DE102004049153A1 - Main conductor for a device like a battery sensor for detecting electric capacities routes a load current between a source of electric energy and electric consumers - Google Patents

Main conductor for a device like a battery sensor for detecting electric capacities routes a load current between a source of electric energy and electric consumers Download PDF

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DE102004049153A1
DE102004049153A1 DE102004049153A DE102004049153A DE102004049153A1 DE 102004049153 A1 DE102004049153 A1 DE 102004049153A1 DE 102004049153 A DE102004049153 A DE 102004049153A DE 102004049153 A DE102004049153 A DE 102004049153A DE 102004049153 A1 DE102004049153 A1 DE 102004049153A1
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Abstract

Assembled as a single cuboid piece from one and the same material, a main conductor (MC) (10) routes a load current and operates with its measuring section and adjacent retaining areas on both sides of the measuring section. The MC links as a single piece to a terminal (16) of the same material as the MC. An independent claim is also included for a device for detecting electric capacities, i.e. a battery sensor.

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Die Erfindung betrifft einen Leiterabschnitt für ein Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen, insbesondere für einen Batteriesensor nach der Gattung des unabhängigen Patentanspruchs. Bekannte Leiterabschnitte für solche Geräte bestehen üblicherweise aus einem aus mehreren Einzelteilen zusammengefügten Teil. So ist z.B. ein Messabschnitt aus Manganin oder Konstantan, bspw. in der Form eines flachen Quaders, an zwei einander gegenüberliegenden Stoßflächen mit je einem Haltebereich verbunden. Dieser Haltebereich besteht üblicherweise aus Kupfer und ist mittels eines stoffschlüssigen Verbindungsverfahrens, üblicherweise Schweißen, mit dem Messabschnitt verbunden.The The invention relates to a conductor section for a device for detecting electrical Sizes, in particular for one Battery sensor according to the preamble of the independent claim. Known conductor sections for such equipment usually exist from a part assembled from several parts. For example, e.g. one Measuring section of manganin or Konstantan, for example. In the form of a flat Cuboid, on two opposite sides Abutting surfaces with each connected to a holding area. This holding area is usually made of copper and is by means of a material connection method, usually Welding, connected to the measuring section.

Beispielhaft kann an dieser Stelle die deutsche Offenlegungsschrift DE 199 61 311 A1 angegeben werden. Nachteilig ist bei derartigen Ausführungen, dass im Hauptleiter aufgrund der Materialübergänge zwischen Messabschnitt und Haltebereichen Thermospannungen und infolgedessen Messfehler erzeugt werden können.By way of example, at this point the German patent application DE 199 61 311 A1 be specified. A disadvantage of such embodiments that due to the material transitions between measuring section and holding areas thermoelectric voltages and consequently measurement errors can be generated in the main conductor.

Des weiteren ist nachteilig, dass die Verbindungen zwischen dem Messabschnitt und den Haltebereichen sehr hohe Anforderungen an den Fügeprozess stellen.Of Another disadvantage is that the connections between the measuring section and the holding areas very high demands on the joining process put.

Vorteile der ErfindungAdvantages of invention

Der erfindungsgemäße Leiterabschnitt für ein Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen mit den Merkmalen des Hauptanspruchs hat den Vorteil, dass die erwähnten Nachteile vermieden werden. Durch die einstückige Herstellung des Hauptleiters und somit seines Messabschnitts und der Haltebereiche aus ein und demselben Material, werden temperaturbedingte elektrische Spannungen grundsätzlich vermieden. Messfehler tauchen aus diesem Grund ebenfalls nicht mehr auf. Auf aufwändige Temperaturmessungen zur Korrektur derartiger Messfehler kann somit verzichtet werden.Of the inventive conductor section for a Device for Determining electrical quantities with the Features of the main claim has the advantage that the mentioned disadvantages be avoided. By the one-piece production of the main conductor and thus its measuring section and the holding areas of one and the same Material, temperature-induced electrical voltages are avoided. Measuring errors are no longer apparent for this reason. On complex Temperature measurements to correct for such measurement errors can thus be waived.

