JPH03210604A - Back-up method for trouble analysis - Google Patents

Back-up method for trouble analysis

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Publication number
JPH03210604A
JPH03210604A JP2006742A JP674290A JPH03210604A JP H03210604 A JPH03210604 A JP H03210604A JP 2006742 A JP2006742 A JP 2006742A JP 674290 A JP674290 A JP 674290A JP H03210604 A JPH03210604 A JP H03210604A
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Koji Nakai
康二 仲井
Tetsuyuki Iwasaki
岩崎 哲之
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Fuji Electric Co Ltd
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    • BPERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
    • B21MECHANICAL METAL-WORKING WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY REMOVING MATERIAL; PUNCHING METAL
    • B21BROLLING OF METAL
    • B21B33/00Safety devices not otherwise provided for; Breaker blocks; Devices for freeing jammed rolls for handling cobbles; Overload safety devices

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  • Testing And Monitoring For Control Systems (AREA)

Abstract

PURPOSE:To quickly analyze the factor of a trouble by providing a monitoring device which inputs the control data from each controller and detects the abnormality and then calling out the control data on other working machines in relation to a specific machine when the monitoring device detects a trouble of the specific machine. CONSTITUTION:A common monitoring device 10 is provided to monitor the states of a 1st controller 13, a 2nd controller 23, a 3rd controller 33, and a 4th controller 43 respectively. When the device 10 detects the abnormality of a specific controller, another controller having the operating relation to the specific controller is selected. Then the trigger signals are applied to both the selected controller and the specific one. Based on these trigger signals, the controllers 13 - 43 output their control data before and after the transmission of the trigger signals. In such a case, it is possible to immediately obtain the control data set before and after the stoppage of troubles of a fault displaying machine and its related machine since another machine related to the fault displaying machine is previously selected. Thus the factor of the trouble is quickly analyzed and therefore the discontinued time of a machine system can be minimized.

Description

【発明の詳細な説明】 〔産業上の利用分野〕 この発明は、複数の機械が相互に関連しながら運転する
構成の機械システムが故障した場合に所要の制御データ
を素早く集めることで、故障の解析を支援する方法に間
する。
[Detailed Description of the Invention] [Industrial Application Field] The present invention is designed to quickly collect necessary control data when a mechanical system in which a plurality of machines are operated in conjunction with each other breaks down, thereby preventing the failure from occurring. Find out how to support analysis.

〔従来の技術〕[Conventional technology]

第2図は複数機械の集合でなる機械システム故障時の制
御データを収集する従来例を示した構成図である。
FIG. 2 is a configuration diagram showing a conventional example of collecting control data when a mechanical system consisting of a plurality of machines fails.

この第2図は、第10−ル11と第20−ル21と第3
0−ル31 (第40−ル以降は図示を省略)で鋼板2
を矢印方向へ順次圧延する場合をあられしており、これ
ら各ロールはと鋼板2を介して相互に関連しつつ運転す
る機械システムとしての圧延装置である。ここで第10
−ル11とこれを駆動する第1モータ12と第1@御装
置13、第20−ル21とこれを駆動する第2モータ2
2と第2制御装置23、第30−ル31とこれを駆動す
る第3モータ32と第3制御装置33等でこの圧延装置
を構成している。
This figure 2 shows the 10th rule 11, the 20th rule 21, and the 3rd rule.
Steel plate 2 at 0-ru 31 (illustration omitted from 40-ru)
The rolls are sequentially rolled in the direction of the arrow, and each of these rolls is a rolling device as a mechanical system that operates in relation to each other via the steel plate 2. Here the 10th
11, the first motor 12 that drives it, the first control device 13, the 20th rule 21, and the second motor 2 that drives it.
This rolling apparatus is composed of a second control device 23, a third motor 32 for driving the third motor 32, a third control device 33, and the like.

この圧延装置のような大規模の機械システムは、故障停
止することによる被害が大であることから、極力故障は
回避しなければならないが、もしも故障が発生ずれば、
素早く故障原因を発見して、圧延装置の停止時間を僅か
なものにしなければならない。
For large-scale mechanical systems such as rolling mills, failures and stoppages can cause great damage, so failures must be avoided as much as possible, but if a failure occurs,
It is necessary to quickly discover the cause of the failure and minimize the downtime of the rolling mill.

そのために、この圧延装置には次のような故障解析のた
めの設備を設けている。すなわち各制御装置I1.2+
、 31.41は、それぞれに属するロールと、このロ
ールを駆動するモータの制御データを常時サンプリング
している。しかしながら、このようにし°ζ得た制御デ
ータを常時記録するのは、故障が希にしか発生しないこ
とから不経済なために、必要に応しζごの制御データを
読出せるようにしておくのが一般的である。
To this end, this rolling mill is equipped with the following failure analysis equipment. That is, each control device I1.2+
, 31.41 constantly samples the control data of the rolls belonging to each and the motors that drive these rolls. However, it is uneconomical to constantly record the control data obtained in this way because failures occur only rarely, so it is necessary to make it possible to read out the control data for each ζ as needed. is common.

