EP1105866A1 - Device for positioning a guitar or a double bass - Google Patents

Device for positioning a guitar or a double bass

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EP1105866A1
EP1105866A1 EP99936723A EP99936723A EP1105866A1 EP 1105866 A1 EP1105866 A1 EP 1105866A1 EP 99936723 A EP99936723 A EP 99936723A EP 99936723 A EP99936723 A EP 99936723A EP 1105866 A1 EP1105866 A1 EP 1105866A1
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double bass
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Marc Pappilon
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    • G10GREPRESENTATION OF MUSIC; RECORDING MUSIC IN NOTATION FORM; ACCESSORIES FOR MUSIC OR MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR, e.g. SUPPORTS
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  • the present invention relates to a device for positioning a guitar or a double bass. It applies in particular to the positioning of all types of guitars: dry guitars, electric guitars, bass guitars. The habitual wearing of these instruments generates malpositions which cause muscular tensions. These, in the long term, cause discomfort, pain and static problems in the player.
  • the object of the invention is to provide a device allowing the guitarist or the double bass player to place his instrument in the most physiological manner possible, thereby offering optimal comfort and freedom of play.
  • the subject of the invention is a device for positioning a guitar or a double bass, as described in claim 1.
  • the positioning device may include one or more of the features of claims 2 to 8, taken in isolation or according to all their technically possible combinations.
  • the invention also relates to a guitar with a shoulder strap or a double bass equipped with a device as described above.
  • the back of the instrument body may have a recess for housing the strip during periods of non-use of the device. Examples of embodiments of the invention will now be described with reference to the appended drawings, in which: - Figure 1 is a plan view of a device . positioning according to the invention, arranged flat; Figure 2 shows the device in perspective, in its configuration of use; - Figure 3 shows in perspective the back of a body or a bass guitar body on which the device has been put in place;
  • FIG. 4 to 6 show, respectively from the front, from above and in perspective from three-quarters before, a standing guitarist who plays on the bass guitar of Figure 3;
  • FIG. 5A is a schematic top view illustrating the use of the device for positioning a double bass
  • - Figure 7 is a side view, partially in perspective, of a variant
  • Figures 8 to 11 illustrate in perspective four different positions of a player who uses a bass guitar equipped with the variant of Figure 7
  • - Figure 12 is a view similar to Figure 1 of another embodiment of the following device
  • - Figure 13 is a partial side view, in the position of use;
  • - Figure 14 is a schematic side view, with partial longitudinal section, of a bass guitar according to the invention, with its positioning device in the use position;
  • Figure 15 is a similar view, with the positioning device in the retracted storage position;
  • - Figure 16 is a schematic top view corresponding to Figure 15;
  • Figure 17 is a partial exploded view, schematic, illustrating the manufacture of the object of Figures 14 to 16;
  • Figure 18 is a view similar to Figure 14 of a variant
  • - Figure 19 is a schematic exploded view of another variant; and - Figure 20 shows in perspective another embodiment of the invention.
  • the positioning device 1 shown in Figures 1 and 2 consists essentially of a plate 2 of rectangular shape of about 10 cm x 7 cm, of a rigid strip 3, with a length of the order of 20 cm , a strap 4 approximately the same length as the strip 3, and two suction cups 5.
  • the plate 2 and the strip 3 are for example metallic, but can be made of another sufficiently rigid material, for example in a suitable plastic manner.
  • the plate 2 carries on a small edge a linear hinge 6 on which is articulated one end of the strip 3.
  • One end of the strap 4 is fixed, by means of a few aligned rivets 7, along the opposite edge of the plate.
  • the strip 3 has, approximately half-length, an oblique fold 8, so that the parts 9 and 10 of this strip located on either side of this line form an obtuse angle ⁇ ( Figure 2), by example of the order of 150 °, with in addition a warping effect.
  • Another fold line 11, inclined in the opposite direction to the fold 8, is also provided near the free end of the strip 3, which is cut obliquely roughly parallel to the fold 8, to define an end heel 12 in the form of a parallelogram.
  • the strap 4 has at its free end two gussets 13A, 13B arranged on its same face (the bottom face in Figure 1), one behind the other.
  • the plate 2 comprises two arcuate slots 14, the edges of which are sinuous, so as to define several circular notches 15 connected by relatively narrow slots 16.
  • Each suction cup 5, made of flexible plastic, is provided with a foot 17 with an enlarged end, as can be seen in FIG. 7. By elastic compression, the intermediate part of this foot can pass from one notch 15 to the next of the corresponding light 14.
  • the lights 14 end near the strap 4.
  • Two studs 18 of flexible material, for example felt, are glued in the two opposite corners of the plate, on the side of the suction cups 5.
  • the flat configuration of the device shown in Figure 1 is the storage configuration of the device.
  • the band 3 and the strap 4 are folded in the opposite direction to the suction cups 5, and the heel 12 is introduced into one of the two gussets, for example in the gusset 13A.
  • the device then takes the general triangular configuration shown in Figure 2, in which the part 10 of the strip 3 forms an angle slightly less than 90 ° with the plate when the strap is tightened.
  • the device 1 is fixed to the back 19A, of generally planar shape, of the body or of the body 19 of a guitar G, in this example a bass guitar, by means of the two suction cups 5, for example in the vicinity of the handle 20 of the instrument and slightly offset upward relative to the axis XX of this handle, as shown in Figure 3.
  • the angular position of the plate relative to the axis XX can be adjusted at will, after this fixing, by placing the feet of the two suction cups in different notches of the lights 14.
  • Figures 4 to 6 represent a player, assumed right-handed, who plays on the guitar equipped with the device 1, in a standing position.
  • the guitar is carried by a classic strap 21 on the player's left shoulder, whose left hand plays on the neck 20.
  • the strap 4 is applied to the player's abdomen, from a location slightly to the right of the navel to the iliac wing, the gussets of the strap being located roughly at the waist.