Durch die in den Unteransprüchen aufgeführten Maßnahmen sind vorteilhafte Weiterbildungen des Leiterabschnitts nach dem Hauptanspruch möglich. Eine weitere Verbesserung ergibt sich dann, wenn die Klemme und der Hauptleiter ebenfalls einstückig aus ein und demselben Material ausgeführt sind. Dies vereinfacht die Herstellung des Leiterabschnitts bzw. des Hauptleiters insgesamt. Es sind nicht mehr mehrere größere Metallteile durch ein Fügeverfahren miteinander zu verbinden. Eine weitere Fehlerquelle kann somit ausgeschlossen werden.By in the subclaims listed activities are advantageous developments of the conductor section after the Main claim possible. A further improvement results when the clamp and the main conductor also in one piece made of one and the same material. This is simplified the production of the conductor section or the main conductor as a whole. There are no longer several larger metal parts through a joining process to connect with each other. Another source of error can thus be excluded become.

Ein besonders einfaches Herstellungsverfahren für diesen Hauptleiter bzw. den Hauptleiter mit der Klemme besteht darin, diesen oder diese Teile strangzupressen.One particularly simple production method for this main conductor or the Main conductor with the clamp is to extrude this or these parts.

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In den Zeichnungen sind ein Ausführungsbeispiel eines erfindungsgemäßen Leiterabschnitts sowie ein Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen mit einem solchen Leiterabschnitt dargestellt. Es zeigen:In The drawings are an embodiment a conductor section according to the invention and a machine for determining electrical quantities with such a conductor section shown. Show it:

1 den Leiterabschnitt in einer Seitenansicht, 1 the ladder section in a side view,

2 das Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen mit dem Leiterabschnitt in einer vereinfachten Darstellungsweise. 2 the device for determining electrical quantities with the conductor section in a simplified representation.

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Die 1 zeigt einen Leiterabschnitt 10, der für ein Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen, insbesondere einen Batteriesensor vorgesehen ist. Dieser Hauptleiter 10 ist für die Durchleitung eines Laststroms zwischen einer elektrischen Energiequelle und elektrischen Verbrauchern vorgesehen. Der Hauptleiter 10 ist über einen Verbindungsbereich 13 mit einer Klemme 16 einstückig verbunden. Die Klemme 16 und der Hauptleiter 10 sind somit aus ein und demselben Material ausgeführt. Der Hauptleiter 10 ist im We sentlichen quaderförmig und besteht aus einem Messabschnitt 19, der durch die Lage zweier Verbindungsleiter 22 definiert ist. Der Messabschnitt 19 ist der Längenabschnitt des Hauptleiters 10, der zwischen den beiden Verbindungsleitern 22 angeordnet ist. Beiderseits des Messabschnitts 19 befindet sich je ein Haltebereich 25. Ein erster Haltebereich 25, nämlich jener, welcher der Klemme 16 zugewandt ist, dient zum Halten des Hauptleiters 10 an der Klemme 16 selbst. Dies geschieht in diesem Beispiel mittels des Verbindungsbereichs 13. Der andere Haltebereich 25, jener der von der Klemme 16 abgewandt ist, dient dazu, den Hauptleiter mit einem Anschlussleiter zu verbinden, der zur Stromversorgung von hier nicht dargestellten Verbrauchern dient. Die zumindest zwei Verbindungsleiter 22, sind am Hauptleiter 10 befestigt bzw. kontaktieren diesen, um eine Auswerteschaltung 28 mit elektrischen Signalen vom Hauptleiter 10 zu versorgen.The 1 shows a ladder section 10 , which is provided for a device for determining electrical variables, in particular a battery sensor. This main conductor 10 is intended for the passage of a load current between an electrical energy source and electrical consumers. The main conductor 10 is over a connection area 13 with a clamp 16 integrally connected. the clamp 16 and the principal 10 are thus made of one and the same material. The main conductor 10 is essen- we cuboid and consists of a measuring section 19 by the location of two connection conductors 22 is defined. The measuring section 19 is the length of the main conductor 10 which is between the two connecting conductors 22 is arranged. On both sides of the measuring section 19 there is a holding area 25 , A first holding area 25 namely, that which is the terminal 16 facing, serves to hold the main conductor 10 at the terminal 16 This is done in this example by means of the connection area 13 , The other holding area 25 , those of the clamp 16 turned away, serves to connect the main conductor with a connecting conductor, which is used for power supply of consumers, not shown here. The at least two connecting conductors 22 , are at the executive 10 attached or contact this to an evaluation circuit 28 with electrical signals from the main conductor 10 to supply.

