DE600495C - Device for the transmission of measured values of electrical measuring devices over large distances by means of pulses, the frequency of which corresponds to the measured quantity - Google Patents

Device for the transmission of measured values of electrical measuring devices over large distances by means of pulses, the frequency of which corresponds to the measured quantity

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DE600495C
DE600495C DES88210D DES0088210D DE600495C DE 600495 C DE600495 C DE 600495C DE S88210 D DES88210 D DE S88210D DE S0088210 D DES0088210 D DE S0088210D DE 600495 C DE600495 C DE 600495C
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Dr-Ing Manfred Schleicher
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Siemens and Halske AG
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    • G08SIGNALLING
    • G08CTRANSMISSION SYSTEMS FOR MEASURED VALUES, CONTROL OR SIMILAR SIGNALS
    • G08C19/00Electric signal transmission systems
    • G08C19/16Electric signal transmission systems in which transmission is by pulses
    • G08C19/26Electric signal transmission systems in which transmission is by pulses by varying pulse repetition frequency

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Vorrichtung zur Übertragung von Meßwerten elektrischer Meßgeräte auf größere Entfernungen mittels .Impulse, deren Häufigkeit der Meßgröße entspricht Es ist bekannt, zur Übertragung von Meßwerten elektrischer Meßgeräte über größere Entfernungen, beispielsweise von einer entfernt liegenden Nebenstelle nach einer Hauptstelle, Impulse zu senden, deren Häufigkeit in der Zeiteinheit einem zu übertragenden Meßwert entspricht. Es ist schon vorgeschlagen worden, für die Übertragung Gleichstromimpulse zu benutzen. Die Verwendung von Gleichstromimpulsen wird aber schwierig oder unmöglich, wenn die für die Übertragung benutzten Leitungen Transformatoren enthalten. Infolgedessen sind Betriebsfernsprechleitungen, die zur Beseitigung der Hochspannungsgefahr mindestens zwei Transformatoren enthalten müssen, für diese Art der Fernmessung kaum brauchbar. Man hat auch schon vorgeschlagen, Hochfrequenzimpulse zu senden. An der Sendestation benötigt man dann aber einen besonderen Generator zur Erzeugung der Hochfrequenz und an der Empfangsstelle Schwingungskreise, um die Hochfrequenzimpulse von der Betriebsfrequenz zu trennen. Es ist auch schon bekannt, statt Gleichstrom Wechselstrom zu benutzen.Device for transmitting measured values to electrical measuring devices larger distances by means of pulses, the frequency of which corresponds to the measured variable It is known for the transmission of measured values of electrical measuring devices over larger ones Distances, for example from a remote extension to a Main unit to send impulses, the frequency of which in the unit of time is to be transmitted Measured value corresponds. It has already been proposed for the transmission of direct current pulses to use. However, the use of direct current pulses becomes difficult or impossible, if the lines used for the transmission contain transformers. Consequently are company telephone lines that eliminate the risk of high voltage at least must contain two transformers, hardly usable for this type of remote measurement. It has also been proposed to send high-frequency pulses. At the transmitting station But then you need a special generator to generate the high frequency and at the receiving point oscillating circuits to absorb the high-frequency pulses from the Separate operating frequency. It is already known that instead of direct current alternating current to use.