すなわち第2図に示すように、各制御装置には故障検出
リレー14.24.34.44を別個に設けておき、た
とえば第20−ル21あるいは第2モータ22に異常を
生じれば第2制御装置23からの信号で故障検出リレー
24が作動し、トリガリレー4を介してレコーダ3を起
動させることにより、第2制御装置23に蓄えていた故
障発生前後の制御データをこのレコーダ3に記録するこ
とで、当該第20−ル21あるいは第2モータ22、さ
らには第2制御装置23のどの部分にどのような異常が
発生したかを知ることができる。よってこの記録を詳細
にチエツクすることで故障原因の解析をすみやかに行う
ことができる。
That is, as shown in FIG. 2, each control device is provided with a separate failure detection relay 14, 24, 34, 44, and if an abnormality occurs in, for example, the 20-rule 21 or the second motor 22, the second The failure detection relay 24 is activated by a signal from the control device 23, and the recorder 3 is activated via the trigger relay 4, so that the control data before and after the occurrence of the failure stored in the second control device 23 is recorded in this recorder 3. By doing so, it is possible to know in which part of the 20th rule 21, the second motor 22, or even the second control device 23 an abnormality has occurred. Therefore, by checking this record in detail, the cause of the failure can be quickly analyzed.

〔発明が解決しよう七する!IN) しかしながら、圧延装置のように複数の機械が相互に関
連を保ちつつ運転している機械システムでは、ある特定
の機械が正常に運転しているにも拘らず、他の機械の異
常がこの特定機械の異常としてあられれる場合がある。
[The invention will solve the problem!] However, in a mechanical system such as a rolling mill where multiple machines operate in an interconnected manner, even if a particular machine is operating normally, an abnormality in another machine may cause this problem. It may occur as a malfunction of a specific machine.

たとえば第2モータ22が過速度になった場合でも、こ
の過速度が第30−ル31による鋼板2の引張りすぎが
原因の場合もあるし、第10−ル11による鋼板2の押
込みすぎが原因の場合もあるが第2制御装置23の制御
データからだけでは故障原因が判明しない、そこで第1
 III御装置13または第3制御装置33の制御デー
タを調べて、やっと故障原因が判明することになり、当
該圧延装置の停止原因を突きとめて運転を再開するまで
に長時間を要することとなる。
For example, even if the second motor 22 becomes overspeed, this overspeed may be caused by the steel plate 2 being pulled too much by the 30th rule 31, or may be caused by the steel plate 2 being pushed too much by the 10th rule 11. In some cases, the cause of the failure cannot be determined from the control data of the second control device 23, so the first
The cause of the failure can only be determined by examining the control data of the III control device 13 or the third control device 33, and it takes a long time to determine the cause of the stoppage of the rolling mill and restart operation. .

そこでこの発明の目的は、複数の機械が相互に関連を保
ちつつ運転している機械システムに故障発生した場合の
原因を素早(追求できるように、所要の制御データを取
出せるようにすることにある。
Therefore, the purpose of this invention is to make it possible to extract necessary control data so that when a failure occurs in a mechanical system in which multiple machines are operated while maintaining relationships with each other, the cause can be quickly determined. be.

〔課題を解決するための手段〕[Means to solve the problem]

上記の目的を達成するために、この発明の故障解析支援
方法は、個別に制御装置を付属している機械の複数台が
相互に関連して運転する機械システムにおける前記各制
御装置は、各個にその制御データのサンプリングを行い
、前記機械システムの故障時にはこの制御データを呼出
すことで故障解析を支援する方法において、前記各制御
装置の状態を監視するべくこれらに共通の監視装置を設
け、この監視装置が特定制御装置に異常を生じたことを
検出すれば、この特定制御装置と運転上で関連のある他
の制御装置を選定し、これら関連制御装置と特定制御装
置とにトリガ信号を与え、このトリガ信号に従って各制
御装置はトリガ信号発令前後の制御データを出力するも
のとする。
In order to achieve the above object, the failure analysis support method of the present invention provides a method for supporting failure analysis in which each of the control devices in a mechanical system in which a plurality of machines, each of which is individually attached to a control device, is operated in relation to each other. In the method of supporting failure analysis by sampling the control data and calling this control data in the event of a failure of the mechanical system, a common monitoring device is provided for monitoring the status of each of the control devices; When the device detects that an abnormality has occurred in a specific control device, it selects other control devices that are operationally related to this specific control device, and gives a trigger signal to these related control devices and the specific control device; In accordance with this trigger signal, each control device outputs control data before and after the trigger signal is issued.

