DE19839287A1 - Method to determine position of edge of rolled metal band - Google Patents
Method to determine position of edge of rolled metal bandInfo
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- G01—MEASURING; TESTING
- G01B—MEASURING LENGTH, THICKNESS OR SIMILAR LINEAR DIMENSIONS; MEASURING ANGLES; MEASURING AREAS; MEASURING IRREGULARITIES OF SURFACES OR CONTOURS
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- B21—MECHANICAL METAL-WORKING WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY REMOVING MATERIAL; PUNCHING METAL
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- B—PERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
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Abstract
Description
Die Erfindung betrifft ein Verfahren bzw. eine Einrichtung zur Bestimmung der Position der Kante eines Metallbandes.The invention relates to a method and a device to determine the position of the edge of a metal strip.
Aufgabe der Erfindung ist es, ein Verfahren bzw. eine Ein richtung zur präzisen und wünschenswerterweise kostengünsti gen Bestimmung der Position der Kante eines Metallbandes an zugeben.The object of the invention is a method or a direction to the precise and desirably inexpensive determination of the position of the edge of a metal strip admit.
Die Aufgabe wird erfindungsgemäß durch ein Verfahren gemäß Anspruch 1 oder Anspruch 2 bzw. eine Einrichtung gemäß An spruch 7 oder Anspruch 8 gelöst. Dabei wird zur Bestimmung der Position einer Kante eines gewalzten Metallbandes mittels zumindest eines Abstandssensors zur Messung des Abstands des Abstandssensors von dem Metallband, wobei der Meßbereich des Abstandssensors unvollständig vom Metallband überdeckt ist, aus dem mittels des Abstandssensors gemessenen Abstands und einem Wert des tatsächlichen Abstands des Abstandssensors von dem Metallband der Grad der Überdeckung des Abstandssensors durch das Metallband errechnet und daraus die Position der Kante des Metallbandes bestimmt. Alternativ dazu wird zur Be stimmung der Position einer Kante eines gewalzten Metallban des mittels zumindest zweier Abstandssensoren zur Messung der Abstände der Abstandssensoren von dem Metallband, wobei der Meßbereich eines ersten Abstandssensors unvollständig und der Meßbereich eines zweiten Abstandssensors vollständig vom Me tallband überdeckt ist, aus den mittels der Abstandssensoren gemessenen Abständen der Grad der Überdeckung des ersten Ab standssensors durch das Metallband errechnet und daraus die Position der Kante des Metallbandes bestimmt.The object is achieved according to the invention by a method Claim 1 or claim 2 or a device according to An claim 7 or claim 8 solved. It becomes a determination the position of an edge of a rolled metal strip by means of at least one distance sensor for measuring the distance of the Distance sensor from the metal strip, the measuring range of Distance sensor is not completely covered by the metal strip, from the distance measured by means of the distance sensor and a value of the actual distance of the distance sensor from the degree of coverage of the distance sensor calculated by the metal band and from this the position of the Edge of the metal band determined. Alternatively, Be the position of an edge of a rolled metal ban by means of at least two distance sensors for measuring the Distances of the distance sensors from the metal strip, the Measuring range of a first distance sensor is incomplete and the Measuring range of a second distance sensor completely from the me tallband is covered, by means of the distance sensors measured distances the degree of coverage of the first Ab level sensor calculated by the metal strip and from it the Position of the edge of the metal strip determined.
Auf diese Weise ist es möglich, die Position der Kante eines Metallbandes besonders präzise und auf kostengünstige Weise zu bestimmen. In this way it is possible to determine the position of the edge of a Metal strip particularly precise and inexpensive to determine.
In vorteilhafter Ausgestaltung der Erfindung wird die Posi tion der Kante des Metallbandes aus den gemessenen Abständen mehrerer Abstandssensoren, deren Meßbereich vollständig vom Metallband überdeckt ist, bestimmt.In an advantageous embodiment of the invention, the Posi tion of the edge of the metal strip from the measured distances several distance sensors, whose measuring range is completely from Metal band is covered, determined.
In weiterhin vorteilhafter Ausgestaltung der Erfindung wird die Kante des Metallbandes aus zeitlichen Mittelwerten der mittels der Abstandssensoren gemessenen Abstände hestimmt.In a further advantageous embodiment of the invention the edge of the metal strip from temporal averages of the distances measured by means of the distance sensors.
In weiterhin vorteilhafter Ausgestaltung der Erfindung wird die Kante des Metallbandes mittels abgespeicherter Kalibrie rungskurven bestimmt.In a further advantageous embodiment of the invention the edge of the metal strip using stored calibration determined.