Es ist somit ein Hauptleiter 10 vorgesehen, der für ein Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen, insbesondere einen Batteriesensor, bestimmt ist, der für die Durchleitung eines Laststroms I vorgesehen ist und der einen Messabschnitt 19 mit benachbarten Haltebereichen 25 hat. Es ist dabei vorgesehen, dass der Hauptleiter 10 mit seinem Messabschnitt 19 und den beiderseits des Messabschnitts 19 benachbarten Haltebereichen 25 einstückig aus ein und dem selben Material ausgeführt ist.It is thus a main conductor 10 provided, which is intended for a device for determining electrical variables, in particular a battery sensor, which is provided for the passage of a load current I and the one measuring section 19 with adjacent holding areas 25 Has. It is here seen that the main conductor 10 with his measuring section 19 and on both sides of the measuring section 19 adjacent holding areas 25 made in one piece from one and the same material.

Der Hauptleiter 10 ist mittels dem Verbindungsbereich 13 und der Klemme 16, die durch ihre Gestalt dazu geeignet ist an einer elektrischen Energiequelle angeschlossen werden zu können, eben an dieser anschließbar. Die Klemme 16 ist ringförmig und hat einen Verspannungsabschnitt 31. Der Verspannungsabschnitt 31 dient dazu, die auf einen bolzenartigen Anschluss einer Kraftfahrzeugbatterie aufgesetzte Klemme 16 zu verspannen und somit an der Batterie kraft- und reibschlüssig zu befestigen.The main conductor 10 is by means of the connection area 13 and the clamp 16 , which is suitable by its shape to be connected to an electrical energy source, just connected to this. the clamp 16 is annular and has a bracing section 31 , The tension section 31 serves to the patch on a bolt-like connection of a motor vehicle battery clamp 16 to brace and thus secure to the battery force and friction.

Es ist vorgesehen, dass der Hauptleiter 10 oder der Hauptleiter 10 und die Klemme 16 stranggepresst sind. Selbstverständlich gilt dies auch in Kombination mit einem Verbindungsbereich 13, der einstückig zwischen der Klemme 16 und dem Hauptleiter 10 vorgesehen sein kann.It is envisaged that the main conductor 10 or the main conductor 10 and the clamp 16 are extruded. Of course, this also applies in combination with a connection area 13 that is in one piece between the clamp 16 and the principal 10 can be provided.

In 2 ist schematisch ein Gerät 34 zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen mit dem Hauptleiter 10 dargestellt.In 2 is a schematic device 34 for determining electrical quantities with the main conductor 10 shown.

Die Klemme 16 kann selbstverständlich durch jede andere Verbindung zu einem stromführenden Anschluss eines elektrischen Energiespeichers oder Energiewandlers ersetzt werden, sofern die Vorteile bezüglich einfacher Herstellung aus einem einheitlichen Material weiter gegeben sind.the clamp 16 can of course be replaced by any other connection to a current-carrying connection of an electrical energy storage or energy converter, provided that the advantages in terms of ease of manufacture of a uniform material are given.

