EP3454568B1 - Mikrofonvorverstärker mit polarisationsspannungsversorgung - Google Patents
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- H04—ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUE
- H04R—LOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; ELECTRIC HEARING AIDS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
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- H04R—LOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; ELECTRIC HEARING AIDS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
- H04R1/00—Details of transducers, loudspeakers or microphones
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- H04R—LOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; ELECTRIC HEARING AIDS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
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- the invention relates to a system of at least one microphone and a remote signal analyzer connected to the microphone with two wires to transmit an audio signal back to the analyzer and to receive a constant input current on one of the wires from the analyzer, which microphone comprises an acoustic sensor and a pre-amplifier powered with the constant input current to amplify the audio signal from the acoustic sensor.
- Measurement microphones are known with two different microphone versions: one pre-polarized and one that requires external polarization. The pre-polarized is more complicated and expensive to make in a measurement quality. Furthermore measurement microphones are known in two different interface versions: The first version is a multi-wire interface with separate wires for power, which includes polarization voltage which enables use of both microphone versions.
- a two wire interface is used, here the power is sourced to the transducer on the same two wires as a constant current and the transducer signal is being overlaid as a voltage on the same two wires.
- a pre-amplifier of the microphone is powered by the constant current of typically 2 to 4mA applied between the wires and the acoustic sensor signal is transmitted back to the analyzer as a voltage on the two wires.
- the applied current is required to drive the preamplifier and capacitive load from the cable; any use of the available current for other purposes will degrade the capability to drive the cable.
- pre-polarized microphone capsules may be used in state of the arte microphones with this second interface version.
- Known power supplies used in these microphones are not able to generate the stabile and high voltage needed from this small input current, which voltage in addition varies with the audio signal of the acoustic sensor. This is a problem as microphones with pre-polarized microphone capsules are more complicated and expensive to make in a measurement quality.
- This object is achieved with a system with a microphone that comprises a polarization voltage supply connected to the two wires to polarize the microphone, which polarization voltage supply comprises: a transformation stage to transform a partial part of the constant input current on the one wire from the remote signal analyzer into an output voltage with a first voltage level and a voltage increaser stage to increase the voltage level of the output voltage into an increased output voltage with a second voltage level and a noise reduction stage to provide a polarization voltage to the acoustic sensor.
- the polarization voltage supply of the claimed system is able to generate the polarization voltage of about 200V from the very limited input current available to power the microphone, by taking only approx. 0.25mA from the available input current.
- the power source for this polarization voltage supply is from a voltage between the two wires varying with the audio signal and the very limited current available primary reserved for the analog pre-amplifier and the driving of the capacity load of the two wires. This provides the advantage that un-polarized microphones may be used in combination with a two wire interface. This reduces the technical complexity and costs for larger systems with a substantial number of microphones connected to the analyzer and increases the reliability and quality of the audio signals.
- stages of the claimed polarization voltage supply may be known as such and even may be used in combination in other technical fields to generate a stabilized power, this never has been done for constant current power supplied microphones due to limited space and available power, where precision and low noise is a core specification and in particular for microphones connected to an analyzer.
- precision and low noise is a core specification and in particular for microphones connected to an analyzer.
- Figure 1 shows a system 1 of four sensors realized as microphones 2 and a remote signal analyzer 3, wherein one of the microphones 2 is shown in detail. All four microphones 2 are connected with a coax-cable 4 that comprises two wires, a signal wire 5 and a shield wire 6. Other two wire cables could be used as well as interface between the microphones 2 and the analyzer 3.
- Each of the microphones 2 comprises an acoustic sensor 7, that is built as acoustic transducer with a membrane to measure the physical parameter of noise or sound.
- Microphones 2 of system 1 may for instance be attached on the surface of a wing of a test airplane to sense turbulences and to improve the surface of the wing.
- Analyzer 3 is built to transfer a constant input current I in over signal wire 5 to the microphones 2.
- Figure 3 shows that part of analyzer 3 that generates the constant input current I in and amplifies the audio signal U aud received from microphone 2.
- Microphones 2 comprise a polarization voltage supply 8 connected to signal wire 5 to generate a polarization voltage U pol at a capacity 10 of an acoustic sensor 7 and a pre-amplifier 9 of the microphones 2.
- the pre-amplifier 9 is used to amplify an audio signal generated by the acoustic sensor 7, which is built with a membrane that forms the capacity 10 that changes with the amount of noise or sound at the membrane.
- Microphone 2 is capsuled with a housing and needs to be polarized by the high precision low noise polarization voltage U pol of about 200V, which thereby transforms the change in capacity 10 direct proportional into a high impedance voltage signal to be fed to the pre-amplifier 9.
- Polarization voltage supply 8 comprises a transformation stage 11 to transform a partial part of the constant input current I in on signal wire 5, shown in figures 1 and 2 as transformation current I T , from the remote signal analyzer 3 into a stabilized output voltage U stab with a first voltage level, which could be in the rage of e.g. 5V to 15V. Transformation stage 11 could be realized by an integrated precision power supply circuit available on the market as shown in figure 2 .
