GB2168819A - Determining the torque applied by a motor or engine to a rotating load - Google Patents
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Abstract
For the determination of the torque which is applied by a motor 1 or an i.c. engine to a rotating load 4, the change of the motor driving moment in dependence on the value of a measurable operational parameter, such as the motor current of an electric motor, measured at 5 in Figure 2, or the intake pressure of an i.c. engine, is stored in a memory 13; speeds are measured e.g. by counters 8, 9 after predetermined intervals of time controlled by a clock 10, the difference between each two consecutive speed measurements, is formed at 11 and is divided by the predetermined interval of time at 12, the resulting quotient is multiplied by a factor which is proportional to the total moment of inertia, the motor driving moment corresponding to the instantaneous value of the operational parameter being read from the memory 13, and the product obtained by the multiplication by the above-mentioned factor is subtracted from said instantaneous value at 14. <IMAGE>
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Method of determining the load moment which is applied by a motor to a rotating load
This invention relates to a method of determining the load moment which is applied by a motor to a rotating load, wherein the differential quotient of angular velocity with respect to time is derived from speed measurements and is multiplied with a factor that is proportional to the total moment of inertia and the resulting value is subtracted from a motor driving moment that corresponds to the instantaneous value of a measurable operational parameter.
It is often desired to ascertain by measurement the torque of rotating shafts in order to obtain information on the instantaneous load conditions. Various measuring setups for that purpose have been disclosed, e.g., strain gauges which are provided at the rotating shaft and permit a determination of torque as a function of the measured torsional stress. By means of the known methods it is often impossible or highly expensive to determine the torque, for instance, because the shaft concerned is not accessible or because the measuring instruments used are not sufficiently robust.
In a known method of the kind described first hereinbefore (Published German Application 27 02 981 ) the armature current of a d.c. motor is measured and is multiplied with a constant so that a signal is obtained which represents the maximum moment associated with a full exciter field. In conjunction with motors operating under frequently changing conditions that method will provide only relatively inaccurate values and the method cannot be used at all with other motors, such as internal combustion engines.
For a monitoring of the capacity of an internal combustion engine it is known from Published German
Application 31 03 648 that the average torque can be determined by a method in which the times between occurrence of speeds at two speed thresholds are measured in a run-up test and a coasting test. The average torque can be calculated from said times in accordance with a known formula. But the instantaneous torque, which is often interesting, cannot be determined in that manner.
It is an object of the invention to provide a method and an arrangement by which the instantaneous torque which is applied by a motor to a rotating load can be very exactly determined in a simple and reliable
manner.
In a method of the kind described first hereinbefore that object can be accomplished in accordance with the invention in that the change of the motor driving moment in dependence on the measurable value of the operational parameter, such as the speed, the motor current of an electric motor, or the intake pressure of an
internal combustion engine, is stored in a memory and the instantaneous motor driving moment is read from the memory for the measurement.
The method in accordance with the invention affords the advantage that a measurement of speeds at successive times is sufficient for a determination of the instantaneous load moment. An analog
measurement of speed can always be effected by known methods, even under difficult conditions.
In a method of determining the load moment applied by an electric motor to a rotating load in such a
manner that the speeds are measured after predetermined intervals of time, it will be desirable to multiply the first measured speed with a first weighting factor and to multiply the second measured speed with a second weighting factor, whereafter the resulting second weighted speed is subtracted from the first weighted speed and a constant corresponding to the motor driving moment at zero speed is added to the
resulting difference. That method is based on the assumption that the dependence of the electric moment driving an electric motor on speed can be represented in many cases with adequate accuracy as a straight line so that there is no need for characteristics memory.
In such case the method may be simplified in that the multiplication of successivly measured speeds with the weighting factors is effected by a counting of pulses at a speed-proportional pulse rate for respective counting times, which are proportional to the weighting factors.
In a desirable arrangement for carrying out the method in accordance with the invention the output terminal of a speed pickup is connected to the input terminal of a change-over switch, both output terminals of which are connected to the input terminals of two buffer memories, a clock is provided, which is arranged to deliver timing signals and has output terminals respectively connected to the control input terminal of the change-over switch and to the control input terminals of the two memories, which are adapted to be read in alternation and have output terminals connected to the two input terminals of a first subtracter, a divider is provided, which has one input terminal connected to the output terminal of the subtracter and another input terminal for receiving a signal from the clock, a characteristics memory is provided, in which the change of the motor driving moment as a function of the value of a measurable operational parameter, such as speed,
is stored, and which has a readout input terminal for receiving the value of that operational parameter, the instantaneous value of the motor driving moment appears at the output terminal of the characteristics
memory, and a second subtracter is provided, which has a first input terminal connected to the output terminal of the characteristics memory and a second input terminal connected to the output terminal of the divider.