Das Gerät 34 ist dazu vorgesehen, mittels der Auswerteschaltung 28 den Strom I im Messabschnitt 19 zu ermitteln. Hierbei ist vorgesehen, dass der dem Strom proportionale Spannungsabfall zwischen zwei definierten Punkten A und B gemessen wird. Wahlweise kann der Messpunkt A auch bspw. in den Verbindungsbereich 13 gesetzt werden, A'. Der Messpunkt A kann selbstverständlich auch durch einen Messpunkt A'' ersetzt werden, der sich bspw. an beliebiger Stelle im Bereich der Polklemme 16 befindet. Dies ist besonders dann möglich und sinnvoll, wenn erfindungsgemäß vorgesehen ist, dass der Hauptleiter 10 und die Klemme 16 einstückig sein sollen bzw. alternativ der Hauptleiter 10 mit Verbindungsbereich 13 und Klemme 16.The device 34 is intended, by means of the evaluation circuit 28 the current I in the measuring section 19 to investigate. It is provided that the current-proportional voltage drop between two defined points A and B is measured. Optionally, the measuring point A can also, for example, in the connection area 13 be set, A '. Of course, the measuring point A can also be replaced by a measuring point A "which, for example, is located at any point in the region of the pole terminal 16 located. This is particularly possible and useful if it is provided according to the invention that the main conductor 10 and the clamp 16 should be integral or alternatively the main conductor 10 with connection area 13 and clamp 16 ,

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Hauptleiter (10) für ein Gerät (34) zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen, insbesondere einen Batteriesensor, wobei der Hauptleiter (10) für die Durchleitung eines Laststroms (I) vorgesehen ist und der mit seinem Messabschnitt (19) und beiderseits des Messabschnitts (19) benachbarten Haltebereichen einstückig aus ein und dem selben Material ausgeführt ist.Main ladder ( 10 ) for a device ( 34 ) for determining electrical variables, in particular a battery sensor, wherein the main conductor ( 10 ) is provided for the passage of a load current (I) and with its measuring section ( 19 ) and on both sides of the measuring section ( 19 ) adjacent holding areas is made in one piece from one and the same material. Hauptleiter nach Anspruch 1, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass eine Klemme (16) und der Hauptleiter (10) einstückig aus ein und demselben Material ausgeführt sind.Main conductor according to Claim 1, characterized in that a terminal ( 16 ) and the principal ( 10 ) are made in one piece from one and the same material. Hauptleiter nach Anspruch 2, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Klemme (16) durch ihre Gestalt dazu geeignet ist, an einer elektrischen Energiequelle angeschlossen werden zu können.Main conductor according to claim 2, characterized in that the terminal ( 16 ) is suitable by its shape to be connected to an electrical energy source. Hauptleiter nach Anspruch 2 oder 3, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass die Klemme (16) ringförmig ist und einen Verspannungsabschnitt (31) hat.Main conductor according to Claim 2 or 3, characterized in that the terminal ( 16 ) is annular and a tensioning section ( 31 ) Has. Hauptleiter nach einem der Ansprüche 1 bis 4 oder einem der Ansprüche 2 bis 3, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass der Hauptleiter (10) oder der Hauptleiter (10) und die Klemme (16) stranggepresst sind.Main conductor according to one of Claims 1 to 4 or one of Claims 2 to 3, characterized in that the main conductor ( 10 ) or the principal ( 10 ) and the clamp ( 16 ) are extruded. Gerät zum Ermitteln von elektrischen Größen, insbesondere Batteriesensor, dadurch gekennzeichnet, dass dieses einen Leiterabschnitt hat, der nach einem der vorstehenden Ansprüche ausgebildet ist.device for determining electrical variables, in particular battery sensor, characterized in that it has a conductor portion which is designed according to one of the preceding claims.
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