EP1416764B1 - Method of setting parameters of a hearing aid and device for carrying out this method - Google Patents

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EP1416764B1
EP1416764B1 EP20030028311 EP03028311A EP1416764B1 EP 1416764 B1 EP1416764 B1 EP 1416764B1 EP 20030028311 EP20030028311 EP 20030028311 EP 03028311 A EP03028311 A EP 03028311A EP 1416764 B1 EP1416764 B1 EP 1416764B1
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    • H04RLOUDSPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, GRAMOPHONE PICK-UPS OR LIKE ACOUSTIC ELECTROMECHANICAL TRANSDUCERS; DEAF-AID SETS; PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
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  • the present invention relates to a method for adjusting a hearing aid and to an apparatus for carrying out the method.
  • a tone audiogram is used as the basis for the new hearing aid setting.
  • the actual desired setting of the hearing aid parameters - such as gain, compression, limitation, knee point or time constant - often deviates very much from the audiogram-based preset.
  • the need for amplification may deviate up to 20 dB from the target gain precalculated according to the audiogram.
  • a different basis of presetting than the audiogram alone is desirable.
  • the present invention is therefore based on the object of specifying a simple and efficient method for setting a first hearing device based on settings of a second hearing device.
  • the invention has the following advantages: in that a predefined measuring signal is applied to a microphone of a hearing device which is adapted to a specific hearing aid wearer and in that an acoustic signal generated by a listener of this hearing aid is recorded and recorded in a hearing aid to be adjusted, wherein settings in a new hearing aid due to results of the Evaluation are made in the evaluation, a particularly suitable method for Movanpassung the new hearing aid is created.
  • the method according to the invention very quickly leads to a spontaneous acceptance of the newly set hearing device in the case of the hearing aid wearer and considerably reduces the fitting outlay compared with the methods used today. In addition, the acoustician needs less time for initial adaptation.
  • Fig. 1 is a control unit 1, an existing hearing aid 2, which is set to a specific hearing aid wearer and is referred to below as a second hearing aid, and another hearing aid 3 shown, which is operatively connected to the second hearing aid 2 and is referred to below as the first hearing aid.
  • the control unit 1 which for example a commercially available PC (personal computer), consisting essentially of input / output unit and arithmetic unit, a fitting program (fitting software program) is processed, which allows the acoustician as simple and quick hearing aid adaptation to a specific hearing aid wearer.
  • PC personal computer
  • control unit 1 on the one hand with a loudspeaker 6, by means of which acoustic test signals 20 can be generated, on the other hand connected via the connecting line 7 with the first hearing aid 3, which is equipped as usual with a microphone 3a and a receiver 3b.
  • the first hearing device 3 has an audio input 10, via which an audio signal can be supplied.
  • the second hearing device 2 likewise has a microphone 2a and a receiver 2b, the latter being completely covered by a coupling element 5, so that a closed cavity is created. In this cavity also a measuring microphone 4 is arranged, whose signal is applied to the audio input 10 of the first hearing aid 3.
  • a known coupling element for use in the present invention is described, for example, in Phonak Focus No. 20 entitled “ The Desired Sensation Level (DSL) Method for Hearing Aid Fitting Infants and Children "(Richard C. Seewald, 1995 ).
  • DSL Desired Sensation Level
  • the object of the present invention is to provide a hearing aid setting for to find the first hearing aid 3, which is as similar as possible to that of the second hearing aid 2.
  • This first hearing aid setting is then ideally suited as a starting point for further fine adjustments and optimizations of the hearing aid settings.
  • the first hearing device 3 can be brought into a so-called measurement mode at the beginning of the adaptation, in which the transmission properties of the second hearing device 2 are analyzed and transmitted to the control unit 1.
  • the adaptation software executed in the control unit 1 transforms the information obtained into a parameter set which can be understood by the first hearing device 3. Incidentally, the entire sequence of the setting of the first hearing device 3 is controlled or monitored by the fitting software. Likewise, any instructions or error messages on the control unit 1 are displayed to the acoustician.
