EP1676360A1 - Method and apparatus for determining the position of the rotor of an elevator motor - Google Patents
Method and apparatus for determining the position of the rotor of an elevator motorInfo
- Publication number
- EP1676360A1 EP1676360A1 EP04767115A EP04767115A EP1676360A1 EP 1676360 A1 EP1676360 A1 EP 1676360A1 EP 04767115 A EP04767115 A EP 04767115A EP 04767115 A EP04767115 A EP 04767115A EP 1676360 A1 EP1676360 A1 EP 1676360A1
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- Prior art keywords
- rotor
- motor
- vibration
- angle
- determining
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- 238000000034 method Methods 0.000 title claims abstract description 21
- 230000001360 synchronised effect Effects 0.000 claims abstract description 7
- 230000001133 acceleration Effects 0.000 claims description 4
- 230000010363 phase shift Effects 0.000 claims 1
- XEEYBQQBJWHFJM-UHFFFAOYSA-N Iron Chemical compound [Fe] XEEYBQQBJWHFJM-UHFFFAOYSA-N 0.000 description 2
- 230000005415 magnetization Effects 0.000 description 2
- 238000012544 monitoring process Methods 0.000 description 2
- 230000001846 repelling effect Effects 0.000 description 2
- 229910052742 iron Inorganic materials 0.000 description 1
- 229920000136 polysorbate Polymers 0.000 description 1
- 238000005070 sampling Methods 0.000 description 1
Classifications
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- B—PERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
- B66—HOISTING; LIFTING; HAULING
- B66B—ELEVATORS; ESCALATORS OR MOVING WALKWAYS
- B66B1/00—Control systems of elevators in general
- B66B1/34—Details, e.g. call counting devices, data transmission from car to control system, devices giving information to the control system
- B66B1/3492—Position or motion detectors or driving means for the detector
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- B—PERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
- B66—HOISTING; LIFTING; HAULING
- B66B—ELEVATORS; ESCALATORS OR MOVING WALKWAYS
- B66B11/00—Main component parts of lifts in, or associated with, buildings or other structures
- B66B11/04—Driving gear ; Details thereof, e.g. seals
- B66B11/043—Driving gear ; Details thereof, e.g. seals actuated by rotating motor; Details, e.g. ventilation
Definitions
- the present invention relates to a method as defined in the preamble of claim 1 and an apparatus as defined in the preamble of claim 5 for determining the position of the rotor of an elevator motor.
- the torque of a synchronous motor is proportional to the angular difference be- tween the rotor magnetic field and the stator magnetic field, i.e. to the rotor angle.
- the torque is at a maximum when the rotor angle is 90° and it falls according to the sine function as the rotor angle changes.
- the torque curve of synchronous motors designed for use in an elevator drive is a nearly sinusoidal function of the rotor angle.
- the function of the control system controlling the elevator motor is to keep the torque at the maximum point.
- a method for determining the position of the rotor of a synchronous motor dis- closed in specification WO-A2-02/065139 allows the absolute angular position of the rotor to be computed while the rotor is stationary by monitoring the saturation of the stator iron.
- an alternating current having a certain frequency and phase angle is fed into the stator, samples are taken at given intervals from the current fed in and the voltage obtained, and the stator induc- tance is calculated from these voltage and current values. After that, the phase angle is increased a certain number of times over the 360-degree cycle and the current feed, sampling and calculation are repeated, thus obtaining a certain number of calculated stator inductances.
- the object of the present invention is to overcome the drawbacks of prior art and create new type of arrangement that can be used to determine the position of the rotor of an elevator motor without moving the rotor and by using relatively low magnetization.
- the system of the invention is mainly based on the property of an axial motor that it tends to work as a sound reproducer when the rotor and stator are moving on the shaft.
- the angular position of the rotor is detected without releasing the brake by feeding a current of a frequency of about 50...200 Hz into the motor and measuring the vibration of the machine as a function of the rotor angle.
- the invention increases the areas of application of especially permanent- magnet synchronous motors with no angle feedback used in elevators.
- the arrangement of the invention is an advantageous way of finding the rotor angle.
- the invention is safe because the brakes need not be released and the correct angle can be determined more reliably than by prior-art methods.
- the method of the invention can be relatively easily automated, because the elevator is not moving and therefore fewer monitoring and safeguarding measures are required.
- Fig. 1 is a simplified diagrammatic representation of the apparatus of the invention for determining the rotor angle of an elevator motor.
- Fig. 1 presents an apparatus comprising an elevator motor 1 , which may be a flat axial motor placed in the elevator shaft and which has a permanent magnet rotor 11 and a stator 12, which is driven by means of a frequency converter 2.
