DE888133C - Circuit arrangement for measuring the phase position of two oscillations of the same frequency - Google Patents

Circuit arrangement for measuring the phase position of two oscillations of the same frequency

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DE888133C
DE888133C DES12300D DES0012300D DE888133C DE 888133 C DE888133 C DE 888133C DE S12300 D DES12300 D DE S12300D DE S0012300 D DES0012300 D DE S0012300D DE 888133 C DE888133 C DE 888133C
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Dieter Dipl-Ing Leypold
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Siemens AG
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    • G01MEASURING; TESTING
    • G01RMEASURING ELECTRIC VARIABLES; MEASURING MAGNETIC VARIABLES
    • G01R25/00Arrangements for measuring phase angle between a voltage and a current or between voltages or currents

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Zur MessnngMessenlg MessnngMessenlg der Phasenlage zweier Schavin,gull-Scbrwingmi- Schavin,gull-Scbrwingmigen gleicher Frequenz kann man bekamitlichbekankll¢lich bekamitlichbekankll¢lich mit Vorte!il eine Gleichrichterbrücke bzw. Modulatorschaltung verwenden. Man moduliert zu ,diesem Zweck die beiden Schwingungen, von denen eine ampiitudengrößer gemacht und als Träger wirkend, die Durchsteuerung der Gleichrichter bewirkt, miteinander, z. B. in einer (;egenttakt-Gegentiakt- (;egenttakt-Gegentiakt- oder Doppelgegentaktmodtiiatoranordnung.gegentaktmo,dulatoranordnung. gegentaktmodtiiatoranordnung.gegentaktmo,dulatoranordnung. Im Ausgang des -ModlulatorsNIodulators ModlulatorsNIodulators verhält man dann eine Gleichspan,nung.Gleidspannung Gleichspan,nung.Gleidspannung die dem Phasenwinkel zwischen den beiden Spannungen proportional ist. Diese Gleichspannung ist aber in ihrer Große auch durch diole diole AmplitudlenAmplltnden AmplitudlenAmplltnden der beiden miteinander zu vergleichenden Schwein gungen bestimmt. Erwünscht ist aber häufig, dlaßdaß dlaßdaß sich die Größe der Gleichspannungen nicht ändern soll, wenn die eine oder beide angelegten Schwingungen sich kurzzeitig in ihrem Betrag ändern, beispielsweise btibi btibi Regeleinrichtungen, die durch kurzen Schwund einer Schwingung nicht weglaufen sollen, z. B. hei der Frequenzuachstellung von Empfängern u. dgl. For measurement measurement measurement measurement of the phase position of two Schavin, gull oscillating Schavin, gull vibrations of the same frequency can be definitely known Use a rectifier bridge or modulator circuit with advantage. One modulates to this end the two vibrations, one of which is made larger in amplitude and acting as a carrier that causes the rectifier to pass through, with each other, z. B. in a (; egenttakt-Gegentiakt- (; egenttakt-Gegentiakt- or Doppelgegentaktmodtiiatoranordnung.gegentaktmo, modulator arrangement. push-pull modulator arrangement. push-pull modulator arrangement. In the output of the modulator / modulator ModulatorsNIodulators one then behaves a DC voltage, voltage. Floating voltage DC voltage, voltage. Floating voltage which is proportional to the phase angle between the two voltages. This DC voltage But its size is also due to diole diole amplitude amplitudes amplitude amplitudes of the two pigs to be compared. Is desirable but often, that the magnitude of the direct voltages should not change, when one or both of the applied vibrations change their magnitude for a short time change, for example, btibi btibi control devices, which are caused by short shrinkage a vibration should not run away, z. B. called the frequency adjustment of Recipients and the like

Bei einer,Schaltun,gsanondnungeiner Schaltungsanordnnng einer,Schaltun,gsanondnungeiner Schaltungsanordnnng zur Messung der Phasenlage zweier Schwingungen gleicher Frequenz durch Modulation dieser beiden Schwingungen miteinandereinanlder einandereinanlder unter unter Verwendung einer Gegen!takt-Gegentakt- Gegen!takt-Gegentakt- oder Doppel gegentalmodulatoranordnung Doppel gegentalmodulatoranordnung sieht die Erfindung vor, die Gleichstromklemmen des Modulators mit einer großen Kapazität zu uberbrücken,überbrücken uberbrücken,überbrücken und die Amplituden der beizen beizen Schwingungen so zu wählen, daß jede Schwingung für sich die Gleichrichter des Modulators beinahe durchsteuert. In the case of a, circuit, conduction of a circuit arrangement of a, circuit, conduction of one Circuit arrangement for measuring the phase position of two oscillations of the same frequency by modulating these two vibrations with one another using a counter-clock-push-pull-counter-clock-push-pull or double The invention provides a double counter-dental modulator arrangement propose to bypass, bypass, the DC terminals of the modulator with a large capacity Bridging, bridging and pickling the amplitudes of the pickling vibrations choose that each oscillation almost controls the rectifier of the modulator by itself.