If the motor of such arrangement is an electric motor, it may be desirable to provide a motor current sensor having an output terminal which is connected to the input terminal of the characteristics memory.
In a desirable arrangement for carrying out a modified method of the kind described hereinbefore, the output terminal of a speed pickup is connected to the input terminal of a change-over switch, both output terminals of which are connected to the input terminals of two buffer memories, a clock for delivering timing signals is associated with the change-over switch and the buffer memories, two multipliers are provided, which have first input terminals, each of which is connected to one output terminal of an associated buffer memory, and second input terminals for receiving respective signals, which represent the first and second weighting factors, respectively, the output terminals of the mutlipliers are connected to the two input terminals of the subtracter, and an adder is provided, which has one input terminal that is connected to the output terminal of the subtracter and another input terminal for receiving a signal which represents a constant factor.
In such an arrangement the speed pickup may desirably comprise in known manner a pulse generator and a pulse counter, which succeeds the pulse generator and is controlled by the clock.
The invention with further advantage and features will now be explained more in detail with reference to illustrative embodiments shown on the drawing, in which Figure 1 is a graph illustrating the dependence of the electric moment and of the current of an electric motor on speed, Figure 2 is a diagrammatic view illustrating an arrangement in accordance with the invention for determining the load moment, and Figure 3 shows another arrangement in accordance with the invention for determining the load moment
The invention is based on the assumption that it is generally possible to state a fixed relation between the moment driving a motor and the measurable value of an operational parameter of that motor. With reference to an illustrative electric motor, Figure 1 illustrates the dependence of the driving electric moment Mel on speed n.The graph indicates also the change of the motor current I as a function of speed. It is apparent that a certain electric moment Mel can clearly be associated with the motor current or with the speed, which are operational parameters that can easily be measured. Similar remarks are applicable to different motors, such as internal combustion engines or hydraulic motors, in which the driving moment may be associated, e.g., with the intake pressure or the hydraulic pressure.
Figure 2 is a diagrammatic view showing an electric motor 1 having a rotor 2 which by means of a shaft 3 drives a rotating load 4. The input current I of the motor 1 can be measured by means of a current sensor 5 and the speed n of the motor can be measured by means of a speed pickup 6.
The invention is concerned with the determination of the load moment MLwhich is transmitted via the shaft 3 to the load 4. The moments which occur are related in accordance with the following equation: ML = Mel + eR (1) wherein
Me ..... electric moment driving the motor ji angular acceleration moment of inertia of the rotating masses
In equation (1), Mel will be known from the characteristic of the motor if the speed is known. eR is a constant of the system and ji can be derived from a measured speed because 7r dn (2) = 30 ' dt
As will also be shown in the illustrative embodiment, these values can be determined by a measurement of two speeds nl, n2 at the beginning and end of an interval of time At and by the following division:
dn n2 -n1 (3)
dt At
For this reason the arrangement shown in Figure 2 comprises a change-over switch 7, having an input terminal that is connected to the speed pickup and having output terminals connected to the input terminals of buffer memories 8,9 controlled by a clock 10 so that the speed can be measured after predetermined intervals of time and the difference between said speeds can be divided by the interval of time. For instance, the speed n1 is measured at a certain time and is stored in the memory 9. The speed n2 is measured after the interval oftime At and is stored in the memory 8. The values n2, nl are delivered to a subtracter 11, which computes the difference (n2 - n1). The output terminal of the subtracter 11 is connected to one input terminal of a divider 12, which at its other input terminal receives from the clock 10 a signal which represents the time
At. As a result, the signal appearing at the output terminal of the divider represents (n2 - n1)/ At or that quantity multiplied with the factor "'/30.
The characteristic plotting Me against speed n or motor current I has been stored in the memory 13. For this reason the signal Me appearing at the output terminal of the memory 13 will be related to the instantaneous motor current I measured by the current sensor 5 or to the speed n measured by the speed pickup 6. The output terminal of the memory 13 is connected to one input terminal of a second subtracter 14, which at its other input terminal is connected to the output terminal of the divider 12 so that the signal ML = Mel - 3C3R which is to be determined appears at the output terminal of the subtracter 14.
Figure 1 shows a straight line, which approximately represents the change of the electric moment Me in a certain speed range. For this reason the electric moment can be represented by Mel = C n(t) (4)
nc
For n = n2, the last-mentioned equation together with equations (1) and (3) gives the result
If the measuring interval At is always the same, equation (5) can be written as follows:
ML = C + n1k1 - n2k2 (5') wherein
On the basis of the simplified explanation given above, the load moment can be determined by means of the arrangement shown in Figure 3.