  • the strap in front view, extends obliquely downwards and towards the side of the player, and its part adjacent to the plate 2 forms with the latter, and therefore with the general plane of the back 19A of the body 19 of the guitar, an angle ⁇ ( Figures 2 and 5) of the order of 60 to 80 °.
  • the instrument thus positions itself in an ergonomic position in three dimensions: - In front view ( Figure 4), the X-X axis of the handle takes an inclined position at about 45 ° on the horizontal. This will prevent exaggerated flexion of the left wrist and reduce flexion of the right forearm.
  • the device 1 allows to orient and wedge the instrument so that the front side of the guitar is turned upwards, roughly in the same plane as that of the right forearm, thus avoiding excessive flexion of the right wrist.
  • the instrument thus calibrated, its weight is better distributed. Instead of weighing only on the shoulder, the weight is distributed over the shoulder and over the pelvis (pelvic girdle). There are therefore fewer constraints on the shoulder muscles (upper trapezium), allowing the muscles of the shoulder girdle to be positioned and used as well as possible.
  • the instrumentalist is exempt from carrying the neck with his left hand, which removes any stress on the left thumb and brings the instrument into a comfortable position. He also doesn't need to wedge him with his right forearm. Once the instrumentalist has been freed from these constraints on the left hand and the right forearm, his shoulders can now optimally orient the two upper limbs in space. The two thumbs are only used for the general balance of the other fingers.
  • the device can also be used to correctly position a double bass C.
  • it is fixed in substantially the same position as above relative to the abdomen of the player, that is to say, in this case, with the strap 4 extending in a general direction approximately perpendicular to the general axis, approximately vertical, of the instrument.
  • the double bass player no longer needs to wedge his instrument using his chest, knees or upper limbs, which then leaves his two shoulders and upper limbs completely free.
  • FIG. 7 represents a variant 101 of the device which differs from that described above by the fact that the strap 4 is extended, beyond the gussets 13A and 13B, by a belt 22.
  • This belt is intended to go around the size of the player and to be fixed in an adjustable manner by its free end to the face of the strap 4 opposite the strip 3, for example by means of pieces 23, 24 of material of the "VELCRO" type. The player's comfort is then further increased.
  • the band 3 is deleted, and the strap 4 is replaced by a rigid band 4A.
  • the strip 4A is curved, its general curved shape fitting well
  • the angle ⁇ of the strip 4A and of the plate 2 ( Figure 13) is maintained by means of four strips 23, 24.
  • the two strips 23 are articulated on the edges of the strip by hinges 25 and have on one side a head nail 26.
  • the two strips 24 are articulated on the edges of the plate 2 parallel to the previous ones by hinges 27 and are each provided with two buttonholes 28 having a wide end which lets the head of the nails 26 pass and a narrow end which only lets through their stem.
  • the strips 23 and 24 are brought into a position approximately perpendicular to the strip and the plate, and the nails 26, introduced into a pair of buttonholes 28, maintain the angle J3 at one of two possible values, as shown in Figure 13.
  • the back of the body 19 has a recess 30 which makes it possible to accommodate the strip 4A in the position of non-use of the device 1 ( Figure 15).
  • a removable cover (not shown) can be provided.
  • the plate 2 can be omitted and the strip 4A be directly articulated by the hinge 6 on the back of the instrument.
  • the latter and the strip 4A then comprise suitable means (not shown) for releasable, and preferably adjustable, maintenance of the angle ⁇ , for example strips 23, 24 as described above.
  • the plate 2 is fixed in a removable manner and adjustable in position and inclination by means of a support plate 31 mounted on the back of the body 19 of the guitar, in a circular recess of this back.
  • the plate 31 is circular and pivots on a threaded rod 32 secured to the body 19.
  • a knurled nut 33 screwed onto it makes it possible to fix its angular position.
  • the plate 31 carries two parallel rails 34 in which four bolt heads 35 can slide. The bolts pass through holes in the plate 2, and their position along the rails 34 can be locked by means of four knurled nuts 35 screwed onto these bolts .
  • the plate 2 also has a longitudinal slot 37 which starts from its rear edge and lets the nut 33 pass, as shown in phantom in Figure 19.
  • the instrumentalist firstly, adjusts the position of the plate 2 along the rails 34, and fixes this position by means of the nuts 35, then, in a second step, he adjusts the angular position of the assembly plate 31-plate 2 by means of the nut 33.
  • the angle ⁇ must only be maintained so as to prevent it from being closed during use of the device. Indeed, the latter has the essential function of maintaining a configuration predetermined space, generally triangular in shape from above ( Figures 5 and 5A), between the player's abdomen and the back of the instrument body. It is therefore in this sense that the expression "maintenance of the angle ⁇ " must be understood.
  • the plate 202 and the strip 203 are plastic plates.
  • the hinge 206 which connects them is produced by an adhesive tape stuck transversely on the two plates.
  • the front face of the plate 202 carries a piece of VELCRO® 38A, and a substantial part of the back 219A of the body 219 of the instrument is covered with a piece of complementary VELCRO® 38B.
  • the strap 204 is made in two parts: a part 204A which leaves from the free end of the strip 203, and a part 204B which leaves, towards the rear, from an intermediate point of the length of the plate 202.
  • the opposite sides of these two parts are provided with complementary VELCRO® pieces 39A and 39B.
  • the plate 202 can be positioned as desired on the back 219A, in height, length and orientation, using the pieces of VELCRO® 38A and 38B, and adjusting the angle of the plates 202 and 203 using the pieces of VELCRO® 39A and 39B. If the device 201 is not used, it folds flat and is very light and very compact.
  • the natural elasticity of the plastic plates used allows the plate 202 to adapt to a non-flat back 219A, and possibly cause the band 203 to bend slightly, providing a "suspension" effect of the instrument. .

