JPH0261573A - Correction of parasitic capacitance or the like in iron loss measuring system - Google Patents

Correction of parasitic capacitance or the like in iron loss measuring system

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JPH0261573A
JPH0261573A JP21207088A JP21207088A JPH0261573A JP H0261573 A JPH0261573 A JP H0261573A JP 21207088 A JP21207088 A JP 21207088A JP 21207088 A JP21207088 A JP 21207088A JP H0261573 A JPH0261573 A JP H0261573A
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iron loss
parasitic capacitance
magnetic core
data
induced voltage
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Akira Sakaki
榊 陽
Toshiro Sato
敏郎 佐藤
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RYOWA DENSHI KK
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PURPOSE:To obtain a true induced voltage value by correcting a measuring data shown on a measuring device by a parasitic capacitance data stored. CONSTITUTION:When measuring an iron loss, values of parasitic capacitances or the like of an impedance of a cable and a jig are measured to be stored into a storage means. Then, actually, a magnetic core to be measured is excited to detect a voltage drop of a shunt device due to a secondary side induced voltage and a primary side excited current and a data obtained is corrected to a true value using the data stored previously. This enables measurement of a correct iron loss by determining true values of the secondary side induced voltage and the primary side excited current irrespective to the length of a cable for detection and up to a high frequency band.

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【発明の詳細な説明】 (産業上の利用分野) 本発明は磁心の鉄損を計測する鉄損計測システムにおけ
る寄生容量等の補正方法に関する。
DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE INVENTION (Field of Industrial Application) The present invention relates to a method for correcting parasitic capacitance, etc. in an iron loss measurement system that measures iron loss of a magnetic core.

(従来技術) 従来、鉄損計測システムは、第3図に示す如く、磁心1
に巻回されてこの磁心lを励磁する1次巻線2に電圧を
印加し、1次巻線に直列接続された電流検出用抵抗器3
に1次電流を流し、磁心1に巻回された2次巻線4に誘
起される2次誘起電圧Esと、1次電流■、と、電流検
出用抵抗器3の電圧降下■、・R3と、同軸ケーブル4
a、4bの電圧降下とをそれぞれ各別に測定器6に供給
し、2次誘起電圧E1と電圧降下!、・Rsとから磁心
1の鉄損を計測することが行われている。ここで、■、
は1次電流値を、Rsは電流検出用抵抗器3が呈するイ
ンピーダンスを示している。すなわち、鉄損は、・・・
(1) で計算される。ここで、Nlは1次巻線の巻回数ε、N
2は2次巻線の巻回数ε、Voは磁心の体積を示してい
る。
(Prior art) Conventionally, as shown in Fig. 3, iron loss measurement systems have
A voltage is applied to the primary winding 2 which is wound around the magnetic core l to excite the magnetic core l, and a current detection resistor 3 is connected in series to the primary winding.
When a primary current is passed through, the secondary induced voltage Es induced in the secondary winding 4 wound around the magnetic core 1, the primary current ■, and the voltage drop of the current detection resistor 3 ■, ・R3 and coaxial cable 4
The voltage drops of a and 4b are separately supplied to the measuring device 6, and the secondary induced voltage E1 and the voltage drop! , ·Rs to measure the iron loss of the magnetic core 1. Here,■,
represents the primary current value, and Rs represents the impedance exhibited by the current detection resistor 3. In other words, the iron loss is...
(1) Calculated as follows. Here, Nl is the number of turns ε of the primary winding, N
2 represents the number of turns ε of the secondary winding, and Vo represents the volume of the magnetic core.

然しなから、検出される電圧信号を測定器6に伝送する
際、その周波数が非常に高く、あるいは伝送ケーブルが
長かったりすると、治具、ケーブル等の寄生容量によっ
て電圧信号の大きさや位相が変化し、得られる鉄損値に
誤差が生ずる。
However, when transmitting the detected voltage signal to the measuring instrument 6, if the frequency is very high or the transmission cable is long, the magnitude and phase of the voltage signal may change due to the parasitic capacitance of the jig, cable, etc. However, an error occurs in the obtained iron loss value.

従来、この誤差を可及的に少なくするためにケーブルの
長さを短くし、あるいは測定周波数も、例えば、数MH
z等低く抑える努力がなされてきた。このため、試料を
恒温槽等に入れる必要のある場合に、ケーブルの長さが
大きくなると誤差が増大し、あるいは使用する周波数も
少なくとも1桁下げて使用せざるを得ない等の不都合が
ある。
Conventionally, in order to reduce this error as much as possible, the length of the cable was shortened, or the measurement frequency was also reduced, for example, to several MHz.
Efforts have been made to keep z low. For this reason, when it is necessary to put a sample in a thermostatic oven or the like, there are inconveniences such as increasing the length of the cable, increasing errors, or forcing the frequency to be lowered by at least one order of magnitude.

