DE2740760C3 - Circuit arrangement for measuring the EMF generated by a brushless DC motor through which current flows - Google Patents

Circuit arrangement for measuring the EMF generated by a brushless DC motor through which current flows

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DE2740760C3
DE2740760C3 DE19772740760 DE2740760A DE2740760C3 DE 2740760 C3 DE2740760 C3 DE 2740760C3 DE 19772740760 DE19772740760 DE 19772740760 DE 2740760 A DE2740760 A DE 2740760A DE 2740760 C3 DE2740760 C3 DE 2740760C3
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Hermann Dipl.-Ing. 8500 Nuernberg Ebert
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Siemens AG
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    • GPHYSICS
    • G01MEASURING; TESTING
    • G01RMEASURING ELECTRIC VARIABLES; MEASURING MAGNETIC VARIABLES
    • G01R31/00Arrangements for testing electric properties; Arrangements for locating electric faults; Arrangements for electrical testing characterised by what is being tested not provided for elsewhere
    • G01R31/34Testing dynamo-electric machines
    • G01R31/343Testing dynamo-electric machines in operation
    • GPHYSICS
    • G01MEASURING; TESTING
    • G01PMEASURING LINEAR OR ANGULAR SPEED, ACCELERATION, DECELERATION, OR SHOCK; INDICATING PRESENCE, ABSENCE, OR DIRECTION, OF MOVEMENT
    • G01P3/00Measuring linear or angular speed; Measuring differences of linear or angular speeds
    • G01P3/42Devices characterised by the use of electric or magnetic means
    • G01P3/44Devices characterised by the use of electric or magnetic means for measuring angular speed

