CH133302A - Arrangement for supplying excitation windings with slip frequency on rear commutator machines with a voltage proportional to the slip in order to cancel the inductive voltage drop on the excitation winding. - Google Patents

Arrangement for supplying excitation windings with slip frequency on rear commutator machines with a voltage proportional to the slip in order to cancel the inductive voltage drop on the excitation winding.

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CH133302A
CH133302A CH133302DA CH133302A CH 133302 A CH133302 A CH 133302A CH 133302D A CH133302D A CH 133302DA CH 133302 A CH133302 A CH 133302A
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Aktieng Siemens-Schuckertwerke
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  Anordnung zur Speisung von Schlupffrequenz führenden Erregerwicklungen  an Kommutatorhintermaschinen mit einer dem Schlupf proportionalen Spannung  zwecks Aufhebung des induktiven Spannungsabfalles an der Erregerwicklung.    An Kommutatorhintermaschinen belie  biger Bau- und Antriebsart, die zwecks  Drehzahlregelung oder Phasenkompensierung  in den Sekundärstromkreis von Asynchron  maschinen eingeschaltet sind, kann die Er  regerwicklung im Ständer angeordnet sein,  so dass ihr Strom Schlupffrequenz besitzt.  Für die Speisung dieser Erregerwicklung  ist es bekannt, in Hintereinanderschaltung  einen vom Netz gespeisten Frequenzwandler  und einen von den Schleifringen der asyn  chronen Vordermaschine gespeisten Schlupf  frequenz führenden Transformator vorzu  sehen.

   Die Anordnung ist derart eingestellt,  dass der Frequenzwandler den Ohmschen  Spannungsabfall in der Erregerwicklung der  Hintermaschine aufhebt, die Spannung des  Transformators den induktiven. Es hat sich  nun gezeigt, dass bei dieser Anordnung  Schwankungen in der Belastung der asyn-    chronen Vordermaschine den Regelvorgang  in unerwünschter Weise beeinflussen. Dies  rührt davon her, dass die Spannung des  Transformators, da dieser an die Schleif  ringe der Asynchronmaschine angeschlossen  ist, in ihrer Grösse und in ihrer Phase durch  den dem Belastungsstrom proportionalen  Ohmschen Spannungsabfall in der Sekun  därwicklung der Asynchronmaschine beein  flusst wird, so dass sie namentlich in der  Nähe des Synchronismus eine starke Abwei  chung von der vorgeschriebenen Grösse und  Phase zeigt.

   Infolgedessen hebt die Span  nung des Transformators auch den induk  tiven Spannungsabfall in der Erregerwick  lung der Kommutatormaschine nicht genau  auf, so     dass    :der Regelvorgang gestört wird.  



  Dieser Nachteil wird bei .der Anordnung  nach der Erfindung dadurch     vermieden,    dass  die Erregerwicklung im Ständer der Kom-      mutatorhintermaschine zur Aufhebung ihres  induktiven Spannungsabfalles von einer  Hilfswicklung aus gespeist wird, die im  Sekundärteil einer von dem die asynchrone  Vordermaschine speisenden Netz gespeisten  Asynchronmaschine angeordnet ist, und die  denselben Schlupf wie die Sekundärwick  lung der asynchronen Vordermaschine be  sitzt. Die Hilfswicklung kann dabei die  Sekundärwicklung einer asynchronen Hilfs  maschine darstellen, die mit der asynchronen  Vordermaschine synchron umläuft. Sie kann  aber auch im Sekundärteil der asynchronen  Vordermaschine selbst angeordnet sein. We  sentlich ist in beiden Fällen, dass in ihr der  sekundäre Belastungsstrom der asynchronen  Vordermaschine nicht fliesst.

   Die Spannung  der Hilfswicklung ist daher vom Ohmschen  Spannungsabfall des sekundären Belastungs  stromes der Vordermaschine unabhängig, so  dass auch störende Nebenerscheinungen ver  mieden werden.  



  Die Zeichnung zeigt ein Ausführungs  beispiel der Erfindung. 1 ist die asynchrone  Vordermaschine, 2 die Kommutatorhinterma  schine mit der Kompensationswicklung 3  und der Erregerwicklung 4. Diese wird in  Hintereinanderschaltung von dem vom Netz  gespeisten Frequenzwandler 5 und von dem  Regeltransformator 6 gespeist, wobei der  Transformator 6 die zur Deckung des induk  tiven Spannungsabfalles erforderliche Span  nung liefert. Der Transformator 6 ist an  Hilfsschleifringe 7 angeschlossen, die mit  einer Hilfswicklung 8 im Sekundärteil der  Asynchronmaschine 1 verbunden sind. 9 ist  die sekundäre Hauptwicklung der Maschine  1. Wie bereits erwähnt kann statt der Hilfs  wicklung 8 auch eine mit der Maschine 1  gekuppelte Hilfsasynchronmaschine vorge  sehen sein, deren Ständer an das Netz ange-    schlossen ist und deren Läuferwicklung die  Erregerwicklung 4 speist.

   Selbstverständ  lich kann die Anordnung auch zur Speisung  der Erregerwicklung einer Hilfskommuta  torhintermaschine benutzt werden, die ihrer  seits wiederum die Erregung für die Haupt  kommutatorhintermaschine liefert.