- the frequency converter is controlled by a control unit 3.
- the angular position of the rotor is detected without releasing the brake by feeding a current of a frequency of about 50...200 Hz into the motor and measuring the vibration of the machine as a function of the rotor angle.
- the motion on the shaft is at a maximum when the stator current is in the direction of the d-axis, which means that the stator and rotor have maximum attractive and repelling forces (arrows) but no torque. If the current is in the direction of the q-axis, then the torque is at a maximum while the attractive and repelling forces are at a minimum.
- the motor noise varies very much depending on the position of the rotor. If the frequency is near the resonant frequency, the amplitude of the noise may vary by tens of dB.
- acoustic feedback or acceleration feedback e.g. by using a resolver.
- the adjustments can be automated by finding the minimum signal.
- the magnetization current may be small, even only a few hundred mA, and the brake of the motor can be kept closed.
- the maximum torque angle can be found but its direction can not be detected unambiguously. To achieve this, it is possible to release the brake and check the torque direction in connection with the start of motion.
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- Engineering & Computer Science (AREA)
- Automation & Control Theory (AREA)
- Civil Engineering (AREA)
- Mechanical Engineering (AREA)
- Structural Engineering (AREA)
- Computer Networks & Wireless Communication (AREA)
- Control Of Motors That Do Not Use Commutators (AREA)
- Cage And Drive Apparatuses For Elevators (AREA)
- Control Of Ac Motors In General (AREA)
- Elevator Control (AREA)
Abstract
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Applications Claiming Priority (2)
| Application Number | Priority Date | Filing Date | Title |
|---|---|---|---|
| FI20031559A FI114694B (en) | 2003-10-24 | 2003-10-24 | Method and apparatus for determining the rotor position of an elevator motor |
| PCT/FI2004/000601 WO2005041399A1 (en) | 2003-10-24 | 2004-10-11 | Method and apparatus for determining the position of the rotor of an elevator motor |
Publications (2)
| Publication Number | Publication Date |
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| EP1676360A1 true EP1676360A1 (en) | 2006-07-05 |
| EP1676360B1 EP1676360B1 (en) | 2007-06-13 |
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Family Applications (1)
| Application Number | Title | Priority Date | Filing Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| EP04767115A Expired - Lifetime EP1676360B1 (en) | 2003-10-24 | 2004-10-11 | Method and apparatus for determining the position of the rotor of an elevator motor |
Country Status (5)
| Country | Link |
|---|---|
| EP (1) | EP1676360B1 (en) |
| DE (1) | DE602004007025T2 (en) |
| ES (1) | ES2285508T3 (en) |
| FI (1) | FI114694B (en) |
| WO (1) | WO2005041399A1 (en) |
Families Citing this family (1)
| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| CN119660500B (en) * | 2024-11-25 | 2025-10-21 | 深圳市测力佳控制技术有限公司 | Method, device, apparatus, storage medium and program product for estimating elevator position |
Family Cites Families (3)
| Publication number | Priority date | Publication date | Assignee | Title |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EP0838669A3 (en) * | 1996-10-22 | 2000-12-20 | Robert Bosch Gmbh | Method and means for noise measurement of electric machines and apparatus |
| DE69908786T2 (en) * | 1999-12-15 | 2004-04-22 | Bien-Air Holding S.A. | Brushless motor with device for determining the rotor position |
| US6401875B1 (en) * | 2001-02-12 | 2002-06-11 | Otis Elevator Company | Absolute position sensing method and apparatus for synchronous elevator machines by detection stator iron saturation |
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2003
- 2003-10-24 FI FI20031559A patent/FI114694B/en active
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2004
- 2004-10-11 DE DE602004007025T patent/DE602004007025T2/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 2004-10-11 ES ES04767115T patent/ES2285508T3/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 2004-10-11 EP EP04767115A patent/EP1676360B1/en not_active Expired - Lifetime
- 2004-10-11 WO PCT/FI2004/000601 patent/WO2005041399A1/en not_active Ceased
Non-Patent Citations (1)
| Title |
|---|
| See references of WO2005041399A1 * |
Also Published As
| Publication number | Publication date |
|---|---|
| EP1676360B1 (en) | 2007-06-13 |
| WO2005041399A1 (en) | 2005-05-06 |
| ES2285508T3 (en) | 2007-11-16 |
| DE602004007025T2 (en) | 2007-10-11 |
| FI20031559A0 (en) | 2003-10-24 |
| FI114694B (en) | 2004-12-15 |
| DE602004007025D1 (en) | 2007-07-26 |
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