CN103828251A - 一种兼容vdsl2传统用户端设备的方法、装置及系统 - Google Patents
一种兼容vdsl2传统用户端设备的方法、装置及系统 Download PDFInfo
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本发明实施例提供了一种兼容VDSL2中传统用户端设备的方法,包括在传统线路的子载波中选择预设位置的子载波作为训练子载波;控制所述训练子载波不传输数据并在所述训练子载波中调制导频序列;在矢量线路上计算并反馈截取误差;根据所述导频序列及截取误差计算在所述训练子载波上,所述传统线路对矢量线路的串扰系数。本发明实施例还提供了一种兼容VDSL2中传统用户端设备的装置及系统,采用本发明,可在不增加成本且不改变现有传统用户端设备的前提下,得到传统线路对矢量线路的串扰系数,进而消除传统线路对矢量线路的串音,实现Vectored-DSL系统对传统用户端设备的兼容。
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PCT国内申请,说明书已公开。
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