(発明が解決しようとする課題) 本発明は前記の不都合を克服するためになされたもので
あって、鉄損を測定する際、ケーブルが相当に長い場合
であってもケーブルのインピーダンスを治具の寄生容量
等の値を測定し記憶手段に記憶しておき、次に、実際に
被測定用の磁心を励磁し、2次側誘起電圧および1次側
励磁電流による分流器の電圧降下を検出し、得られた当
該データを先に記憶しておいたデータを用いて、真の値
に補正するようにしている。
(Problem to be Solved by the Invention) The present invention has been made to overcome the above-mentioned disadvantages, and when measuring iron loss, the impedance of the cable is measured using a jig even when the cable is quite long. Measure the values of parasitic capacitance, etc. of Then, the obtained data is corrected to the true value using previously stored data.

従って、これによって、例えば、恒温槽塩ケーブルを連
結しても十分測定精度が得られ、また測定上限周波数も
さほどに低く抑制する必要はない。
Therefore, for example, even if a constant temperature bath salt cable is connected, sufficient measurement accuracy can be obtained, and there is no need to suppress the upper limit frequency of measurement to be so low.

(課題を解決するための手段) 前記の目的を達成するために、本発明は鉄損被測定磁性
体としての磁心に巻回された2次巻線の誘起電圧と、前
記磁心を励磁するためにその磁心に巻回された1次巻線
に直列接続された励磁電流検出用の抵抗により生ずる電
圧降下とを測定することにより前記磁心の鉄損を演算す
る鉄損計測システムにおいて、試料、治具、配線、信号
伝送ケーブルおよび測定器等の少なくともいずれか1つ
が有する寄生容量データおよび/またはインピーダンス
データを得て予め記憶手段に記憶しておき、測定器に示
された測定データを前記記憶された寄生容量データおよ
び/またはインピーダンスデータで補正することにより
前記試料等に対する真の誘起電圧あるいは電流値を得る
ことを特徴とする。
(Means for Solving the Problems) In order to achieve the above-mentioned object, the present invention provides a method for controlling the induced voltage of a secondary winding wound around a magnetic core as a magnetic body to be measured for iron loss, and for exciting the magnetic core. In an iron loss measurement system that calculates the iron loss of the magnetic core by measuring the voltage drop caused by the excitation current detection resistor connected in series with the primary winding wound around the magnetic core, Parasitic capacitance data and/or impedance data possessed by at least one of the equipment, wiring, signal transmission cable, measuring instrument, etc. is obtained and stored in advance in a storage means, and the measurement data shown on the measuring instrument is stored in the storage means. The method is characterized in that the true induced voltage or current value for the sample or the like is obtained by correcting the parasitic capacitance data and/or impedance data.

(実施態様) 次に、本発明に係る鉄損計測システムにおける寄生容量
等の補正方法について好適な実施態様を挙げ、添付の図
面を参照して詳細に説明する。
(Embodiments) Next, preferred embodiments of a method for correcting parasitic capacitance and the like in the iron loss measurement system according to the present invention will be described in detail with reference to the accompanying drawings.

(1)ケーブルインピーダンスおよび寄生容量の信号伝
送特性への影響の補正について 先ず、2次誘起電圧の補正方法について述べる。第1図
は第3図の中、2次誘起電圧の測定の説明に必要な部分
を示したものである。図において、之。、之i、、、之
。およびケーブルの特性は既知であるので、これらを予
め測定器内部の記憶部にデータとして入力しておく。こ
れらの人力されたデータに基づいて得られる信号の振幅
と位相の変化分を測定値9□に加えれば真の誘起電圧t
2を容易に求めることができる。
(1) Regarding correction of the influence of cable impedance and parasitic capacitance on signal transmission characteristics First, a method of correcting secondary induced voltage will be described. FIG. 1 shows a portion of FIG. 3 that is necessary for explaining the measurement of secondary induced voltage. In the figure. , no i,,, no. Since the characteristics of the cable and cable are known, these are input in advance as data into the storage section inside the measuring instrument. By adding the changes in the amplitude and phase of the signal obtained based on these manually inputted data to the measured value 9□, the true induced voltage t
2 can be easily obtained.

分流器の電圧降下之ss  isの伝送に際しても全く
同様であり、真のi、を容易に知ることができる。
The same is true when transmitting the voltage drop of the shunt, ss is, and the true i can be easily determined.

(2)真の励磁電流の検出法について 第2図は磁心1の1次コイルに流入する実際の電流がど
のように各部を流れるか示したもので、ここではどのよ
うにして、真の励磁電流I0を求めることが出来るかを
示している。前項で求めた之S%ISを用いると ls が求まるが、真の励磁インピーダンス とは若干具なっている。従って、以下の式により之′、
から之、を求める。
(2) How to detect the true excitation current Figure 2 shows how the actual current flowing into the primary coil of the magnetic core 1 flows through each part. This shows whether the current I0 can be determined. Using the S%IS obtained in the previous section, ls can be obtained, but it is slightly different from the true excitation impedance. Therefore, by the following formula,
karano, seek.

なお、上記(5)式において()内は第1図より次のよ
うになる。
In addition, in the above equation (5), the values in parentheses are as follows from FIG.