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Abstract

The invention concerns a device (1) comprising: a catching line (7) integral or adapted to be made integral with the back (19A) of a guitar (G) or double bass body (19); a strip (4) whereof one first end is linked or adapted to be linked with said catching line, said strip, when it is being used, substantially matching in shape the front of the musician's trunk; and means, while in use, for maintaining the angle between the general plane of said body (19) back and the part adjacent to the strip (4) at a predetermined value, preferably adjustable. The invention is useful for ergonomic positioning of electric or acoustic guitars, bass guitars and double basses.

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Dispositif de positionnement de guitare ou de contrebasse Guitar or double bass positioning device
La présente invention est relative à un dispositif de positionnement de guitare ou de contrebasse. Elle s'applique en particulier au positionnement de tous types de guitares : guitares sèches, guitares électriques, guitares basses . Le port habituel de ces instruments engendre des malpositions qui provoquent des tensions musculaires. Celles-ci, à long terme, instaurent des gênes, des douleurs puis des troubles de la statique chez le joueur.The present invention relates to a device for positioning a guitar or a double bass. It applies in particular to the positioning of all types of guitars: dry guitars, electric guitars, bass guitars. The habitual wearing of these instruments generates malpositions which cause muscular tensions. These, in the long term, cause discomfort, pain and static problems in the player.
L'invention a pour but de fournir un dispositif permettant au guitariste ou au contrebassiste de placer son instrument de manière la plus physiologique possible, en offrant ainsi un confort et une liberté de jeu optimaux.The object of the invention is to provide a device allowing the guitarist or the double bass player to place his instrument in the most physiological manner possible, thereby offering optimal comfort and freedom of play.
A cet effet, l'invention a pour objet un dispositif de positionnement de guitare ou de contrebasse, tel que décrit dans la revendication 1.To this end, the subject of the invention is a device for positioning a guitar or a double bass, as described in claim 1.
Le dispositif de positionnement suivant 1 ' invention peut comporter une ou plusieurs des caractéristiques des revendications 2 à 8, prises isolément ou suivant toutes leurs combinaisons techniquement possibles. L'invention a également pour objet une guitare à bandoulière ou une contrebasse équipée d'un dispositif comme ci-dessus décrit. Le dos du corps de l'instrument peut comporter un évidement de logement de la bande pendant les périodes de non-utilisation du dispositif. Des exemples de réalisation de l'invention vont maintenant être décrits en regard des dessins annexés, sur lesquels : - la Figure 1 est une vue en plan d'un dispositif.de positionnement conforme à l'invention, disposé à plat ; la Figure 2 représente le dispositif en perspective, dans sa configuration d'utilisation ; - la Figure 3 représente en perspective le dos d'une caisse ou d'un corps de guitare basse sur lequel le dispositif a été mis en place ;The positioning device according to the invention may include one or more of the features of claims 2 to 8, taken in isolation or according to all their technically possible combinations. The invention also relates to a guitar with a shoulder strap or a double bass equipped with a device as described above. The back of the instrument body may have a recess for housing the strip during periods of non-use of the device. Examples of embodiments of the invention will now be described with reference to the appended drawings, in which: - Figure 1 is a plan view of a device . positioning according to the invention, arranged flat; Figure 2 shows the device in perspective, in its configuration of use; - Figure 3 shows in perspective the back of a body or a bass guitar body on which the device has been put in place;
- les Figures 4 à 6 représentent, respectivement de face, de dessus et en perspective de trois-quarts avant, un guitariste debout qui joue sur la guitare basse de la Figure 3 ;- Figures 4 to 6 show, respectively from the front, from above and in perspective from three-quarters before, a standing guitarist who plays on the bass guitar of Figure 3;
- la Figure 5A est une vue de dessus schématique illustrant l'utilisation du dispositif pour le positionnement d'une contrebasse ; - la Figure 7 est une vue de côté, partiellement en perspective, d'une variante ; les Figures 8 à 11 illustrent en perspective quatre positions différentes d'un joueur qui utilise une guitare basse équipée de la variante de la Figure 7 ; - la Figure 12 est une vue analogue à la figure 1 d'un autre mode de réalisation du dispositif suivant- Figure 5A is a schematic top view illustrating the use of the device for positioning a double bass; - Figure 7 is a side view, partially in perspective, of a variant; Figures 8 to 11 illustrate in perspective four different positions of a player who uses a bass guitar equipped with the variant of Figure 7; - Figure 12 is a view similar to Figure 1 of another embodiment of the following device
1 ' invention ;The invention;
- la Figure 13 est une vue partielle de côté, en position d'utilisation ; - la Figure 14 est une vue schématique de côté, avec coupe longitudinale partielle, d'une guitare basse conforme à l'invention, avec son dispositif de positionnement en position d'utilisation ; la Figure 15 est une vue analogue, avec le dispositif de positionnement en position escamotée de rangement ; - la Figure 16 est une vue schématique de dessus correspondant à la Figure 15 ; la Figure 17 est une vue partielle éclatée, schématique, illustrant la fabrication de l'objet des Figures 14 à 16 ;- Figure 13 is a partial side view, in the position of use; - Figure 14 is a schematic side view, with partial longitudinal section, of a bass guitar according to the invention, with its positioning device in the use position; Figure 15 is a similar view, with the positioning device in the retracted storage position; - Figure 16 is a schematic top view corresponding to Figure 15; Figure 17 is a partial exploded view, schematic, illustrating the manufacture of the object of Figures 14 to 16;
- la Figure 18 est une vue analogue à la Figure 14 d'une variante ;- Figure 18 is a view similar to Figure 14 of a variant;
- la Figure 19 est une vue éclatée schématique d'une autre variante ; et - la Figure 20 représente en perspective un autre mode de réalisation de l'invention.- Figure 19 is a schematic exploded view of another variant; and - Figure 20 shows in perspective another embodiment of the invention.