Gemäß der vorliegenden Erfindung wird der zur Übertragung der Impulse dienende Wechselstrom, vorzugsweise Wechselstrom doppelter Netzfrequenz, über einen ruhenden, ohne Hilfsstromquelle arbeitenden Frequenzvervielfacher aus dem die elektrischen Meßgerä.te enthaltenden Energieverteilungsnetz entnommen. Man hat zwar vorgeschlagen, Wechselströme, die zur Übertragung von Meßgrößen dienen, mit Hilfe rotierender Umformer aus einem Netz zu entnehmen. Bei den bekannten Anordnungen werden jedoch. nicht Wechselstromimpulse erzeugt, sondern die Frequenz der Wechselströme wird in Abhängigkeit von der Meßgröße beeinflußt. Die Frequenzen liegen zwischen 75 und Zoo Perioden je Sekunde. Gegenüber den bekannten Anordnungen wird durch die vorliegende Erfindung eine erhöhte Betriebssicherheit erzielt, da ruhende Frequenzvervielfacher so gut wie keine Wartung benötigen. Auch kann man die Stromimpulse über die in die Fernsprechleitung eingebauten Transformatoren bekanntlich ohne besondere Schwierigkeiten hinwegleiten und kann daher Fernsprechleitungen für die Zwecke der Fernmessung elektrischer Größen benutzen.According to the present invention is used to transmit the pulses Serving alternating current, preferably alternating current twice the mains frequency, via a dormant, without an auxiliary power source working frequency multiplier from which the electrical Taken from the power distribution network containing measuring devices. It has been suggested Alternating currents, which are used for the transmission of measured variables, with the help of rotating converters to be taken from a network. In the known arrangements, however. not Alternating current pulses are generated, but the frequency of the alternating currents is dependent influenced by the measurand. The frequencies are between 75 and zoo periods per second. Compared to the known arrangements, the present invention an increased operational reliability is achieved because the frequency multipliers are at rest so well like do not need maintenance. You can also see the current impulses on the telephone line built-in transformers are known to pass away without any particular difficulties and can therefore use telephone lines for the purposes of telemetry of electrical quantities use.

Zur Anzeige der Zahl der Impulse in der Zeiteinheit verwendet man zweckmäßig in an sich bekannter Weise ein träges Meßgerät, über das ein Kondensator bei jedem Impuls mit Hilfe eines geeigneten: Relais einmal umgeladen wird.To display the number of pulses in the unit of time, use expediently in a manner known per se an inert measuring device via which a capacitor is reloaded once for each pulse with the help of a suitable relay.

Da in der Netzspannung die zweite Harmonische nicht mitenthalten ist, so ist besonders bei der Verwendung der doppelten Netzfrequenz keine Störung durch die Netzoberwellen zu befürchten. Selbst die dritte und höhere Harmonische sind in modernen Anlagen so gering, daß auch bei der Verwendung von Frequenzen, die in 'der Größenordnung dieser Oberwellen liegen, keine Störung zu befürchten ist.Since the mains voltage does not include the second harmonic, so is especially true when using the double Mains frequency none Fear of interference from the mains harmonics. Even the third and higher harmonic are so low in modern systems that even when using frequencies, which are in the order of magnitude of these harmonics, there is no need to worry about interference is.

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PATENTANSPRUCH: - -Vorrichtung zur Übertragung von Meßwerten elektrischer Meßgeräte auf größere Entfernungen mittels Impulse, deren Häufigkeit der Meßgröße entspricht und bei der zur Übertragung der Impulse Wechselstrom benutzt wird, dadurch gekennzeichnet, daß dieser Wechselstrom über einen ruhenden, ohne Hilfsstromquelle arbeitenden Frequenzvervielfacher, vorzugsweise Frequenzverdoppler, aus dem die elektrischen Meßgeräte enthaltenden Energieverteilungsnetz entnommen wird.PATENT CLAIM: Device for the transmission of measured values of electrical measuring devices over long distances by means of pulses, the frequency of which corresponds to the measured variable and in which alternating current is used to transmit the pulses, characterized in that this alternating current is via a stationary frequency multiplier, preferably a frequency doubler, which works without an auxiliary power source , is taken from the power distribution network containing the electrical measuring devices.
DES88210D 1928-11-01 1928-11-01 Device for the transmission of measured values of electrical measuring devices over large distances by means of pulses, the frequency of which corresponds to the measured quantity Expired DE600495C (en)

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DE943576C (en) * 1943-10-23 1956-05-24 Aeg Transmitter for telemetry equipment

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DE943576C (en) * 1943-10-23 1956-05-24 Aeg Transmitter for telemetry equipment

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