  • control unit 1 for example, a so-called sound card is used to drive the loudspeaker 6, as used in conventional personal computers.
  • the second hearing device 2 is coupled to the coupling element 5 having a known transmission characteristic, which contains the measuring microphone 4, preferably in the form of a probe microphone (corresponding to IEC Standard 126 2cc coupler HA-1 for ITE (In -The-Ear) hearing aids or HA-2 for BTE (Behind-the-Ear) hearing aids).
  • the signal of the measuring microphone 4 is fed via the audio input 10 into the first hearing device 3 and analyzed therein.
  • a filter bank which is present in the first hearing device 3 and which is used for signal processing during normal operation of the hearing aid can be used.
  • the microphone 3a of the first hearing device 3 picks up the sound of the loudspeaker 6 and serves as a reference microphone for determining the volume or sound level and for controlling the sound presentation via the control unit 1.
  • This also creates the possibility that a calibration of the first hearing aid 3 can be made.
  • the two hearing aids 2 and 3 should be close together so that the same sound field is present.
  • the adaptation of the first hearing device 3 can be made optimally if no acoustic interference signals can be picked up by the microphones 2a and 3a.
  • the whole arrangement is located in a sound-deadened room.
  • noise is detected by a corresponding algorithm in the control unit 1, whereby erroneous measured values can be eliminated (artefact rejection).
  • acoustic test signals 20 such as white noise at different levels.
  • test signals but also sinusoidal or sinusoidal signals, wobble tones, natural language or music are conceivable.
  • transient test signals 20 e.g., level jumps
  • the temporal behavior such as the time constant of the compression.
  • the first hearing device 3 can now be set so that the transfer functions of the first and second hearing devices 3 and 2 become as similar as possible.
  • the second hearing device 2 to be measured can be any hearing device.
  • the "new" first hearing device 3 has a frequency resolution and an audio input 10, to which a simple coupling of the measuring microphone 4 is possible.
  • the measurement is carried out in as quiet a room as possible - which incidentally is also necessary for the measurement of the feedback threshold of a hearing device or the hearing threshold of the hearing impaired person.
  • the conditions at the space required for the measurements in an acoustician are therefore already readily met.
  • the second hearing aid 2 is connected to the coupling element 5, which is for example a so-called 2cc coupler.
  • the 2cc coupler is defined according to standard IEC 126 (see above literature by Richard C. Seewald), although other couplers can be used as long as a defined volume with appropriate coupling is present. A conversion to standardized 2cc values is then possible at any time.
  • an adapter with a channel for a probe tube is inserted into the coupling element 5.
  • the actual measuring microphone 5 forms, for example, a RECD (Real-Ear-to-Coupler Difference) - direct audio shoe (see again IEC 126 and the literature cited by Richard C. Seewald), whose probe tube protrudes into the 2cc volume via the adapter.
  • RECD Real-Ear-to-Coupler Difference
  • the first and the second hearing device 2 and 3 are placed on a smooth surface so that the microphones 2a and 3a of the two hearing aids 2 and 3 are close to each other.
  • the loudspeaker 6 used for sonication with test signals 20 is, for example, approximately 50 cm away from the microphones 2a and 3a.
  • ICRA noises Artificial noise signals with speech-like spectral and temporal properties for hearing aid assessment "(Audiology, Vol. 40, No. 3, May-June, 2001, pp. 148-157 ) contain.
  • the test signals 20 are given to the loudspeaker 6 via the sound card of the personal computer operating as the control unit 1.
  • a stationary white noise is reproduced as a test signal 20 via the loudspeaker 6.
  • Input level averaging means present in the first hearing device 3 are read out and, if appropriate, the reproduction is corrected spectrally and in terms of level, provided that no excessive changes are necessary. Otherwise, the acoustician is informed that the speaker quality is insufficient. If a spectral correction via the control unit 1 is not possible, the method can nevertheless be carried out. However, the informative value of the results is somewhat limited.