Le dispositif de positionnement 1 représenté sur les Figures 1 et 2 est constitué essentiellement d'une platine 2 de forme rectangulaire d'environ 10 cm x 7 cm, d'une bande rigide 3, d'une longueur de l'ordre de 20 cm, d'une sangle 4 à peu près de la même longueur que la bande 3, et de deux ventouses 5. La platine 2 et la bande 3 sont par exemple métalliques, mais peuvent être constituées d'une autre matière suffisamment rigide, par exemple d'une manière plastique appropriée.The positioning device 1 shown in Figures 1 and 2 consists essentially of a plate 2 of rectangular shape of about 10 cm x 7 cm, of a rigid strip 3, with a length of the order of 20 cm , a strap 4 approximately the same length as the strip 3, and two suction cups 5. The plate 2 and the strip 3 are for example metallic, but can be made of another sufficiently rigid material, for example in a suitable plastic manner.
La platine 2 porte sur un petit bord une charnière linéaire 6 sur laquelle est articulée une extrémité de la bande 3. Une extrémité de la sangle 4 est fixée, au moyen de quelques rivets alignés 7, le long du bord opposé de la platine.The plate 2 carries on a small edge a linear hinge 6 on which is articulated one end of the strip 3. One end of the strap 4 is fixed, by means of a few aligned rivets 7, along the opposite edge of the plate.
La bande 3 présente, à peu près à mi -longueur, une pliure oblique 8, de sorte que les parties 9 et 10 de cette bande situées de part et d'autre de cette ligne forment un angle obtus α (Figure 2), par exemple de l'ordre de 150°, avec en outre un effet de voilage. Une autre ligne de pliure 11, inclinée en sens inverse par rapport à la pliure 8, est de plus prévue près de l'extrémité libre de la bande 3, qui est découpée en biais à peu près parallèlement à la pliure 8, pour définir un talon d'extrémité 12 en forme de parallélogramme .The strip 3 has, approximately half-length, an oblique fold 8, so that the parts 9 and 10 of this strip located on either side of this line form an obtuse angle α (Figure 2), by example of the order of 150 °, with in addition a warping effect. Another fold line 11, inclined in the opposite direction to the fold 8, is also provided near the free end of the strip 3, which is cut obliquely roughly parallel to the fold 8, to define an end heel 12 in the form of a parallelogram.
La sangle 4 comporte à son extrémité libre deux goussets 13A, 13B disposés sur sa même face (la face de dessous sur la Figure 1), l'un derrière l'autre.The strap 4 has at its free end two gussets 13A, 13B arranged on its same face (the bottom face in Figure 1), one behind the other.
La platine 2 comporte deux lumières arquées 14 dont les bords sont sinueux, de façon à définir plusieurs crans circulaires 15 reliés par des fentes 16 relativement étroites.The plate 2 comprises two arcuate slots 14, the edges of which are sinuous, so as to define several circular notches 15 connected by relatively narrow slots 16.
Chaque ventouse 5, réalisée en matière plastique souple, est munie d'un pied 17 à extrémité élargie, comme on le voit bien sur la Figure 7. Par compression élastique, la partie intermédiaire de ce pied peut passer d'un cran 15 au suivant de la lumière 14 correspondante.Each suction cup 5, made of flexible plastic, is provided with a foot 17 with an enlarged end, as can be seen in FIG. 7. By elastic compression, the intermediate part of this foot can pass from one notch 15 to the next of the corresponding light 14.
Les lumières 14 se terminent près de la sangle 4. Deux plots 18 en matière souple, par exemple en feutre, sont collés dans les deux coins opposés de la platine, du côté des ventouses 5. La configuration plate du dispositif représentée sur la Figure 1 est la configuration de rangement du dispositif. Pour son utilisation, on replie la bande 3 et la sangle 4 dans le sens opposé aux ventouses 5, et on introduit le talon 12 dans l'un des deux goussets, par exemple dans le gousset 13A. Le dispositif prend alors la configuration générale triangulaire représentée sur la Figure 2, dans laquelle la partie 10 de la bande 3 forme un angle légèrement inférieur à 90° avec la platine lorsque la sangle est tendue . Le dispositif 1 se fixe au dos 19A, de forme générale plane, de la caisse ou du corps 19 d'une guitare G, dans cet exemple une guitare basse, au moyen des deux ventouses 5, par exemple au voisinage du manche 20 de l'instrument et légèrement décalé vers le haut par rapport à l'axe X-X de ce manche, comme représenté sur la Figure 3. La position angulaire de la platine par rapport à l'axe X-X peut être réglée à volonté, après cette fixation, en disposant les pieds des deux ventouses dans différents crans des lumières 14.The lights 14 end near the strap 4. Two studs 18 of flexible material, for example felt, are glued in the two opposite corners of the plate, on the side of the suction cups 5. The flat configuration of the device shown in Figure 1 is the storage configuration of the device. For its use, the band 3 and the strap 4 are folded in the opposite direction to the suction cups 5, and the heel 12 is introduced into one of the two gussets, for example in the gusset 13A. The device then takes the general triangular configuration shown in Figure 2, in which the part 10 of the strip 3 forms an angle slightly less than 90 ° with the plate when the strap is tightened. The device 1 is fixed to the back 19A, of generally planar shape, of the body or of the body 19 of a guitar G, in this example a bass guitar, by means of the two suction cups 5, for example in the vicinity of the handle 20 of the instrument and slightly offset upward relative to the axis XX of this handle, as shown in Figure 3. The angular position of the plate relative to the axis XX can be adjusted at will, after this fixing, by placing the feet of the two suction cups in different notches of the lights 14.