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Patentansprüche:Patent claims: 1. Schaltungsanordnung zum Messen der von einem stromdurchflossenen kollektorlosen Gleichstrommotor erzeugten EMK, insbesondere zum Feststellen der Drehzahl, wobei in Reihe mit der MotorwickJung ein dem inneren Widerstand der Motorwicklung proportionaler eigener Meßwiderstand geschaltet ist, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß der Meßwiderstand aus gleichem Material wie die Motorwicklung besteht und in enger thermischer Kopplung mit dieser angeordnet ist1. Circuit arrangement for measuring the from one current-carrying brushless DC motor generated EMF, in particular for Determining the speed, being in series with the MotorwickJung has its own measuring resistor proportional to the internal resistance of the motor winding is switched, characterized in that that the measuring resistor is made of the same material as the motor winding and in close thermal Coupling is arranged with this 2. Schaltungsanordnung nach Anspruch 1, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß der Meßwiderstand aus einem bifilar oder verdrillt gewickelten Draht besteht und mit der Motorwicklung vergossen ist2. Circuit arrangement according to claim 1, characterized in that the measuring resistor consists of a consists of bifilar or twisted wire and is potted with the motor winding 3. Schaltungsanordnung nach Anspruch 2, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß der bifilar oder verdrillt gewikkelte Draht den gleichen Leitungsquerschnitt wie die Ständerwicklung aufweist3. Circuit arrangement according to claim 2, characterized in that the bifilar or twisted wound Wire has the same cross-section as the stator winding 4. Schaltungsanordnung nach Anspruch 1, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß der Meßwiderstand als geschlossene Windung um die axiale Mitte des Rotors angeordnet ist4. Circuit arrangement according to claim 1, characterized in that the measuring resistor as a closed Winding is arranged around the axial center of the rotor Die Erfindung bezieht sich auf eine Schaltungsanordnung zum Messen der von einem stromdurchflossenen kollektorlosen Gleichstrommotor erzeugten EMK, insbesondere zum Feststellen der Drehzahl, wobei in Reihe mit der Motorwicklung ein dem inneren Widerstand der Motorwicklung proportionaler eigener Meßwiderstand geschaltet ist. Eine Schaltungsanordnung dieser Art ist durch die DE-PS 20 20 555 bekanntgeworden. Bei dieser bekannten Schaltungsanordnung sind in Reihe mit dem Motor eine Spule mit einer der Induktivität des Motors proportionalen Induktivität und ein dem Innenwiderstand des Motors proportionaler ohmscher Widerstand geschaltet. Ferner ist bei der bekannten Schaltungsanordnung ein Operationsverstärker mit zwei Eingängen vorgesehen, dem die an der Induktivität und an dem ohmschen Widerstand abfallende Spannung derart zugeführt werden, daß am Ausgang des Operationsverstärkers eine der EMK des Motors entsprechende Span-The invention relates to a circuit arrangement for measuring the current through which a current flows Brushless DC motor generated emf, in particular to determine the speed, in series with the motor winding an internal resistance of the Motor winding proportional own measuring resistor is connected. A circuit arrangement of this type is from DE-PS 20 20 555 became known. In this known circuit arrangement are in series with the Motor a coil with an inductance proportional to the inductance of the motor and an inductance proportional to the internal resistance of the motor proportional ohmic resistance switched. Furthermore, in the known circuit arrangement an operational amplifier with two inputs is provided, the one at the inductance and one at the ohmic resistance dropping voltage are supplied in such a way that at the output of the operational amplifier a voltage corresponding to the EMF of the motor nung abnehmbar ist. Da ein Motor mit seinen Kupferleitungen und mit seiner thermischen Kapazität im Vergleich zu den extern angeordneten Meßwiderständen eine andere Temperaturabbängigkeit und andere thermische Zeitkonstanten aufweist, tritt bei dieser bekannten Schaltungsanordnung eine Verfälschung der EMK des Motors und damit der Drehzahl auf. Da die Temperaturunterschiede in den Motorwicklungen einerseits und in den externen Meßwiderständen andererseits große Werte erreichen können, ist diese bekannte Schaltung nur eingeschränkt geeignetopening is removable. There is a motor with its copper lines and with its thermal capacitance in comparison to the externally arranged measuring resistors another temperature dependency and another thermal Has time constants, a falsification of the EMF occurs in this known circuit arrangement of the motor and thus the speed. Because the temperature differences in the motor windings on the one hand and, on the other hand, can reach large values in the external measuring resistors, is this known circuit only suitable to a limited extent Der Erfindung liegt die Aufgabe zugrunde, eine Schaltungsanordnung der eingangs gestellten Art so zu verbessern, daß der Störeinfluß durch unterschiedliche Temperaturen praktisch ausgeschaltet wird. Diese Aufgabe wird gemäß der Erfindung dadurch gelöst, daß der Meßwiderstand aus gleichem Material wie die Motorwicklung besteht und in enger thermischer Kopplung mit dieser angeordnet ist Diese Maßnahme läßt sich in besonders einfacher Weise bei den kollcictorlosen Gleichstrommotoren realisieren, weil dort die Motorwicklung ortsfest angeordnet ist Der Widerstand kann also in enger thermischer Kopplung dort in die Motorwicklung eingefügt werden, so daß auf diese Weise eine gleiche Temperaturabhängigkeit und damit gleiche thermische Zeitkonstanten erreicht werden.The invention is based on the object of a circuit arrangement to improve the type set out so that the interference by different Temperatures is practically switched off. This object is achieved according to the invention in that the The measuring resistor is made of the same material as the motor winding and has a close thermal coupling is arranged with this. This measure can be carried out in a particularly simple manner with the kollcictorlosen Realize DC motors because the motor winding is fixed there. The resistance can So be inserted there in close thermal coupling in the motor winding, so that in this way a the same temperature dependency and thus the same thermal time constants can be achieved. Um den Einfluß der magnetischen Feldänderungen bzw. der dadurch induzierten Spannungen zu vermeiden, ist es zweckmäßig, den Meßwiderstand bifilar oder verdrillt auszuführen. Dies kann auch beispielsweise in der Weise vorgenommen werden, daß der Widerstand als geschlossene Windung um die axiale Mitte des Rotors mit einer Flächennormale in ebenfalls axialer Richtung ausgeführt wird.In order to avoid the influence of the magnetic field changes or the voltages induced thereby, it is advisable to make the measuring resistor bifilar or twisted. This can also be done, for example, in be made in such a way that the resistance as a closed turn around the axial center of the rotor is carried out with a surface normal in the axial direction as well. Der Meßwiderstandsdraht kann den gleichen Leitungsquerschnitt wie die Ständerwicklungsdrähte aufweisen. The measuring resistor wire can have the same cross-section as the stator winding wires have. Zur Ermittlung der EMK kann dann eine Schaltungsanordnung verwendet sein, wie sie in der DE-PS 20 20 555 dargestellt ist, nämlich derart, daß die an dem Meßwiderstand abfallende Spannung einem Operationsverstärker derart zugeführt wird, daß am Ausgang des Operationsverstärkers eine der EMK proportionale Spannung unmittelbar abgenommen werden kann. Da die Motor-EMK, wie bereits ausgeführt, der Drehzahl proportional ist, erhält man somit eine Größe, die unmittelbar zur Regelung des Motors dienen kann.A circuit arrangement such as that described in DE-PS can then be used to determine the EMF 20 20 555 is shown, namely in such a way that the voltage drop across the measuring resistor is an operational amplifier is supplied in such a way that at the output of the operational amplifier one of the EMF proportional Voltage can be removed immediately. As the motor EMF, as already stated, the speed is proportional, one thus obtains a quantity that can be used directly to regulate the motor.
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