In vorteilhafter Ausgestaltung der Erfindung wird die Breite des Metallbandes durch Bestimmung der Positionen beider Kan ten des Metallbandes bestimmt, wobei beide Positionen vonein ander subtrahiert werden.In an advantageous embodiment of the invention, the width of the metal strip by determining the positions of both channels ten of the metal strip, with both positions of one others are subtracted.
Weitere Vorteile und Einzelheiten ergeben sich aus der nach folgenden Beschreibung von Ausführungsbeispielen und aus den Unteransprüchen. Im einzelnen zeigen:Further advantages and details emerge from the following description of exemplary embodiments and from the Subclaims. In detail show:
Fig. 1 ein Ausführungsbeispiel für die Erfindung, Fig. 1 shows an embodiment of the invention,
Fig. 2 ein Beispiel für einen Zusammenhang zwischen Aus gangsspannung eines Abstandssensors und dessen Überdeckungsgrad durch das Metallband, Fig. 2 shows an example of a relationship between output voltage from a distance sensor and the degree of overlap of the metal strip,
Fig. 3 eine Kennlinie für verschiedene Abstände. Fig. 3 shows a characteristic curve for different distances.
Fig. 1 zeigt ein Ausführungsbeispiel der Erfindung. Dabei be zeichnet Bezugszeichen 1 ein Metallband. Dieses Metallband ist im Querschnitt dargestellt. Es sind Abstandssensoren 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 und 8 vorgesehen. Die Abstandssensoren 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 und 8 haben bestimmte Meßbereiche 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 zur Messung ihres Abstandes vom Metallband 1. Der Meß bereich 9 des Abstandssensors 2 wird jedoch nicht vollständig vom Metallband 1 abgedeckt. Er liefert deshalb verfälschte Meßwerte. Fig. 1 shows an embodiment of the invention. Reference numeral 1 denotes a metal strip. This metal strip is shown in cross section. Distance sensors 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and 8 are provided. The distance sensors 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and 8 have certain measuring ranges 9 , 10 , 11 , 12 , 13 , 14 , 15 for measuring their distance from the metal strip 1 . The measuring area 9 of the distance sensor 2 is not completely covered by the metal strip 1 . It therefore supplies falsified measured values.
Das Ausmaß einer solchen Meßwertverfälschung ist beispielhaft in Fig. 2 dargestellt, wobei die Ausgangsspannung U eines Ab standssensors bei einem festen Abstand h über dessen Position P in bezug auf das Metallband 1 dargestellt ist. In Fig. 2 sind drei Bereiche 30, 31, 32 dargestellt. Im Bereich 30 ist der Abstandssensor, der etwa einen Gesamtmeßbereich von 20 mm abdeckt, nicht durch das Metallband 1 abgedeckt. Im Bereich 31 ist der Abstandssensor teilweise von dem Metallband 1 ab gedeckt. Im Bereich 32 ist der Abstandssensor vollständig vom Metallband 1 abgedeckt.The extent of such a measured value falsification is shown by way of example in FIG. 2, the output voltage U of a position sensor being shown at a fixed distance h above its position P with respect to the metal strip 1 . Two areas 30 , 31 , 32 are shown in FIG . In the area 30 , the distance sensor, which covers approximately a total measuring area of 20 mm, is not covered by the metal strip 1 . In the area 31 , the distance sensor is partially covered by the metal strip 1 . In the area 32 , the distance sensor is completely covered by the metal strip 1 .
Der Abstand h zwischen den Abstandssensoren 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 und 8 und dem Metallband 1 wird zur Berechnung der Überdec kung des Metallbandes 1 z. B. einer Recheneinrichtung eingege ben, mittels der die Bestimmung der Überdeckung des Metall bandes 1 durch den Meßbereich 9 des Abstandssensors 2 berech net wird. Vorteilhaft ist es jedoch, diesen Abstand online zu bestimmen. Dazu wird der zeitliche Mittelwert der Aus gangssignale der Abstandssensoren 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, die vollständig vom Metallband 1 überdeckt sind, gebildet. Aus diesem Gleichanteil wird der Abstand der Abstandssensoren 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 und 8 von dem Metallband 1 bestimmt.The distance h between the distance sensors 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and 8 and the metal strip 1 is used to calculate the overdec tion of the metal strip 1 z. B. a computing device, by means of which the determination of the coverage of the metal strip 1 by the measuring range 9 of the distance sensor 2 is calculated. However, it is advantageous to determine this distance online. For this purpose, the time average of the output signals from the distance sensors 10 , 11 , 12 , 13 , 14 , which are completely covered by the metal strip 1 , is formed. The distance between the distance sensors 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 and 8 from the metal strip 1 is determined from this direct component.