〔作用〕[Effect]

複数の機械が相互に関連を保ちながら運転している機械
システムでは、ある特定の機械に故障を生じても、故障
原因はこの特定機械にはなく、他の機械の異常がこの特
定機械に故障としてあられれることがよくある。そこで
本発明においては、各制御装置からの制御データを入力
して異常を検出する監視装置を設け、この監視装置が特
定機械の故障を検出すれば、この特定機械と関連して運
転している他の機械の制御データも呼出すことにより、
当該機械システムの故障原因を素早(追求しようとする
ものである。
In a mechanical system where multiple machines operate in a mutually related manner, even if a particular machine malfunctions, the cause of the malfunction is not in this particular machine, and the malfunction in another machine causes the malfunction in this particular machine. It often appears as a. Therefore, in the present invention, a monitoring device is provided that inputs control data from each control device and detects an abnormality, and if this monitoring device detects a failure of a specific machine, the machine is operated in conjunction with this specific machine. By also calling control data of other machines,
It attempts to quickly find the cause of failure in the mechanical system.

〔実施例〕〔Example〕

第1図は本発明の実施例をあられした構成図である。 FIG. 1 is a block diagram showing an embodiment of the present invention.

この第1図も、前述した従来例と同様に、機械システム
としての圧延装置をあられしており、第1モータ12と
第1@御装置13とで駆動される第1ローラ11、第2
モータ22と第2制御装置23とで駆動される第20−
ラ2I、第3モータ32と第3制御装置33とで駆動さ
れる第30−ラ31とがあって、(第4以降は、第4制
御装置43のみを記載し、それ以外の図示は省略してい
る)綱板2をこれら各ローラで順次圧延しながら矢印方
向へ移動させている。なお、各制御装置は、それぞれに
属するローラならびにモータの制御データを常時サンプ
リングしていることも、第2図の従来例の場合と同じで
ある。
Like the conventional example described above, this FIG.
A 20th motor driven by the motor 22 and the second control device 23
There is a 30th RA 2I, a 30th RA 31 driven by a third motor 32, and a third control device 33. The steel plate 2 is moved in the direction of the arrow while being sequentially rolled by each of these rollers. It should be noted that, as in the conventional example shown in FIG. 2, each control device constantly samples control data for the rollers and motors that belong to it.

本発明においては、これら各制御装置に共通の監視装置
10を設け、伝送ライン9を介して各制御装置からの制
御データをこの監視装置10に入力して、この監視装置
lOが異常の有無を常時チエyりしている。 ここで、
たとえば第2モータ22の速度が所定埴以上の過速度に
なったことを検出すると、監視装置lOはトリガ信号を
発して異常を生じている第2モータ22の制御データを
第2制御装置23から取込むべく指令を発すると同時に
、あらかじめこの第2モータ22と運転上で関連ありと
定めている前段の第1モータ12の制御データと、後段
の第3モータ32の制御データとがトリガ指令により監
視装置lOに取込まれる。
In the present invention, a common monitoring device 10 is provided for each of these control devices, and control data from each control device is input to this monitoring device 10 via a transmission line 9, so that this monitoring device 1O can check the presence or absence of an abnormality. I'm always checking. here,
For example, when it is detected that the speed of the second motor 22 has exceeded a predetermined speed, the monitoring device 1O issues a trigger signal and transmits the control data of the second motor 22 in which the abnormality is occurring from the second control device 23. At the same time as issuing a command to import, the control data of the first motor 12 at the front stage and the control data of the third motor 32 at the rear stage, which are determined in advance to be related to the second motor 22 in terms of operation, are transmitted by the trigger command. The data is taken into the monitoring device IO.

なお監視装置10が取込む制御データは、異常発生時点
よりも所定時間をさかのぼった時点から、異常発生時点
から一定時間を経過した時点までの期間中のデータとす
ることは勿論である。
Note that the control data taken in by the monitoring device 10 is, of course, data for a period from a predetermined time period before the abnormality occurrence point to a certain time period after the abnormality occurrence time point.

トリガ指令にもとづいて監視装置lOに取込まれた上記
期間中の第1制御装置13と第2制御装置23ならびに
第3制御装置33の制御データ、を図示していないレコ
ーダに記録するなどして調査することにより、第2モー
タ22の過速度がこの第2モータ22の異常が原因で生
じたのか、あるいは第3モータ32で鋼板2を引張した
のが原因で生じたのか、あるいは第1モータ12が鋼板
2を押込んだのが原因で生じたのかが、短時間で解明で
きる。
The control data of the first control device 13, second control device 23, and third control device 33 during the above-mentioned period, which was taken into the monitoring device IO based on the trigger command, is recorded on a recorder (not shown), etc. The investigation revealed whether the overspeed of the second motor 22 was caused by an abnormality in the second motor 22, whether it was caused by the third motor 32 pulling the steel plate 2, or whether the overspeed of the second motor 22 was caused by the third motor 32 pulling the steel plate 2, or whether the overspeed of the second motor 22 It can be determined in a short time whether the problem was caused by the steel plate 2 being pushed into the steel plate 12.