In accordance with Figure 3 a pulse generator 15 is provided on the shaft 3 or at another rotating member of the system comprising the motor 1 and the load 4. In known manner the pulse generator 15 generates pulses at a rate which is proportional to speed. The output terminal of the pulse generator is connected to the input terminal of a counter 16, which is controlled by a clock 17. For a predetermined time the counter 16 counts the pulses, the number of which is a measure of speed. The output terminal of the counter 16 is connected to the input terminal of a change-over switch 18. It is mentioned at this juncture that the speed can be determined by a different method, e.g., by an analog method as illustrated in Figure 2.
The two output terminals of the change-over switch 18 are connected to the input terminals of buffer memories 19, 20, which just as the change-over switch 18, are controlled by the clock 17. The change-over switch 18 and the memories 19, 20 are controlled in such a manner that speeds nl, n2 etc. measured after respective intervals of time At are stored in the memories 19, 20 in alternation and are available at their output terminals. The output terminal of each of the memories 19, is connected to one input terminal of an associated one of the multipliers 21, 22, which at their input terminals receive signals representing the constants kl and k2, respectively, of equation (6).
The products n1 k1 and n2k2, respectively, appear at the output terminals of multipliers 21, 22. Said output terminals are connected to the two input terminals of a subtracter 23 so that the signal (nlkl - n2k2) appears at the output terminal of the subtracter 23 and is delivered to one of the input terminals of the adder 24, which at its other input terminal receives a signal that represents the constant (C) in equation (4) or (5) so that the signal MLtO be determined appears at the output terminal of the adder and is delivered to a display 25 or the like.
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1. A method of determining the load moment which is applied by a motor to a rotating load, wherein the differential quotient of angular velocity with respect to time is derived from speed measurements and is multiplied with a factor that is proportional tothetotal moment of inertia and the resulting value is subtracted from a motor driving moment that corresponds to the instantaneous value of a measurable operational parameter, characterized in that the change of the motor driving moment in dependence on the value of the measurable operational parameter, such as the speed, the motor current of an electric motor, or the intake pressure of an internal combustion engine, is stored in a memory, and the instantaneous motor driving moment is read from the memory for the measurement.
2. A method of determining the load moment which is applied by an electric motor to a rotating load, wherein the speeds are measured after predetermined intervals of time, characterized in that the first measured speed is multiplied with a first weighting factor, the second measured speed is multiplied with a second weighting factor, the resulting second weighted speed is subtracted from the first weighted speed and a constant corresponding to the motor driving moment at zero speed is added to the resulting difference.
3. A method according to claim 1, characterized in thatthe multiplication of successively measured speeds with the weighting factors is effected by a counting ofthe speed-proportional pulse rate for respective counting times, which are proportional to the weighting factors.
4. An arrangement for carrying out the process according to claim 1, characterized in that the output terminal of a speed pickup (6) is connected to the input terminal of a change-over switch (8), both output terminals of which are connected to the input terminals of two buffer memories (8, 9), a clock (10) is provided, which is arranged to deliver timing signals ( t) and has output terminals respectively connected to the control input terminal of the change-over switch (7) and to the control input terminals of two memories (8, 9) which are adapted to be read in alternation and have output terminals connected to the two input terminals of a first subtracter (11), a divider (12) is provided, which has one input terminal connected to the output terminal of the subtracter (11) and another input terminal for receiving a signal ( t) from the clock (10), a characteristics memory (13) is provided, in which the change ofthe motor driving moment (Mel) as a function of the value of a measurable operational parameter, such as speed (n), is stored, and which has a readout input terminal for receiving the value of that operational parameter, the instantaneous value of the motor driving moment appears at the output terminal of the characteristics memory (13), and a second subtracter (14) is provided, which has a first input terminal connected to the output terminal of the characteristics memory and a second input terminal connected to the output terminal of the divider (12).
5. An arrangement according to claim 4, wherein the motor is an electric motor, characterized in that a motor current sensor (5) is provided and has an outputterminal that is connected to the input terminal ofthe characteristics memory (13).
6. An arrangement for carrying out the method according to claim 2, characterized in that the output terminal of a speed pickup (15, 16) is connected to the input terminal of a change-over switch (18), both output terminals of which are connected to the input terminals of two buffer memories (19, 20), a clock (17) for delivering timing signals (At) is associated with the change-over switch (18) and the buffer memories (19, 20), two multipliers are provided, which have first input terminals, each of which is connected to one output terminal of an associated buffer memory (19, 20), and second inputterminalsfor receiving respective signals (kl, k2) which represent the first and second weighting factors, respectively, the output terminals of the multipliers are connected to the two input terminals of a subtracter (23), and an adder (24) is provided, which has one input terminal that is connected to the output terminal of the subtracter (23) and another input terminal for receiving a signal (C) which represents a constantfactor.
7. An arrangement according to claim 6, characterized in that the speed pickup comprises in known manner a pulse generator (15) and a pulse counter (16), which succeeds the pulse generator (15) and a pulse counter (16), which succeeds the pulse generator and is controlled by the clock (17).
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