DE102005004174A1 - Motor vehicle battery diagnosis method, involves characterizing motor vehicle battery as defective, if amplitude of battery power e.g. charging power or discharging power, falls below given power threshold value - Google Patents
Motor vehicle battery diagnosis method, involves characterizing motor vehicle battery as defective, if amplitude of battery power e.g. charging power or discharging power, falls below given power threshold value Download PDFInfo
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Die Erfindung betrifft ein Verfahren zur Diagnose einer Kraftfahrzeugbatterie gemäß dem Oberbegriff des Patentanspruchs 1.The The invention relates to a method for diagnosing a motor vehicle battery according to the generic term of claim 1
Kraftfahrzeuge besitzen einen Generator, der den für den Fahrbetrieb des Kraftfahrzeugs benötigten Strom erzeugt, wobei die elektrische Energie zur Pufferung von Überlastphasen in der Kraftfahrzeugbatterie gespeichert wird. Bei einem Defekt der Kraftfahrzeugbatterie, bsp. in den Batteriezuleitungen, den Batteriezellenverbindungen oder den Batteriepolen, können bestimmte Systeme des Kraftfahrzeugs oftmals nur in einem eingeschränkten Funktionsumfang betrieben werden oder sogar vollständig ausfallen. Problematisch hierbei ist, dass die hierdurch bedingte Störung weder vom Generator noch von einem anderen Steuergerät des Kraftfahrzeugs erkannt wird und deshalb auch dem Bediener des Kraftfahrzeugs nicht mitgeteilt wird (d.h. die Warnlampe für die Ladekontrolle leuchtet nicht auf). Die Störung wird daher üblicherweise erst dann bemerkt, wenn das Kraftfahrzeug nicht mehr startfähig ist.motor vehicles own a generator, which is responsible for the driving of the motor vehicle required Electricity generated, with the electrical energy used to buffer overcurrent phases is stored in the motor vehicle battery. In case of a defect the motor vehicle battery, bsp. in the battery leads, the Battery cell connections or the battery poles, certain Systems of the motor vehicle often only in a limited range of functions be operated or even fail completely. Problematic In this case, the resulting disturbance is neither from the generator nor from another controller of the motor vehicle is detected and therefore also the operator of the motor vehicle is not communicated (i.e., the charge control warning light is on not open). The disorder therefore becomes common only then noticed when the vehicle is no longer bootable.
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Zur Realisierung der sicheren Erkennung einer defekten Batterie werden bei den bekannten Verfahren somit mindestens zwei Sensoren benötigt, was jedoch mit entsprechenden Kosten und erhöhtem Messaufwand verbunden ist.to Realization of the safe detection of a defective battery in the known method thus requires at least two sensors, which However, associated with corresponding costs and increased measurement costs is.
Der Erfindung liegt die Aufgabe zugrunde, ein Verfahren zur Diagnose einer Kraftfahrzeugbatterie anzugeben, mit dem eine defekte Kraftfahrzeugbatterie auf einfache Weise, kostengünstig und zuverlässig erkannt werden kann.Of the Invention is based on the object, a method for diagnosis to specify a motor vehicle battery, with a defective motor vehicle battery in a simple way, cost-effective and reliable can be recognized.
Diese Aufgabe wird erfindungsgemäß durch das Kennzeichen des Patentanspruchs 1 gelöst.These The object is achieved by the Characteristics of claim 1 solved.
Vorteilhafte Ausgestaltungen der Erfindung sind Bestandteil der weiteren Patentansprüche.advantageous Embodiments of the invention are part of the further claims.