Die Amplituden bei der Schwingungen zusammen steuern dann die Gleichrichter voll durch. Der Kondensator C wird dann verhältnismäßtigverhältmsmäßtig verhältnismäßtigverhältmsmäßtig schnell aufgeladen, da die Gleicllric;h;RerGleidirid'ter Gleicllric;h;RerGleidirid'ter Gl (vgl. Figur) beim Durdteuernl)urchsbeuern Durdteuernl)urchsbeuern niederohmig werden Bleibt eine der Schwingungen, z. B. die Schwingung Tt, kurzzeitig aus so werden die Gleich richter Gl nicht mehr voll d;urchgesteuert und in ihrem Durchlaß widerstand wesentlich höher, so daß sich der -I<ondens,ator1onden&ator -I<ondens,ator1onden&ator über diesen DurchlaßtwiderstanldDurchiaßtwiderstand DurchlaßtwiderstanldDurchiaßtwiderstand nur sehr langsam entladen kann. Ist in einer SchaltullgslanordnungSchalftingsnordnung SchaltullgslanordnungSchalftingsnordnung zu erw.arban,errtn, erw.arban,errtn, daß nur eine von den beiden angelegten Wechelspamungen T1 Wechelspamungen T1 und T2 starken Schwankungen ausgesetzt ist, so ist es im Gegensatz zu den normalen Gleichrichterbrücken zweckmäßlig, die stark !schwankenldechwankende !schwankenldechwankende Spannung in ihrem Betrag mindestens gleich oder größergröer größergröer zu machen als die konstante Wechselspannung.The rectifiers then control the amplitudes of the oscillations together full through. The capacitor C then becomes proportionately proportionate quickly charged, since the Gleicllric; h; RerGleidirid'ter Gleicllric; h; RerGleidirid'ter Gl (cf. figure) with durdteuernl) urchsbeuern Durdteuernl) urchsbeuern low resistance If one of the vibrations remains, e.g. B. the oscillation Tt, briefly from so the rectifiers Gl are no longer fully controlled and in their passage resistance is much higher, so that the -I <ondens, ator1onden & ator -I <ondens, ator1onden & ator via this forward resistance, through-through resistance, through-through resistance, through-through resistance can only discharge very slowly. Is in a SchaltullgslanordnungSchalftingsnordnung SchaltullgslanordnungSchalftingsnordnung zu erw.arban, errtn, erw.arban, errtn that only one of the two created alternating spamings T1 alternating spamings T1 and T2 is exposed to strong fluctuations, so it is in contrast to the normal rectifier bridges expedient, the strongly! fluctuating! fluctuating! fluctuating voltage in their amount at least equal to or greater greater greater than that constant alternating voltage.

PATENTANSPROCHE: I. Schaltungsanordnung zur Messung der Phasenlage zweier Schwingungen gleicher Frequenszquenz quenszquenz und Erzielung einer ihr proportionalen Gleichspannung durch - Modulation der beiden Schwingungen miteinander unter Verwendung einer Gegentakt- oder D oppelgegenttmodul a- D oppelgegenttmodul atoranordnung, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß die Gleichstromklemmeslieichstromklem men Gleichstromklemmeslieichstromklem men des Modulators durch eine große Kapazität ühe'rhrfld ühe'rhrfld und die Amplitude der beiden Schwingungen so gewählt wird, Idaßdat3 Idaßdat3 jzedejede jzedejede Schwingung für sich die Gleichrichter des Modulators beinahe durchsteuert. PATENT CLAIM: I. Circuit arrangement for measuring the phase position two oscillations of the same frequency frequency and achievement of one of her proportional DC voltage through - modulation of the two oscillations with each other using a push-pull or double counter module a double counter module Ator arrangement, characterized in that the direct current terminal is the same current terminal The modulator's DC clamps have a large capacity ühe'rhrfld ühe'rhrfld and the amplitude of the two oscillations is chosen so that Idaßdat3 Idaßdat3 every every every every oscillation for itself the rectifier of the Modulator almost fully controlled.

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2. Schlaltiungsanordnung nachSchaltngsanordnung'nach Schlaltiungsanordnung nachSchaltngsanordnung'nach Anspruch I, dadurch gelsenneeichnlet,gekenneichnet, gelsenneeichnlet,gekenneichnet, daß die am stärksten schwankende Spannung in ihrer Amplitude gleich oder größer ist als die konstantere Spannung. 2. Circuit arrangement according to circuit arrangement According to the circuit arrangement according to claim 1, characterized in that it is gelsenneeichnlet, known that the most fluctuating tension in their Amplitude is equal to or greater than the more constant voltage.
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Cited By (6)

* Cited by examiner, † Cited by third party
Publication number Priority date Publication date Assignee Title
DE1028681B (en) * 1955-06-16 1958-04-24 Cfcmug Phase meter with follow-up control
DE1069283B (en) * 1959-11-19 Andrew Alford, Boston, Mass. (V. St. A.) Circuit arrangement for the representation of a high-frequency alternating voltage in vector form
US2923884A (en) * 1956-05-24 1960-02-02 Eugene C Moss Phase measuring circuit
US3065427A (en) * 1958-08-29 1962-11-20 Texas Instruments Inc Phase sensitive detector
US3278919A (en) * 1962-06-18 1966-10-11 Cons Electrodynamics Corp Capacitive bridge transducer system
US3417338A (en) * 1967-05-15 1968-12-17 North Atlantic Industries Phase-sensitive gated switching means

Cited By (6)

* Cited by examiner, † Cited by third party
Publication number Priority date Publication date Assignee Title
DE1069283B (en) * 1959-11-19 Andrew Alford, Boston, Mass. (V. St. A.) Circuit arrangement for the representation of a high-frequency alternating voltage in vector form
DE1028681B (en) * 1955-06-16 1958-04-24 Cfcmug Phase meter with follow-up control
US2923884A (en) * 1956-05-24 1960-02-02 Eugene C Moss Phase measuring circuit
US3065427A (en) * 1958-08-29 1962-11-20 Texas Instruments Inc Phase sensitive detector
US3278919A (en) * 1962-06-18 1966-10-11 Cons Electrodynamics Corp Capacitive bridge transducer system
US3417338A (en) * 1967-05-15 1968-12-17 North Atlantic Industries Phase-sensitive gated switching means

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