WO2012149428A3 - Systems and methods for g.vector initialization - Google Patents

Systems and methods for g.vector initialization Download PDF

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WO2012149428A3
WO2012149428A3 PCT/US2012/035600 US2012035600W WO2012149428A3 WO 2012149428 A3 WO2012149428 A3 WO 2012149428A3 US 2012035600 W US2012035600 W US 2012035600W WO 2012149428 A3 WO2012149428 A3 WO 2012149428A3
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orthogonal pilot
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Amitkumar Mahadevan
Kevin D. Fisher
Nicholas P. Sands
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Ikanos Communications, Inc.
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Priority to EP12776439.7A priority patent/EP2702739B1/en
Priority to CN201280020817.4A priority patent/CN103503398B/en
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    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04M—TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04M11/00—Telephonic communication systems specially adapted for combination with other electrical systems
    • H04M11/06—Simultaneous speech and data transmission, e.g. telegraphic transmission over the same conductors
    • H04M11/062—Simultaneous speech and data transmission, e.g. telegraphic transmission over the same conductors using different frequency bands for speech and other data
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L65/00—Network arrangements, protocols or services for supporting real-time applications in data packet communication
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04B—TRANSMISSION
    • H04B3/00—Line transmission systems
    • H04B3/02—Details
    • H04B3/32—Reducing cross-talk, e.g. by compensating
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L69/00—Network arrangements, protocols or services independent of the application payload and not provided for in the other groups of this subclass
    • H04L69/14—Multichannel or multilink protocols
    • H—ELECTRICITY
    • H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
    • H04L—TRANSMISSION OF DIGITAL INFORMATION, e.g. TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION
    • H04L7/00—Arrangements for synchronising receiver with transmitter

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Methods, apparatuses (e.g., DSL system hardware, DSL systems, vectoring control entities), techniques, systems, etc. are used for initializing one or more DSL lines joining a vectored DSL line group operating in Showtime. A super-periodic orthogonal pilot sequence from a set of super-periodic orthogonal pilot sequences is assigned to each joining DSL line, wherein each such super-periodic orthogonal pilot sequence in the set has length L and is orthogonal to other sequences in the set over length T. These super-periodic orthogonal pilot sequences are used on the joining DSL lines to generate at least T sync-symbols worth of initialization data, which is processed to generate initialization data and FEXT mitigation coefficients for use when the joining DSL lines become part of the vectored DSL line group.
PCT/US2012/035600 2011-04-27 2012-04-27 Systems and methods for g.vector initialization WO2012149428A2 (en)

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JP2014508140A JP5989093B2 (en) 2011-04-27 2012-04-27 G. System and method for VECTOR initialization
KR1020137029862A KR101658971B1 (en) 2011-04-27 2012-04-27 Systems and methods for G.vector initialization
EP12776439.7A EP2702739B1 (en) 2011-04-27 2012-04-27 Systems and methods for g.vector initialization
CN201280020817.4A CN103503398B (en) 2011-04-27 2012-04-27 Systems and methods for G.vector initialization

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