing, if ground wire is removed, just become without stabilized rectifier;
Another kind of situation is: the 12V voltage of accumulator does not arrive the sample of signal line of rectifier, causes rectifier to take for battery tension on the low side, cause rectifier always with maximum power to charge in batteries.Sample of signal line is mainly at the voltage of detection accumulator, when the voltage of signal wire and the setting value of rectifier consistent time, rectifier, by the unnecessary electric energy shorted to earth of ground bundle of lines, forms voltage stabilizing, be no matter the stabilized rectifier of which kind of type, his voltage stabilizing value is preferably between 14.8 ~ 15.2V.The charging current of three phase generator is minimum all at more than 12A, and when meeting first and second point and voltage, accumulator is power shortage never.Power shortage vehicle mainly concentrates on, on single-phase half-wave and single-phase full wave generator.The charging current of single-phase half-wave is at about 2A, the charging current of single-phase full wave is at about 7A, only when discharged or defective battery or electric discharge, rectifier just with maximum electric current to accumulator makeup energy, when accumulator is close to full electricity time, the electric current that rectifier supplements accumulators is more and more less, until stop.
Calculate the ratio of charging current and discharge current
Charging current deducts discharge current and equals electric current more than needed, and during more than 3500 turns, engine, electric current more than needed is greater than 2.5A, could effectively give accumulator makeup energy.Meanwhile, also in time supply steering indicating light, brake lamp, loudspeaker, if the magnitude of current more than needed is not enough, be difficult to demand when ensureing the startup of motor big current.Exchanging illumination institute power consumption stream is magneto generator power supply, even if open lamp, rectifier is still to accumulator makeup energy.But DC lighting is just different, when magneto generator generate electricity can, when not exceeding bearing power, accumulator discharges.Only along with the increase of rotating speed, the raising of generated output, beyond electric current needed for load, residual current could supplement to accumulator.This some, by the reometer of charging detection combination, can express very intuitively.When vehicle does not start, open headlight, the pointer of reometer at negative about 4.3A, after starting vehicle, pointer is at negative about 2A, along with the increase of rotating speed, the magnitude of current also increases thereupon, when the rotating speed of engine rises to more than 3500 turns, now, electric current pointer should at positive more than 2.5A, and voltage table pointer, at more than 13.5V, reaches these two standard storage battery never power shortage.
Line loss or the excessive impact on electric current of resistance
A, rectifier minus earth line, do not have reliable loop to cause the negative pole of accumulator, causes voltage-stabilizing system cascading water abnormal, cause charging voltage too high; Otherwise the electrode line of rectifier, is connected to the positive terminal of accumulator, if blade contact is bad in the middle of this root line, or copper core is partially thin, and by causing, the cathode voltage of brushend is normal, but the low voltage that accumulator positive is extreme, accumulator can not be filled completely, is in semi-saturation state.
The copper sleeve loose contact of b, accumulator or oxidation, simultaneously the negative pole of accumulator and engine loose contact, form resistance, causes big current not by, motor because the magnitude of current but, causes electric difficulty in starting or can not electricity startup.Time more serious, engine idle will be caused normal, but engine does not add speed, now, if brake or open headlight, engine operation recovers again normal.
Excessive or the rosin joint of fuse resistance, turn on light evening electricity consumption time, the magnitude of current is larger, because fuse rosin joint causes heating, cause fuse half open circuit, or resistance is excessive, causing riding evening, it is too little to charge or charge.This kind of fault, general voltage, electric current all reach setting, and mainly because fuse resistance is excessive or rosin joint, the charging current caused can not, completely by fuse, make charging not reach requirement.