なお監視装置lOは圧延装置を構成している各ローラや
モータあるいは制御装置のいずれかに異常を生じたとき
に、どれにトリガをかけるかをあらかじめ選定して登録
しておけばよい。
Note that the monitoring device IO may select and register in advance which one to trigger when an abnormality occurs in any of the rollers, motors, or control devices that make up the rolling device.

〔発明の効果〕〔Effect of the invention〕

複数の機械が相互に関連しながら運転をする構成の機械
システムの場合は、どれかの機械に異常を生じても、こ
の異常が原因になって他の機械が故障停止することがあ
り、この場合は故障停止した機械を調べてもその原因が
判明せず、従って運転再開までに長時間を要する不都合
があったが、本発明によれば、故障表示をした機械に関
連する他の機械をあらかじめ選定しであるので、故障表
示機械とこれに関連する機械の故障停止前後の制御デー
タが直ちにに入手できるので、故障原因の追求を素早く
行えることになり、当該機械システムの停止時間を最短
に抑制できる効果が得られる。
In the case of a mechanical system in which multiple machines operate in conjunction with each other, even if an abnormality occurs in one of the machines, this abnormality may cause other machines to malfunction and stop. In such cases, even if a machine that has stopped due to a failure is investigated, the cause of the failure cannot be determined, resulting in the inconvenience that it takes a long time to restart operation.However, according to the present invention, other machines related to the machine that has displayed a failure indication can be checked. Since the selection is made in advance, the control data of the failure display machine and related machinery before and after failure and stoppage can be immediately obtained, allowing the cause of the failure to be quickly investigated, minimizing the downtime of the relevant mechanical system. A suppressive effect can be obtained.

【図面の簡単な説明】[Brief explanation of drawings]

第1図は本発明の実施例をあられした構成図、第2図は
複数機械の集合でなる機械システム故障時の制御データ
を収集する従来例を示した構成図である。 2・・・鋼板、3・・・レコーダ、4・・・トリガリレ
ー9・・・伝送ライン、lO・・・監視装置、11・・
・第10−ル、12・・・第1モータ、13・・・第1
制御装置、14.24.34゜44、・・・故障検出リ
レー、21・・・第20−ル、22・・・第2モータ、 23・・・第2制御装置、 31・・・第30−ル、 32・・・第3モータ、 33・・・第3制御装置、 43・・・第4制 11第10−ル
FIG. 1 is a block diagram showing an embodiment of the present invention, and FIG. 2 is a block diagram showing a conventional example of collecting control data when a mechanical system consisting of a plurality of machines fails. 2... Steel plate, 3... Recorder, 4... Trigger relay 9... Transmission line, IO... Monitoring device, 11...
・10th rule, 12...first motor, 13...first
Control device, 14.24.34゜44,... Failure detection relay, 21... 20th rule, 22... Second motor, 23... Second control device, 31... 30th 32...Third motor, 33...Third control device, 43...4th system 11th 10th rule

Claims (1)

【特許請求の範囲】[Claims] 1)個別に制御装置を付属している機械の複数台が相互
に関連して運転する機械システムにおける前記各制御装
置は、各個にその制御データのサンプリングを行い、前
記機械システムの故障時にはこの制御データを呼出すこ
とで故障解析を支援する方法において、前記各制御装置
の状態を監視するべくこれらに共通の監視装置を設け、
この監視装置が特定制御装置に異常を生じたことを検出
すれば、この特定制御装置と運転上で関連のある他の制
御装置を選定し、これら関連制御装置と特定制御装置と
にトリガ信号を与え、このトリガ信号に従って各制御装
置はトリガ信号発令前後の制御データを出力することを
特徴とする故障解析支援方法。
1) In a mechanical system in which a plurality of machines, each of which is individually attached to a control device, are operated in conjunction with each other, each of the control devices individually samples its control data, and when the mechanical system fails, this control In the method for supporting failure analysis by calling data, a common monitoring device is provided for monitoring the status of each of the control devices,
When this monitoring device detects that an abnormality has occurred in a specific control device, it selects other control devices that are operationally related to this specific control device and sends trigger signals to these related control devices and the specific control device. and each control device outputs control data before and after issuing the trigger signal according to the trigger signal.
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