Les Figures 4 à 6 représentent un joueur, supposé droitier, qui joue sur la guitare équipée du dispositif 1, en position debout. La guitare est portée par une bandoulière classique 21 sur l'épaule gauche du joueur, dont la main gauche joue sur le manche 20.Figures 4 to 6 represent a player, assumed right-handed, who plays on the guitar equipped with the device 1, in a standing position. The guitar is carried by a classic strap 21 on the player's left shoulder, whose left hand plays on the neck 20.
Comme on le voit bien sur les Figures 5 et 6, la sangle 4 s'applique sur l'abdomen du joueur, d'un emplacement situé légèrement à droite du nombril jusqu'à l'aile iliaque, les goussets de la sangle se situant à peu près au niveau de la ceinture. Ainsi, la sangle, en vue de face, s'étend en oblique vers le bas et vers le flanc du joueur, et sa partie adjacente à la platine 2 forme avec cette dernière, et donc avec le plan général du dos 19A du corps 19 de la guitare, un angle β (Figures 2 et 5) de l'ordre de 60 à 80°.As can be seen in Figures 5 and 6, the strap 4 is applied to the player's abdomen, from a location slightly to the right of the navel to the iliac wing, the gussets of the strap being located roughly at the waist. Thus, the strap, in front view, extends obliquely downwards and towards the side of the player, and its part adjacent to the plate 2 forms with the latter, and therefore with the general plane of the back 19A of the body 19 of the guitar, an angle β (Figures 2 and 5) of the order of 60 to 80 °.
L'instrument se positionne ainsi de lui-même dans une position ergonomique de manière tridimensionnelle : - En vue de face (Figure 4), l'axe X-X du manche prend une position inclinée à environ 45° sur l'horizontale. Ceci permet d'éviter une flexion exagérée du poignet gauche et de diminuer la flexion de l'avant-bras droit.The instrument thus positions itself in an ergonomic position in three dimensions: - In front view (Figure 4), the X-X axis of the handle takes an inclined position at about 45 ° on the horizontal. This will prevent exaggerated flexion of the left wrist and reduce flexion of the right forearm.
- En vue de dessus (Figure 5) , le plan général P de l'instrument s'oriente vers l'avant en créant un angle "x" d'environ 45° par rapport au plan frontal de l'instrumentiste. Ceci permet de positionner l'épaule gauche dans sa position de fonction physiologique (omoplate plaquée contre la cage thoracique) , offrant alors une liberté totale au reste du membre supérieur et libérant la main de toute contrainte. Le risqué de surmenage musculo-tendineux est ainsi réduit .- In top view (Figure 5), the general plane P of the instrument is oriented towards the front by creating an angle "x" of about 45 ° with respect to the frontal plane of the instrumentalist. This allows you to position the left shoulder in its position of physiological function (scapula pressed against the rib cage), thus offering total freedom to the rest of the upper limb and freeing the hand from all constraints. The risk of muscle-tendon overwork is thus reduced.
De plus, comme illustré par les flèches sur la Figure 4 et comme on le voit sur les Figures 5 et 6, le dispositif 1 permet d'orienter et de caler l'instrument de manière à ce que la face antérieure de la guitare soit tournée vers le haut, sensiblement dans le même plan que celui de l'avant -bras droit, évitant ainsi une flexion exagérée du poignet droit .In addition, as illustrated by the arrows in Figure 4 and as seen in Figures 5 and 6, the device 1 allows to orient and wedge the instrument so that the front side of the guitar is turned upwards, roughly in the same plane as that of the right forearm, thus avoiding excessive flexion of the right wrist.
L'instrument ainsi calé, son poids est mieux réparti. Au lieu de ne peser que sur l'épaule, le poids est réparti sur l'épaule et sur le bassin (ceinture pelvienne) . Il existe donc moins de contraintes sur les muscles de l'épaule (trapèze supérieur), permettant de placer et d'utiliser au mieux les muscles de la ceinture scapulaire.The instrument thus calibrated, its weight is better distributed. Instead of weighing only on the shoulder, the weight is distributed over the shoulder and over the pelvis (pelvic girdle). There are therefore fewer constraints on the shoulder muscles (upper trapezium), allowing the muscles of the shoulder girdle to be positioned and used as well as possible.
En outre, l'instrumentiste est dispensé de porter le manche avec sa main gauche, ce qui supprime toute contrainte sur le pouce gauche et amène 1 ' instrument dans une position confortable. Il n'a pas non plus besoin de le caler avec son avant-bras droit. L'instrumentiste une fois libéré de ces contraintes sur la main gauche et l'avant -bras droit, ses épaules peuvent désormais orienter de manière optimale les deux membres supérieurs dans l'espace. Les deux pouces ne servent plus alors que pour l'équilibre général des autres doigts .In addition, the instrumentalist is exempt from carrying the neck with his left hand, which removes any stress on the left thumb and brings the instrument into a comfortable position. He also doesn't need to wedge him with his right forearm. Once the instrumentalist has been freed from these constraints on the left hand and the right forearm, his shoulders can now optimally orient the two upper limbs in space. The two thumbs are only used for the general balance of the other fingers.
Comme schématisé sur la figure 5A, le dispositif peut également servir à positionner correctement une contrebasse C. Pour cela, il est fixé dans sensiblement la même position que précédemment par rapport à l'abdomen du joueur, c'est-à-dire, dans ce cas, avec la sangle 4 s 'étendant dans une direction générale à peu près perpendiculaire à l'axe général, à peu près vertical, de l'instrument. On retrouve un angle β prédéterminé entre le dos 19A du corps 19 de l'instrument et la partie adjacente de la sangle.As shown diagrammatically in FIG. 5A, the device can also be used to correctly position a double bass C. For this, it is fixed in substantially the same position as above relative to the abdomen of the player, that is to say, in this case, with the strap 4 extending in a general direction approximately perpendicular to the general axis, approximately vertical, of the instrument. There is a predetermined angle β between the back 19A of the body 19 of the instrument and the adjacent part of the strap.