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1. a motorcycle discharge and recharge detection method, tool concrete operation step is as follows:
discharge examination
Accumulator fuse is taken off, two reometer lines of charging detection combination are connected with the two ends of fuse holder respectively, when closing switch, that observes the reometer in charging detection combination walks momentum, now, reometer is not walked about, if had, then show that this car has leak current fault, mainly contain following several situation:
A. rectifier electric leakage, the commutation diode mainly in rectifier damages,
B. the illuminating lamp Chang Liang of cushion case is generally that the luminous lamp switch in cushion case damages,
C. alarm electric leakage,
D. conventional DC lighter in-fighting,
After opening switch, reometer walk about at about 1/4A, be used in and light neutral lamp or drive the work requirements of direct-current ignitor; If it is larger to walk momentum, at about 2A, be brake lamp often bright or other switch have slight short trouble, after opening switch, reometer to walk about at about 1/4A be normal, open Der StandlichtScheinwerfer und Parkleuchtenschalter, the pointer of the reometer of charging detection combination is walked about at about 4.3A, wherein headlight 35W, neutral lamp 3W, two instrument panel lamp 6W, night lamp 3W, rear taillight 5W, amounts to: 52W; 52W divided by 12V, institute power consumption flow about 4.3A; If electric current exceedes this scope, then there is following situation:
A. the wattage of night lamp is higher,
B. rear taillight and brake lamp are adjusted instead, and the power of rear taillight is 5W, and the power of brake lamp is 21W, and the power having had more 16W, 16W has the magnitude of current of 1.4A nearly,
C. headlight power is too high,
the charging of rectifier detects
The positive pole output line of rectifier and former fare road are disconnected, one, two reometer lines of charging detection combination are connected with the positive pole output line of rectifier, and another root is connected with former car gap line, start motorcycle, the amber light of charging detection combination is lighted and is extinguished a little while, and green light is lighted; If now discharged or defective battery is comparatively serious, need more than 3000 turns and work about 20 minutes, green light just can be lit; Red colored lamp can not be lit, otherwise represents that charging voltage is too high, and dry type accumulator can be caused to expand, and the evaporation of wet storage battery distilled water is too fast, if red colored lamp is lighted or voltage table more than 16V, there is this situation, have two kinds possible;
A kind of situation is: the ground strap of rectifier does not have reliable loop to the negative pole of accumulator, voltage stabilization part is caused to lose efficacy or precision of voltage regulation reduction, because too high voltage must carry out short circuit by ground wire, namely carry out cascading water by ground wire, form voltage stabilizing, if ground wire is removed, just become without stabilized rectifier;
Another kind of situation is: the 12V voltage of accumulator does not arrive the sample of signal line of rectifier, rectifier is caused to take for battery tension on the low side, cause rectifier always with maximum power to charge in batteries, sample of signal line is mainly at the voltage of detection accumulator, when the voltage of signal wire and the setting value of rectifier consistent time, rectifier passes through the unnecessary electric energy shorted to earth of ground bundle of lines, form voltage stabilizing, it is no matter the stabilized rectifier of which kind of type, the voltage stabilizing value of rectifier is between 14.8 ~ 15.2V, the charging current of three phase generator is at more than 12A, when meeting first and second point and voltage, accumulator can not power shortage, power shortage vehicle mainly concentrates on, on single-phase half-wave and single-phase full wave generator, the charging current of single-phase half-wave is at about 2A, the charging current of single-phase full wave is at about 7A, only when discharged or defective battery or electric discharge, rectifier just with maximum electric current to accumulator makeup energy, when accumulator is close to full electricity time, the electric current that rectifier supplements accumulators is more and more less, until stop,
calculate the ratio of charging current and discharge current
Charging current deducts discharge current and equals electric current more than needed, during more than 3500 turns, engine, electric current more than needed should be greater than 2.5A, could effectively give accumulator makeup energy, simultaneously, also in time supply steering indicating light, brake lamp, loudspeaker, if the magnitude of current more than needed is not enough, be difficult to demand when ensureing the startup of motor big current, exchanging illumination institute power consumption stream is magneto generator power supply, in the situation of turning on light, rectifier is still to accumulator makeup energy, DC lighting is different, when magneto generator generate electricity can, when not exceeding bearing power, accumulator is electric discharge, only along with the increase of rotating speed, the raising of generated output, beyond electric current needed for load, residual current could supplement to accumulator, by the reometer of charging detection combination, above-mentioned situation can be showed, when vehicle does not start, open headlight, the pointer of reometer is at negative about 4.3A, after starting vehicle, pointer is at negative about 2A, along with the increase of rotating speed, the magnitude of current also increases thereupon, when the rotating speed of engine rises to more than 3500 turns, now, electric current pointer should at positive more than 2.5A, voltage table pointer is at more than 13.5V, reaching these two standard storage battery can not power shortage,
line loss or the excessive impact on electric current of resistance
A. rectifier minus earth line, does not have reliable loop to cause the negative pole of accumulator, causes voltage-stabilizing system cascading water abnormal, causes charging voltage too high; Otherwise the electrode line of rectifier, is connected to the positive terminal of accumulator, if blade contact is bad in the middle of this root line, or copper core is partially thin, by causing, the cathode voltage of brushend is normal, but the low voltage that accumulator positive is extreme, accumulator can not be filled completely, is in semi-saturation state
B. the copper sleeve loose contact of accumulator or oxidation, the simultaneously negative pole of accumulator and engine loose contact, formation resistance, cause big current not by, motor is because the magnitude of current but, causes electric difficulty in starting or can not start, time more serious by electricity, engine idle will be caused normal, but engine does not add speed, now, if brake or open headlight, engine operation recovers again normal
C. the excessive or rosin joint of fuse resistance, turn on light evening electricity consumption time, the magnitude of current is larger, because fuse rosin joint causes heating, cause fuse half open circuit, or resistance is excessive, causing riding evening, it is too little to charge or charge, this fault, general voltage, electric current all reach setting, mainly because fuse resistance is excessive or rosin joint, the charging current caused can not, completely by fuse, make charging not reach requirement.
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