  • the spectral background level in the test room is determined using the same method. If it is so high that a meaningful measurement is not possible, the acoustician, for example via the control unit 1, informed accordingly.
  • a first measurement consists for example in that a modulated test noise (see above) is reproduced via the loudspeaker 6 in succession as the acoustic test signal 20 with the levels 50, 65 and 80 dB.
  • the reproduction of the second hearing device 2 to be measured is detected by means of the measuring microphone 4. This reproduction is representative of the reproduction of modulated signals, e.g. Language.
  • a second measurement consists, for example, in that over the loudspeaker 6 an unmodulated test noise (see above) is reproduced as an acoustic test signal 20 at 65 dB.
  • the reproduction of the second hearing device 2 to be measured is detected. This reproduction is representative of stationary sound reproduction.
  • the amount of noise reduction (noise canceling) is determined from the reproduction difference between the first and the second measurement.
  • a third measurement may be that an unmodulated noise is reproduced via the loudspeaker 6 with a level jump of 25 dB in the middle of the signal (first 55 dB, then 80 dB and then 55 dB). From the response detected in the coupling element 5, the order of magnitude of the entry and release times can be determined.
  • loudspeaker 6 becomes real speech or equivalent modulated test noise (see above) at 65 dB level output as acoustic test signal 20.
  • the amplitude distribution of the recorded signal is evaluated and from this the effective dynamic compression and the time constants of the compression can be determined, which will be explained further below.
  • the effective dynamic compression of a signal is determined as follows: First, one determines the dynamics of the input signal of a typical modulated signal, such as speech at 65 dB SPL. It results e.g. from the difference between the 10th and 95th percentile of the amplitude distribution. Now, the signal picked up by the microphone 2a and processed in the second hearing aid 2 is analyzed in the same way. The ratio of the dynamic range determined above to the dynamic range now obtained indicates the effective compression ratio of the signal processing from the second hearing aid 2.
  • a typical modulated signal such as speech at 65 dB SPL. It results e.g. from the difference between the 10th and 95th percentile of the amplitude distribution.
  • the signal picked up by the microphone 2a and processed in the second hearing aid 2 is analyzed in the same way.
  • the ratio of the dynamic range determined above to the dynamic range now obtained indicates the effective compression ratio of the signal processing from the second hearing aid 2.
  • the time constants of the compression control can be determined on the other side as follows:
  • the results of the first measurement are used to set the input / output functions of the different channels.
  • the difference between the second and the first measurement is used to adjust the amount of noise cancellation (noise canceling). If the time constants of the gain control belong to the fitting parameters, the third measurement can be used to set the settling times.
  • the individual programs are activated one after the other in the second hearing device 2 to be measured and measured with the described method.
  • the volume adjuster is preferably placed in the position to be measured, second hearing aid 2 in that position, which is suitable for listening ffenlauter sound.
  • For digital hearing aids is this is usually the setting directly after switching on the hearing aid.
  • the second hearing device 2 must additionally be sonicated with 90 dB.
  • the method described is used.
  • a 90 dB performance is usually uncomfortable for the acoustician and the hearing aid user.
  • Fig. 2 shows a further embodiment of the invention, wherein these from the in Fig. 1 shown embodiment differs only in that the acoustic test signal 20 is generated by means of the first hearing aid 3.
  • a further coupling element 50 between the second and the first hearing device 2 or 3 is necessary.
  • the speaker 6 is required in this embodiment only for the mentioned calibration.
  • the main processing of the signals is carried out - under the guidance of the control unit 1 - mainly in the first hearing aid 3.
  • the various measurement methods that are associated with the in Fig. 1 illustrated embodiment, according to the embodiment according to Fig. 2 usable and therefore need no further explanation.