Erfindungsgemäß wird beim vorgestellten Verfahren unter Verwendung eines Stromsensors als einzigem Sensor und daher mit geringem Messaufwand und kostengünstig der Batteriestrom als der in die Kraftfahrzeugbatterie fließende Ladestrom oder der aus der Kraftfahrzeugbatterie fließende Entladestrom gemessen; falls die Amplitude des Batteriestroms als Ladestrom oder Entladestrom einen Stromschwellwert unterschreitet (ein Stromfluss, der unterhalb diesem Stromschwellwert liegt, kann auf eine defekte Batterie hindeuten), wird (um eine Fehldiagnose auszuschließen) die Generatorspannung reduziert oder erhöht und durch erneute Messung des Batteriestroms als in die Kraftfahrzeugbatterie fließenden Ladestroms oder aus der Kraftfahrzeugbatterie fließenden Entladestroms überprüft, ob die Amplitude des Batteriestroms als Ladestrom oder Entladestrom hierdurch ansteigt, d.h. wieder den Stromschwellwert überschreitet. Bleibt die Amplitude des Batteriestroms als Ladestrom oder Entladestrom jedoch hierdurch weiterhin unterhalb des Stromschwellwerts, wird die Kraftfahrzeugbatterie als defekt charakterisiert.According to the invention presented method using a current sensor as the only Sensor and therefore with little effort and cost of the Battery current as the charging current flowing in the motor vehicle battery or the discharge current flowing from the motor vehicle battery is measured; if the amplitude of the battery current as charging current or discharge current falls below a current threshold (a current flow below this current threshold is, may indicate a defective battery), is (to exclude a misdiagnosis) reduces the generator voltage or increased and by re-measuring the battery current as charging current flowing into the vehicle battery or discharging current flowing from the motor vehicle battery checks whether the amplitude of the battery current as charge current or discharge current thereby increases, i.e. again exceeds the current threshold. Remains the amplitude of the Battery currents as charging current or discharge current, however, thereby continues below the current threshold, the motor vehicle battery characterized as defective.
Der Stromschwellwert wird hierbei so gewählt, dass äußere Einflüsse wie bsp. Motordrehzahl oder elektrische Verbraucher des Kraftfahrzeugs keinen Einfluss auf die Diagnose haben. Gleichzeitig wird der Stromschwellwert so gewählt, dass Fehldiagnosen bsp. aufgrund von Messungenauigkeiten ausgeschlossen werden können. Zur Erhöhung der Robustheit des Diagnoseverfahrens können mehrere aufeinanderfolgende Messwerte des Batteriestroms zur Diagnose der Kraftfahrzeugbatterie herangezogen werden, wobei die Messwerte des Batteriestroms jeweils den Stromschwellwert unterschreiten müssen, um die Kraftfahrzeugbatterie als defekt zu charakterisieren.Of the Current threshold is chosen so that external influences such as. Engine speed or electrical consumers of the motor vehicle do not affect the Have a diagnosis. At the same time, the current threshold is selected so that Misdiagnosis bsp. excluded due to measurement inaccuracies can be. To increase The robustness of the diagnostic procedure can be several consecutive Measured values of the battery current for the diagnosis of the motor vehicle battery are used, the measured values of the battery current respectively must fall below the current threshold, the motor vehicle battery to characterize as defective.
Vorzugsweise beträgt der Stromschwellwert weniger als 10% des minimalen Ladestroms oder Entladestroms im Normalbetrieb von bsp. 2 A bis 7 A. Der Stromschwellwert kann auch als Absolutwert vorgegeben werden, wobei der Stromschwellwert insbesondere im mA-Bereich liegt, bsp. wird ein Stromschwellwert von 100 mA vorgegeben.Preferably is the current threshold is less than 10% of the minimum charging current or discharge current in normal operation of bsp. 2 A to 7 A. The current threshold can also be given as an absolute value, wherein the current threshold especially in the mA range, bsp. becomes a current threshold specified by 100 mA.
Der Ladestromfluss oder der Entladestromfluss aus der Batterie kann mittels eines Hallsensors oder Messshunts oder Amperemeters als Stromsensor gemessen oder mittels weiterer Messverfahren erfasst werden.Of the Charging current flow or the discharge current flow from the battery can by means of a Hall sensor or measuring shunt or ammeter as Current sensor measured or detected by other measurement methods become.
Im Zusammenhang mit der Zeichnung soll ein Ausführungsbeispiel der Erfindung erläutert werden.in the In connection with the drawing, an embodiment of the invention explained become.
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Zur Durchführung des Verfahrens kann ein Steuergerät des Kraftfahrzeugs verwendet werden. Dabei kann hierzu ein bereits im Kraftfahrzeug vorhandenes Steuergerät vorgesehen werden, bsp. das Steuergerät für das Batterieenergiemanagement oder das für die Überwachung des Bordnetzes des Kraftfahrzeugs vorgesehene Steuergerät oder aber ein spezielles, für das beschriebene Verfahren entwickelte Steuergerät.to execution of the method can be used a control unit of the motor vehicle become. For this purpose, an already existing in the motor vehicle control unit be provided, eg. the control unit for battery energy management or that for The supervision the on-board network of the motor vehicle provided control unit or a special, for the described method developed control unit.
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