Die Kennlinie in Fig. 2 ist nur für einen definierten Abstand
h gültig. Um für beliebige Abstände eine Kennlinie zu erhal
ten und gleichzeitig den Aufwand bei der Kalibrierung gering
zu halten, wird folgendes Verfahren angewandt (siehe Fig. 3):
Für zwei Abstände h1 und h2 werden jeweils ca. 10 Meßpunkte,
in Fig. 3 dargestellt durch Kreuze (von denen eines exempla
risch mit Bezugszeichen 33 bezeichnet ist), bei verschiedenen
Bandkantenpositionen P abgespeichert. Für einen beliebigen
Wert h, für den h1 < h < h2 gilt, können die entsprechenden 10
Meßpunkte durch lineare Interpolation berechnet werden. Die
Stützstellen, die durch lineare Interpolation ermittelt wer
den, sind in Fig. 3 durch Kreise dargestellt, von denen einer
exemplarisch mit Bezugszeichen 37 bezeichnet ist.The characteristic curve in FIG. 2 is only valid for a defined distance h. The following procedure is used to obtain a characteristic curve for any distance and at the same time to keep the calibration effort low (see Fig. 3):
For two distances h 1 and h 2 , about 10 measuring points each, shown in FIG. 3 by crosses (one of which is designated by reference numeral 33 ), are stored at different strip edge positions P. For any value h, for which h 1 <h <h 2 applies, the corresponding 10 measuring points can be calculated by linear interpolation. The interpolation points, which are determined by linear interpolation, are represented in FIG. 3 by circles, one of which is designated by way of example with reference number 37 .
Anschließend wird durch die 10 Kalibrierwerte eine passende Funktion 36 gefittet (least-square-fit). Als Fit-Funktion kommt vorteilhafterweise die Fermi-Verteilung in Frage.A suitable function 36 is then fitted using the 10 calibration values (least-square-fit). The Fermi distribution is advantageously a suitable fit function.
Dabei ist U die Ausgangsspannung des Abständssensors, P ist die horizontale Bandkantenposition und a0, a1, a2, a3 sind Fitparameter, die durch den Fitalgorithmus bestimmt werden.U is the output voltage of the distance sensor, P is the horizontal band edge position and a 0 , a 1 , a 2 , a 3 are fit parameters which are determined by the fit algorithm.
Bezugszeichen 34 und 35 bezeichnen die entsprechenden Kurven für h2 und h1.Reference numerals 34 and 35 denote the corresponding curves for h 2 and h 1 .
Zum Bestimmen der Bandkante wird die Abstandssensorspannung U
gemessen und daraus die Bandkantenposition berechnet. Dazu
wird die Umkehrfunktion obiger Formel gebildet:
To determine the strip edge, the distance sensor voltage U is measured and the strip edge position is calculated therefrom. To do this, the inverse function of the above formula is formed:
Soll die Bandkante über einen weiten Bereich bestimmt werden,
so werden mehrere Abstandssensoren dicht nebeneinander ge
setzt wie in Fig. 1 gezeigt. Zur Auswertung der Bandkante wird
der Abstandssensor herangezogen, der nur teilweise bedeckt
ist. Das ist der Abstandssensor, für den der Ausdruck
If the band edge is to be determined over a wide range, a plurality of distance sensors are placed close together as shown in FIG. 1. The distance sensor, which is only partially covered, is used to evaluate the strip edge. This is the distance sensor for which the expression
minimal ist.is minimal.
Umax ist dabei die Ausgangsspannung eines unbedeckten Ab standssensors und Umin die Ausgangsspannung eines vollständig bedeckten Abstandssensors. Oben bezeichnete Berechnungen wer den vorteilhafterweise mittels einer nicht dargestellten Re cheneinrichtung durchgeführt. U max is the output voltage of an uncovered distance sensor and U min is the output voltage of a completely covered distance sensor. The above-mentioned calculations are carried out advantageously by means of a computing device (not shown).
Auf diese Weise ist es möglich, einen sehr genauen Wert für die Position der Bandkante des Metallbandes 1 zu erhalten. Dieser kann vorteilhafterweise für die weitere Steuerung der Walzstraße verwendet werden.In this way it is possible to obtain a very precise value for the position of the band edge of the metal band 1 . This can advantageously be used for the further control of the rolling mill.
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