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Die vorliegende Erfindung betrifft ein Verfahren zur Einstellung eines Hörgerätes sowie eine Vorrichtung zur Durchführung des Verfahrens.The present invention relates to a method for adjusting a hearing aid and to an apparatus for carrying out the method.

Bei einem Wechsel von einem bestehenden auf ein neues Hörgerät wird auch beim erfahrenen Hörgerätebenutzer wie bei einer Erstanpassung verfahren, d.h. es wird ein Tonaudiogramm als Basis für die Einstellung des neuen Hörgerätes verwendet. Die Erfahrung hat aber gezeigt, dass insbesondere bei langjährigen Hörgerätebenutzern die tatsächlich gewünschte Einstellung der Hörgeräteparameter - wie Verstärkung, Kompression, Begrenzung, Kniepunkt oder Zeitkonstanten - oft sehr stark von der Audiogramm-basierten Voreinstellung abweicht. Bei einem Wechsel auf ein neues Hörgerät wird daher vielmehr eine Einstellung gewünscht, welche der des eigenen gewohnten Hörgerätes möglichst ähnlich ist. Insbesondere bei hochgradig Schwerhörigen kann der Verstärkungsbedarf um bis zu 20 dB von der nach Audiogramm vorberechneten Zielverstärkung nach oben oder unten abweichen. Hier ist eine andere Grundlage der Voreinstellung als das Audiogramm alleine wünschenswert.When changing from an existing to a new hearing aid, the experienced hearing aid user will also be treated like a first adaptation, i. a tone audiogram is used as the basis for the new hearing aid setting. Experience has shown, however, that especially with long-term hearing aid users, the actual desired setting of the hearing aid parameters - such as gain, compression, limitation, knee point or time constant - often deviates very much from the audiogram-based preset. When changing to a new hearing aid therefore rather a setting is desired, which is as similar as possible to one's own hearing aid. In particular in the case of the severely deaf, the need for amplification may deviate up to 20 dB from the target gain precalculated according to the audiogram. Here, a different basis of presetting than the audiogram alone is desirable.

Berichte von Erfahrungen haben aufgezeigt, dass durch Verwendung einer Voreinstellung, basierend auf der alten Hörgeräteinstellung, eine sehr effektive und erfolgreiche Anpassmethode zur Verfügung steht, die häufig der Audiogramm-basierten Anpassung überlegen ist.Experience reports have shown that using a preset based on the old hearing aid setting is a very effective and successful one Fitting method, which is often superior to audiogram-based fitting.

Derzeit ist hierfür keine einfache automatische Prozedur bekannt, die diese Art der Voreinstellung eines Hörgerätes unterstützt. Eine Möglichkeit besteht zwar darin, dass das eigene alte Hörgerät in einer speziell hierfür vorgesehenen Messvorrichtung bei verschiedenen Eingangspegeln auszumessen. Die gemessenen Werte müssen dann manuell in die Anpasssoftware des neuen Hörgerätes übernommen werden, was mühsam und fehleranfällig ist. Derartige Messvorrichtungen sind beispielsweise aus US-5 703 797 und aus US-2002/0176584 bekannt.Currently, no simple automatic procedure is known for this, which supports this type of presetting a hearing aid. Although one possibility is to measure the own old hearing aid in a specially provided measuring device at different input levels. The measured values must then be manually transferred to the fitting software of the new hearing aid, which is tedious and error-prone. Such measuring devices are made, for example U.S. 5,703,797 and from US-2002/0176584 known.

Der vorliegenden Erfindung liegt daher die Aufgabe zugrunde, ein einfaches und rationelles Verfahren zur Einstellung eines ersten Hörgerätes, basierend auf Einstellungen eines zweiten Hörgerätes, anzugeben.The present invention is therefore based on the object of specifying a simple and efficient method for setting a first hearing device based on settings of a second hearing device.

Diese Aufgabe wird durch die im Anspruch 1 angegebenen Merkmale gelöst. Vorteilhafte Ausgestaltungen der Erfindung sowie eine Vorrichtung zur Durchführung des Verfahrens sind in weiteren Ansprüchen angegeben.This object is achieved by the features specified in claim 1. Advantageous embodiments of the invention and an apparatus for carrying out the method are specified in further claims.