Le contrebassiste n'a donc plus besoin de caler son instrument à l'aide de son thorax, ses genoux ou ses membres supérieurs, ce qui laisse alors complètement libres ses deux épaules et ses membres supérieurs.The double bass player no longer needs to wedge his instrument using his chest, knees or upper limbs, which then leaves his two shoulders and upper limbs completely free.
La Figure 7 représente une variante 101 du dispositif qui diffère de celle décrite plus haut par le fait que la sangle 4 se prolonge, au-delà des goussets 13A et 13B, par une ceinture 22. Cette ceinture est destinée à faire le tour de la taille du joueur et à se fixer de façon réglable par son extrémité libre à la face de la sangle 4 opposée à la bande 3, par exemple au moyen de morceaux 23, 24 de matière type "VELCRO" . Le confort du joueur est alors encore augmenté . Comme représenté sur les Figures 8 à 11 en relation avec la variante 101, une fois réglées la position globale du dispositif sur le dos 19A de la guitare, l'inclinaison de la platine par rapport à l'axe du manche, et l'angle que la platine fait avec la bande 3 (dans l'exemple décrit par le choix du gousset 13A ou 13B) , la guitare est positionnée d'une façon déterminée par rapport au joueur, quelle que soit la position de celui-ci, par exemple debout (Figure 8) ou en position assise/agenouillée sur un siège dit "ergonomique" (Figure 9) , ou encore assise sur une chaise avec la guitare à l'extérieur de la hanche droite (FigureFIG. 7 represents a variant 101 of the device which differs from that described above by the fact that the strap 4 is extended, beyond the gussets 13A and 13B, by a belt 22. This belt is intended to go around the size of the player and to be fixed in an adjustable manner by its free end to the face of the strap 4 opposite the strip 3, for example by means of pieces 23, 24 of material of the "VELCRO" type. The player's comfort is then further increased. As shown in Figures 8 to 11 in relation to variant 101, once adjusted the overall position of the device on the back 19A of the guitar, the inclination of the plate relative to the axis of the neck, and the angle that the turntable does with strip 3 (in the example described by the choice of gusset 13A or 13B), the guitar is positioned in a determined manner with respect to the player, whatever the position of the latter, for example standing (Figure 8) or sitting / kneeling on a so-called "ergonomic" seat (Figure 9), or even sitting on a chair with the guitar outside your right hip (Figure
10) ou entre les jambes (Figure 11) . Dans ces deux derniers cas, la guitare ne prend pas appui sur la cuisse adjacente. Ainsi, le guitariste peut changer facilement de position sans jamais perdre les avantages ergonomiques décrits plus haut .10) or between the legs (Figure 11). In the latter two cases, the guitar does not rest on the adjacent thigh. Thus, the guitarist can easily change position without ever losing the ergonomic advantages described above.
Dans le mode de réalisation des Figures 12 et 13, la bande 3 est supprimée, et la sangle 4 est remplacée par une bande rigide 4A. On voit sur la Figure 13 que la bande 4A est incurvée, sa forme générale courbe épousant bienIn the embodiment of Figures 12 and 13, the band 3 is deleted, and the strap 4 is replaced by a rigid band 4A. We see in Figure 13 that the strip 4A is curved, its general curved shape fitting well
1 ' abdomen .1 abdomen.
L'angle β de la bande 4A et de la platine 2 (Figure 13) est maintenu au moyen de quatre lamelles 23, 24. Les deux lamelles 23 sont articulées sur les bords de la bande par des charnières 25 et comportent sur une face un clou à tête 26. Les deux lamelles 24 sont articulées sur les bords de la platine 2 parallèles aux précédents par des charnières 27 et sont pourvues chacune de deux boutonnières 28 ayant une extrémité large qui laisse passer la tête des clous 26 et une extrémité étroite qui ne laisse passer que leur tige.The angle β of the strip 4A and of the plate 2 (Figure 13) is maintained by means of four strips 23, 24. The two strips 23 are articulated on the edges of the strip by hinges 25 and have on one side a head nail 26. The two strips 24 are articulated on the edges of the plate 2 parallel to the previous ones by hinges 27 and are each provided with two buttonholes 28 having a wide end which lets the head of the nails 26 pass and a narrow end which only lets through their stem.
Pour l'utilisation, les lamelles 23 et 24 sont amenées dans une position à peu près perpendiculaire à la bande et à la platine, et les clous 26, introduits dans une paire de boutonnières 28, maintiennent l'angle J3 à l'une de deux valeurs possibles, comme illustré sur la Figure 13.For use, the strips 23 and 24 are brought into a position approximately perpendicular to the strip and the plate, and the nails 26, introduced into a pair of buttonholes 28, maintain the angle J3 at one of two possible values, as shown in Figure 13.
Dans le mode de réalisation des Figures 14 à 17, on retrouve les éléments 2, 3 et 23 à 28 des Figures 12 et 13, mais les ventouses 5, les lumières 14 et les patins 18 sont supprimés. La platine 2 est fixée de façon permanente au dos de la guitare au moyen de quatre vis 29, et constitue la plaque de fixation du manche 20 sur le corps 19.In the embodiment of Figures 14 to 17, there are the elements 2, 3 and 23 to 28 of Figures 12 and 13, but the suction cups 5, the lights 14 and the pads 18 are deleted. The plate 2 is permanently fixed to the back of the guitar by means of four screws 29, and constitutes the plate for fixing the neck 20 on the body 19.