  Arrangement for supplying excitation windings with slip frequency on rear commutator machines with a voltage proportional to the slip in order to cancel the inductive voltage drop on the excitation winding. On commutator rear machines of any type and type of drive that are switched on for speed control or phase compensation in the secondary circuit of asynchronous machines, the excitation winding can be arranged in the stator so that their current has a slip frequency. For the supply of this excitation winding, it is known to see in series connection a frequency converter fed by the network and a slip frequency-leading transformer fed by the slip rings of the asynchronous front machine.

   The arrangement is set in such a way that the frequency converter cancels the ohmic voltage drop in the field winding of the rear machine, the voltage of the transformer the inductive one. It has now been shown that with this arrangement fluctuations in the load on the asynchronous front machine influence the control process in an undesirable manner. This is due to the fact that the voltage of the transformer, since it is connected to the slip rings of the asynchronous machine, is influenced in its size and phase by the ohmic voltage drop in the secondary winding of the asynchronous machine, which is proportional to the load current, so that it is named shows a strong deviation from the prescribed size and phase near synchronism.

   As a result, the voltage of the transformer does not exactly cancel out the inductive voltage drop in the excitation winding of the commutator machine, so that: The control process is disturbed.



  This disadvantage is avoided in the arrangement according to the invention in that the excitation winding in the stator of the commutator rear machine is fed to the elimination of its inductive voltage drop from an auxiliary winding which is arranged in the secondary part of an asynchronous machine fed by the mains supplying the asynchronous front machine, and the same slip as the secondary winding of the asynchronous front machine be seated. The auxiliary winding can represent the secondary winding of an asynchronous auxiliary machine that rotates synchronously with the asynchronous front machine. But it can also be arranged in the secondary part of the asynchronous front machine itself. In both cases it is essential that the secondary load current of the asynchronous front machine does not flow in it.

   The voltage of the auxiliary winding is therefore independent of the ohmic voltage drop of the secondary load current of the front machine, so that annoying side effects are also avoided.



  The drawing shows an embodiment of the invention. 1 is the asynchronous front machine, 2 the commutator rear machine with the compensation winding 3 and the exciter winding 4. This is fed in series from the frequency converter 5 fed by the mains and from the regulating transformer 6, with the transformer 6 providing the span required to cover the inductive voltage drop supply. The transformer 6 is connected to auxiliary slip rings 7 which are connected to an auxiliary winding 8 in the secondary part of the asynchronous machine 1. 9 is the secondary main winding of the machine 1. As already mentioned, instead of the auxiliary winding 8, an auxiliary asynchronous machine coupled to the machine 1 can be provided, the stator of which is connected to the mains and the rotor winding of which feeds the field winding 4.

   Of course, the arrangement can also be used to feed the excitation winding of an auxiliary commutator rear machine, which in turn supplies the excitation for the main commutator rear machine.

 

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PATENTANSPRUCH: Anordnung zur Speisung der Schlupf frequenz führenden Erregerwicklung an Kommutatorhintermaschinen, die in den Se kundärstromkreis von asynchronen Vorder maschinen eingeschaltet sind, mit einer dem Schlupf proportionalen Spannung zwecks Aufhebung des induktiven Spannungsab falles in der Erregerwicklung, gekennzeich net durch eine Hilfswicklung, die im Sekun därteil einer von dem die asynchrone Vor dermaschine speisenden Netz gespeisten Asynchronmaschine angeordnet ist, und den selben Schlupf wie die Sekundärwicklung der asynchronen Vordermaschine besitzt und die die Erregerwicklung der Kommutator hintermaschine speist. UNTERANSPRÜCHE: 1. Anordnung nach dem Patentanspruch, da durch gekennzeichnet, dass die die Hilfs wicklung tragende Asynchronmaschine eine Hilfsmaschine ist, die mit der asyn chronen Vordermaschine synchron läuft. 2. PATENT CLAIM: Arrangement for supplying the excitation winding with slip frequency on the commutator rear machines, which are switched on in the secondary circuit of asynchronous front machines, with a voltage proportional to the slip for the purpose of eliminating the inductive voltage drop in the excitation winding, marked by an auxiliary winding that runs in seconds Därteil an asynchronous machine fed by the asynchronous power supply before the machine is arranged, and has the same slip as the secondary winding of the asynchronous front machine and which feeds the excitation winding of the commutator rear machine. SUBClaims: 1. Arrangement according to claim, characterized in that the asynchronous machine carrying the auxiliary winding is an auxiliary machine that runs synchronously with the asynchronous front machine. 2. Anordnung nach dem Patentanspruch, da idurch gekennzeichnet, dass die die Hilfs wicklung tragende Asynchronmaschine die asynchrone Vordermaschine selbst ist. Arrangement according to claim, characterized in that the asynchronous machine carrying the auxiliary winding is the asynchronous front machine itself.
CH133302D 1927-05-24 1928-04-18 Arrangement for supplying excitation windings with slip frequency on rear commutator machines with a voltage proportional to the slip in order to cancel the inductive voltage drop on the excitation winding. CH133302A (en)

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