・・・(6) これから すなわち、 となり、真の励磁電流はl0=aE2 /之、として求
めることができる。以上の過程はすべて既知のインピー
ダンスの値を予め測定器6の記憶部に人力し、このデー
タに基づいて演算すればよい。好ましくは、この演算は
コンビ二一夕で容易に可能である。
...(6) From this, it becomes as follows, and the true excitation current can be obtained as l0=aE2/. All of the above processes can be performed by manually inputting known impedance values into the storage section of the measuring device 6 in advance and calculating based on this data. Preferably, this calculation can be easily performed by a combi-secondary operator.

(3)鉄損値の算出 そこで、前記(1)、(2)により企z、loO値が求
まると、両者の位相差φも定まるので、鉄損値Wは次式 %式% を用いて直ちに算出可能である。
(3) Calculation of iron loss value Then, when the values of z and loO are determined by the above (1) and (2), the phase difference φ between the two is also determined, so the iron loss value W is calculated using the following formula % formula % It can be calculated immediately.

[発明の効果] 以上のように、本発明によれば、被測定磁心の2次誘起
電圧および1次励磁電流の真の値を検出用ケーブル長さ
と無関係に且つ高周波数帯域に至るまで求めることがで
き、正確な鉄損の測定を行うことが可能となる効果が得
られる。
[Effects of the Invention] As described above, according to the present invention, the true values of the secondary induced voltage and the primary excitation current of the magnetic core to be measured can be determined regardless of the length of the detection cable and even in a high frequency band. This has the effect of making it possible to accurately measure iron loss.

しかも、演算装置としてコンピュータを用いれば、取り
扱いに簡便で且つ迅速、正確な値の算出が可能である。
Moreover, if a computer is used as the arithmetic device, it is easy to handle, and it is possible to quickly and accurately calculate values.

以上、本発明について好適な実施態様を挙げて説明した
が、本発明はこの実施態様に限定されるものではなく、
本発明の要旨を逸脱しない範囲において種々の改良並び
に設計の変更が可能なことは勿論である。
Although the present invention has been described above with reference to preferred embodiments, the present invention is not limited to these embodiments.
Of course, various improvements and changes in design are possible without departing from the gist of the present invention.

【図面の簡単な説明】[Brief explanation of the drawing]

第1図は本発明に係る補正方法を実施する際の2次巻線
から測定器への信号伝送路に対する回路説明図、 第2図は本発明に係る補正方法を用いて鉄損値を得るた
めの等価回路図、 第3図は従来技術に係る鉄損測定値のブロック図である
Fig. 1 is an explanatory diagram of the circuit for the signal transmission path from the secondary winding to the measuring device when implementing the correction method according to the present invention, and Fig. 2 shows the iron loss value obtained using the correction method according to the present invention. Fig. 3 is a block diagram of iron loss measurement values according to the prior art.

Claims (2)

【特許請求の範囲】[Claims] (1)鉄損被測定磁性体としての磁心に巻回された2次
巻線の誘起電圧と、前記磁心を励磁するためにその磁心
に巻回された1次巻線に直列接続された励磁電流検出用
の抵抗により生ずる電圧降下とを測定することにより前
記磁心の鉄損を演算する鉄損計測システムにおいて、試
料、治具、配線、信号伝送ケーブルおよび測定器等の少
なくともいずれか1つが有する寄生容量データおよび/
またはインピーダンスデータを得て予め記憶手段に記憶
しておき、測定器に示された測定データを前記記憶され
た寄生容量データおよび/またはインピーダンスデータ
で補正することにより前記試料等に対する真の誘起電圧
あるいは電流値を得ることを特徴とする鉄損計測システ
ムにおける寄生容量等の補正方法。
(1) The induced voltage in the secondary winding wound around the magnetic core as the magnetic body to be measured for iron loss, and the excitation voltage connected in series to the primary winding wound around the magnetic core to excite the magnetic core. In an iron loss measurement system that calculates the iron loss of the magnetic core by measuring the voltage drop caused by a current detection resistor, at least one of the sample, jig, wiring, signal transmission cable, measuring instrument, etc. Parasitic capacitance data and/or
Alternatively, by obtaining impedance data and storing it in advance in a storage means, and correcting the measurement data shown on the measuring device with the stored parasitic capacitance data and/or impedance data, the true induced voltage or A method for correcting parasitic capacitance, etc. in an iron loss measurement system characterized by obtaining a current value.
(2)請求項1記載の方法において、試料等の予め得ら
れた寄生容量データおよび/またはインピーダンスデー
タを用いて被測定磁性体としての磁心の励磁インピーダ
ンスを求めることにより励磁電流の真の値を得ることを
特徴とする鉄損計測システムにおける寄生容量等の補正
方法。
(2) In the method according to claim 1, the true value of the excitation current is determined by determining the excitation impedance of the magnetic core as the magnetic substance to be measured using parasitic capacitance data and/or impedance data obtained in advance of the sample, etc. A method for correcting parasitic capacitance, etc. in an iron loss measurement system, characterized in that:
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