- Polarization voltage supply 8 furthermore comprises a voltage increaser stage 12 to increase the voltage level of the high precision stabilized output voltage U stab into an increased output voltage U high with a second voltage level, which could be in the rage of e.g. 20V to 300V and typically is about 200V.
- Voltage increaser stage 12 is realized as charge pump circuit known to a man skilled in the art that consists of a row of capacitors and diodes driven by a switching circuit and could be integrated in C-MOS technology. Such a charge pump circuit with an oscillator 13 is shown in figure 2 .
- Polarization voltage supply 8 furthermore comprises a noise reduction stage 14, as shown in figure 2 , to provide a polarization voltage sourced through resistance R to the microphone 7, which could be in the range of e.g. 10 to 50 G ⁇ and typically is 20 G ⁇ .
- the polarization voltage U pol is used to polarize the un-polarized microphone 2, thereby transforming the change in capacity direct proportional into a voltage signal. This provides that advantage that although only a two wire interface is used between microphones 2 and analyzer 3 an un-polarized microphones 2 may be used.
- the sequence of the transformation stage 11 and the voltage increaser stage 12 could be exchanged. This means that a voltage generated from the partial part of the constant input current I in would first be stabilized and then increased and afterwards processed in the noise reduction stage 14. In another embodiment both stages would be combined and processed in one stage. This sequence of generating the polarization voltage U pol would lead to the same advantages as for the embodiment shown in figures 1 to 3 .
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- System (1) aus mindestens einem Mikrofon (2) und einem Femsignalanalysator (3), der mit nur zwei Drähten (5, 6) mit dem Mikrofon (2) verbunden ist, um ein Audiosignal (Uaud) zurück zum Analysator zu übertragen und um einen konstanten Eingangsstrom (Iin) auf einem der Drähte (5) vom Analysator (3) zu empfangen,
wobei das Mikrofon (2) einen akustischen Sensor (7) und einen Vorverstärker (9), der mit dem konstanten Eingangsstrom (Iin) angetrieben wird, umfasst, um das Audiosignal (Uaud) von dem akustischen Sensor (7), das zum Analysator (3) über die zwei Drähte (5, 6) zurück übertragen wird, zu verstärken, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass das Mikrofon (2) eine Polarisationsspannungsversorgung (8) umfasst, die mit den zwei Drähten (5, 6) verbunden ist, um das Mikrofon (10) zu polarisieren, wobei die Polarisationsspannungsversorgung (8) umfasst:eine Transformationsstufe (11), um einen Teil des konstanten Eingangsstroms (Iin) auf dem einen Draht (5) von dem Femsignalanalysator (3) in eine Ausgangsspannung (Ustab) mit einem ersten Spannungspegel zu transformieren, undeine Spannungsübersetzungsstufe (12), um den Spannungspegel der Ausgangsspannung (Ustab) in eine übersetzte Ausgangsspannung (Uhigh) mit einem zweiten Spannungspegel zu übersetzen, undeine Rauschunterdrückungsstufe (13), um dem akustischen Sensor (7) eine Polarisationsspannung (Upol) bereitzustellen. - System (1) gemäß Anspruch 1, wobei die Polarisationsspannung (Upol) durch einen Widerstand (R) zu einer als akustischer Sensor verwendeten Mikrofonkapsel gelagert wird.
- System gemäß Anspruch 1 oder 2, wobei die Transformationsstufe (11) als eine integrierte Schaltung ausgeführt ist.
- System (1) gemäß einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 3, wobei die Spannungsübersetzungsstufe (12) als eine Ladepumpschaltung ausgeführt ist, die aus einer Reihe von Kondensatoren und Dioden besteht, die durch einen Schaltkreis angetrieben werden.
- System (1) gemäß einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 4, wobei die Rauschunterdrückungsstufe (13) als ein RC-Filter ausgeführt ist.
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| DK17190512.8T DK3454568T3 (da) | 2017-09-12 | 2017-09-12 | Mikrofon-forforstærker med polariseringsspændingsforsyning |
| EP17190512.8A EP3454568B1 (de) | 2017-09-12 | 2017-09-12 | Mikrofonvorverstärker mit polarisationsspannungsversorgung |
| PL17190512T PL3454568T3 (pl) | 2017-09-12 | 2017-09-12 | Przedwzmacniacz do mikrofonu ze źródłem napięcia polaryzacji |
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| EP3454568B1 true EP3454568B1 (de) | 2020-10-28 |
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| EP4354728A1 (de) | 2022-10-14 | 2024-04-17 | Centrum Astronomiczne im. Mikolaja Kopernika Polskiej Akademii Nauk | Vorverstärker für ein im infraschallfrequenzbereich arbeitendes kapazitatormikrofon |
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