Par ailleurs, le dos du corps 19 comporte un evidement 30 qui permet de loger la bande 4A en position de non-utilisation du dispositif 1 (Figure 15) . Un cache amovible (non représenté) peut être prévu. En variante (Figure 18) , la platine 2 peut être supprimée et la bande 4A être directement articulée par la charnière 6 au dos de l'instrument. Ce dernier et la bande 4A comportent alors des moyens appropriés (non représentés) de maintien libérable, et de préférence réglable, de l'angle β, par exemple des lamelles 23, 24 telles que décrites plus haut .Furthermore, the back of the body 19 has a recess 30 which makes it possible to accommodate the strip 4A in the position of non-use of the device 1 (Figure 15). A removable cover (not shown) can be provided. Alternatively (Figure 18), the plate 2 can be omitted and the strip 4A be directly articulated by the hinge 6 on the back of the instrument. The latter and the strip 4A then comprise suitable means (not shown) for releasable, and preferably adjustable, maintenance of the angle β, for example strips 23, 24 as described above.
En variante encore (Figures 19 et 20) , la platine 2 se fixe de façon amovible et réglable en position et en inclinaison au moyen d'une plaque-support 31 montée au dos du corps 19 de la guitare, dans un evidement circulaire de ce dos. La plaque 31 est circulaire et pivote sur une tige filetée 32 solidaire du corps 19. Un écrou moleté 33 vissé sur celle-ci permet de fixer sa position angulaire. La plaque 31 porte deux rails parallèles 34 dans lesquels peuvent coulisser quatre têtes de boulons 35. Les boulons traversent des orifices de la platine 2, et leur position le long des rails 34 peut être bloquée au moyen de quatre écrous moletés 35 vissés sur ces boulons. La platine 2 comporte en outre une fente longitudinale 37 qui part de son bord arrière et laisse passer 1 ' écrou 33, comme représenté en trait mixte sur la Figure 19.In another variant (Figures 19 and 20), the plate 2 is fixed in a removable manner and adjustable in position and inclination by means of a support plate 31 mounted on the back of the body 19 of the guitar, in a circular recess of this back. The plate 31 is circular and pivots on a threaded rod 32 secured to the body 19. A knurled nut 33 screwed onto it makes it possible to fix its angular position. The plate 31 carries two parallel rails 34 in which four bolt heads 35 can slide. The bolts pass through holes in the plate 2, and their position along the rails 34 can be locked by means of four knurled nuts 35 screwed onto these bolts . The plate 2 also has a longitudinal slot 37 which starts from its rear edge and lets the nut 33 pass, as shown in phantom in Figure 19.
Ainsi, l'instrumentiste, dans un premier temps, règle la position de la platine 2 le long des rails 34, et fixe cette position au moyen des écrous 35, puis, dans un deuxième temps, il règle la position angulaire de l'ensemble plaque 31-platine 2 au moyen de 1 ' écrou 33.Thus, the instrumentalist, firstly, adjusts the position of the plate 2 along the rails 34, and fixes this position by means of the nuts 35, then, in a second step, he adjusts the angular position of the assembly plate 31-plate 2 by means of the nut 33.
Il est à noter que, dans tous les modes de réalisation décrits plus haut, l'angle β doit seulement être maintenu de façon à empêcher sa fermeture en cours d'utilisation du dispositif. En effet, ce dernier a pour fonction essentielle de maintenir à une configuration prédéterminée l'espace, de forme générale triangulaire en vue de dessus (Figures 5 et 5A) , compris entre l'abdomen du joueur et le dos du corps de l'instrument. C'est donc dans ce sens que l'expression " maintien de l'angle β " doit être comprise.It should be noted that, in all the embodiments described above, the angle β must only be maintained so as to prevent it from being closed during use of the device. Indeed, the latter has the essential function of maintaining a configuration predetermined space, generally triangular in shape from above (Figures 5 and 5A), between the player's abdomen and the back of the instrument body. It is therefore in this sense that the expression "maintenance of the angle β" must be understood.
Dans le mode de réalisation 201 de la figure 20, la platine 202 et la bande 203 sont des plaques de matière plastique. La charnière 206 qui les relie est réalisée par un ruban adhésif collé transversalement sur les deux plaques. La face avant de la platine 202 porte un morceau de VELCRO® 38A,et une partie substantielle du dos 219A du corps 219 de l'instrument est recouverte d'un morceau de VELCRO® complémentaire 38B.In the embodiment 201 of FIG. 20, the plate 202 and the strip 203 are plastic plates. The hinge 206 which connects them is produced by an adhesive tape stuck transversely on the two plates. The front face of the plate 202 carries a piece of VELCRO® 38A, and a substantial part of the back 219A of the body 219 of the instrument is covered with a piece of complementary VELCRO® 38B.
La sangle 204 est réalisée en deux parties : une partie 204A qui part de l'extrémité libre de la bande 203, et une partie 204B qui part, vers l'arrière, d'un point intermédiaire de la longueur de la platine 202. Les faces en regard de ces deux parties sont munies de morceaux de VELCRO® complémentaires 39A et 39B. Ainsi, on peut positionner à volonté la platine 202 sur le dos 219A, en hauteur, longueur et orientation, grâce aux morceaux de VELCRO® 38A et 38B, et régler l'angle des plaques 202 et 203 grâce aux morceaux de VELCRO® 39A et 39B. Si l'on n'utilise pas le dispositif 201, il se replie à plat et est très léger et très peu encombrant.The strap 204 is made in two parts: a part 204A which leaves from the free end of the strip 203, and a part 204B which leaves, towards the rear, from an intermediate point of the length of the plate 202. The opposite sides of these two parts are provided with complementary VELCRO® pieces 39A and 39B. Thus, the plate 202 can be positioned as desired on the back 219A, in height, length and orientation, using the pieces of VELCRO® 38A and 38B, and adjusting the angle of the plates 202 and 203 using the pieces of VELCRO® 39A and 39B. If the device 201 is not used, it folds flat and is very light and very compact.
De plus, l'élasticité naturelle des plaques de matière plastique utilisées permet à la platine 202 de s'adapter à un dos 219A non plat, et éventuelleinent à la bande 203 de fléchir légèrement en fournissant un effet de " suspension " de l'instrument.In addition, the natural elasticity of the plastic plates used allows the plate 202 to adapt to a non-flat back 219A, and possibly cause the band 203 to bend slightly, providing a "suspension" effect of the instrument. .
On notera que sur la figure 20, la corne inférieure du corps de l'instrument a été supprimée, pour éviter toute gêne pour l'instrumentiste lorsqu'il s'assoit tout en j ouant . Note that in Figure 20, the lower horn of the body of the instrument has been removed, to avoid any embarrassment for the instrumentalist when he sits while playing.

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1 - Dispositif de positionnement de guitare ou de contrebasse, caractérisé en ce qu'il comprend :1 - Guitar or double bass positioning device, characterized in that it comprises:
- une ligne d'accrochage (7) solidaire ou adaptée pour être rendue solidaire du dos (19A) du corps (19) d'une guitare (G) ou d'une contrebasse (C) ;- An attachment line (7) integral or adapted to be made integral with the back (19A) of the body (19) of a guitar (G) or a double bass (C);
- une bande (4 ; 4A) dont une première extrémité est reliée ou adaptée pour être reliée à ladite ligne d'accrochage, cette bande, en utilisation, épousant sensiblement la face antérieure du tronc de l'instrumentiste; et- a band (4; 4A), a first end of which is connected or adapted to be connected to said attachment line, this band, in use, substantially matching the anterior face of the trunk of the instrumentalist; and
- des moyens (3 ; 23 à 28) pour, en utilisation, maintenir l'angle (β) entre le plan général du dos (19A) dudit corps (19) et la partie adjacente de la bande (4 ; 4A) à une valeur prédéterminée, de préférence réglable.- Means (3; 23 to 28) for, in use, maintaining the angle (β) between the general plane of the back (19A) of said body (19) and the adjacent part of the strip (4; 4A) at a predetermined value, preferably adjustable.
2 - Dispositif suivant la revendication 1, caractérisé en ce que la bande (4 ; 4A) a une longueur utile supérieure à 15 cm et de préférence adaptée pour s'appliquer sur l'abdomen de l'aile iliaque jusqu'au-delà du nombril. 3 - Dispositif suivant la revendication 1 ou 2, caractérisé en ce qu'il comprend des moyens (5) de réglage de la position et/ou de l'inclinaison de la ligne d'accrochage (7) sur le dos (19A) du corps (19) de 1 ' instrument . 4 - Dispositif suivant l'une quelconque des revendications 1 à 3, caractérisé en ce que la ligne d'accrochage (7) est portée par une platine (2) de solidarisation du dispositif (1) à l'instrument (G, C) .2 - Device according to claim 1, characterized in that the strip (4; 4A) has a useful length greater than 15 cm and preferably adapted to be applied on the abdomen of the iliac wing until beyond the belly button. 3 - Device according to claim 1 or 2, characterized in that it comprises means (5) for adjusting the position and / or the inclination of the attachment line (7) on the back (19A) of the body (19) of the instrument. 4 - Device according to any one of claims 1 to 3, characterized in that the attachment line (7) is carried by a plate (2) for securing the device (1) to the instrument (G, C) .
5 - Dispositif suivant la revendication 4, caractérisé en ce que la platine (2) est pourvue de moyens (5) de fixation amovible sur le dos (19A) dudit corps (19) , notamment de ventouses ou de morceaux de feuille à crochets et à boucles (VELCRO®) .5 - Device according to claim 4, characterized in that the plate (2) is provided with means (5) for removable fixing on the back (19A) of said body (19), including suction cups or pieces of sheet with hooks and loops (VELCRO®).
6 - Dispositif suivant la revendication 4, caractérisé en ce que la platine (2) est fixée à demeure au dos (19A) dudit corps (19) .6 - Device according to claim 4, characterized in that the plate (2) is permanently fixed to the back (19A) of said body (19).
7 - Dispositif suivant l'une quelconque des revendications 1 à 6, caractérisé en ce que la bande (4) est souple, et en ce que le dispositif comprend :7 - Device according to any one of Claims 1 to 6, characterized in that the strip (4) is flexible, and in that the device comprises:
- une seconde bande (3) , rigide, dont une première extrémité est adaptée pour prendre appui sur le dos dudit corps (19), notamment par l'intermédiaire d'une articulation (6) , et des moyens (13A, 13B) pour relier ensemble, notamment de façon réglable, les secondes extrémités des deux bandes (3, 4) .- A second strip (3), rigid, a first end of which is adapted to bear on the back of said body (19), in particular by means of a joint (6), and means (13A, 13B) for connect together, in particular in an adjustable manner, the second ends of the two bands (3, 4).
8 - Dispositif suivant l'une quelconque des revendications 1 à 7, caractérisé en ce qu'il comprend en outre une ceinture (22) reliée ou adaptée pour être reliée, par une première extrémité, à la seconde extrémité de la bande (4) et dont l'autre extrémité (23) est adaptée pour se fixer de façon amovible au voisinage (24) de la première extrémité de cette bande (4) .8 - Device according to any one of claims 1 to 7, characterized in that it further comprises a belt (22) connected or adapted to be connected, by a first end, to the second end of the strip (4) and the other end (23) of which is adapted to be removably attached to the vicinity (24) of the first end of this strip (4).
9 - Guitare à bandoulière ou contrebasse, caractérisée en ce qu'elle est équipée d'un dispositif suivant l'une quelconque des revendications 1 à 8.9 - Guitar with shoulder strap or double bass, characterized in that it is equipped with a device according to any one of claims 1 to 8.
10 - Guitare à bandoulière ou contrebasse suivant la revendication 9, caractérisée en ce que le dos (19A) de son corps (19) comporte un evidement (30) de logement de la bande (4) pendant les périodes de non-utilisation du dispositif (1) . 10 - Guitar shoulder strap or double bass according to claim 9, characterized in that the back (19A) of its body (19) has a recess (30) for housing the band (4) during periods of non-use of the device (1).
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