Die Erfindung weist die folgenden Vorteile auf: Indem ein vordefiniertes Messsignal einem Mikrophon eines Hörgerätes, das auf einen bestimmten Hörgeräteträger angepasst ist, beaufschlagt wird, und indem ein von einem Hörer dieses Hörgerätes erzeugte akustische Signal aufgezeichnet und in einem nenen, einzustellenden Hörgerät ausgewertet wird, wobei Einstellungen in einem neuen Hörgeräte aufgrund von Resultaten der Auswertung in der Auswerteeinheit vorgenommen werden, wird ein besonders geeignetes Verfahren zur Erstanpassung des neuen Hörgerätes geschaffen. Das erfindungsgemässe Verfahren führt sehr schnell zu einer spontanen Akzeptanz des neu eingestellten Hörgerätes beim Hörgeräteträger und verringert gegenüber den heute gebräuchlichen Verfahren den Anpassaufwand erheblich. Darüber hinaus benötigt der Akustiker für eine Erstanpassung weniger Zeit.The invention has the following advantages: in that a predefined measuring signal is applied to a microphone of a hearing device which is adapted to a specific hearing aid wearer and in that an acoustic signal generated by a listener of this hearing aid is recorded and recorded in a hearing aid to be adjusted, wherein settings in a new hearing aid due to results of the Evaluation are made in the evaluation, a particularly suitable method for Erstanpassung the new hearing aid is created. The method according to the invention very quickly leads to a spontaneous acceptance of the newly set hearing device in the case of the hearing aid wearer and considerably reduces the fitting outlay compared with the methods used today. In addition, the acoustician needs less time for initial adaptation.

Im Folgenden wird die Erfindung anhand von Zeichnungen, in denen mögliche Ausführungsformen dargestellt sind, weiter erläutert.In the following the invention with reference to drawings, in which possible embodiments are shown, further explained.

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eine erfindungsgemässe Vorrichtung mit einem ersten, anzupassenden Hörgerät, einem zweiten, angepassten Hörgerät sowie einer Kontrolleinheit und
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Fig. 1
a device according to the invention with a first, to be adapted hearing aid, a second, adapted hearing aid and a control unit and
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a modified embodiment compared to those according to Fig. 1 ,

In Fig. 1 ist eine Kontrolleinheit 1, ein bestehendes Hörgerät 2, das auf einen bestimmten Hörgeräteträger eingestellt ist und im folgenden als zweites Hörgerät bezeichnet wird, und ein weiteres Hörgerät 3 dargestellt, das mit dem zweiten Hörgerät 2 wirkverbunden ist und im folgenden als erstes Hörgerät bezeichnet wird. In der Kontrolleinheit 1, welche beispielsweise ein handelsüblicher PC (Personal Computer), im Wesentlichen bestehend aus Eingabe-/Ausgabeeinheit und Recheneinheit, sein kann, wird ein Anpassungsprogramm (fitting software program) abgearbeitet, das dem Akustiker eine möglichst einfache und schnelle Hörgerätanpassung an einen bestimmten Hörgeräteträger ermöglicht. Hierzu ist die Kontrolleinheit 1 einerseits mit einem Lautsprecher 6, mit Hilfe dessen akustische Testsignale 20 erzeugt werden können, anderseits über die Verbindungsleitung 7 mit dem ersten Hörgerät 3 verbunden, das wie üblich mit einem Mikrophon 3a und einem Hörer 3b ausgestattet ist. Des Weiteren weist das erste Hörgerät 3 einen Audioeingang 10 auf, über den ein Audiosignal zugeführt werden kann.In Fig. 1 is a control unit 1, an existing hearing aid 2, which is set to a specific hearing aid wearer and is referred to below as a second hearing aid, and another hearing aid 3 shown, which is operatively connected to the second hearing aid 2 and is referred to below as the first hearing aid. In the control unit 1, which for example a commercially available PC (personal computer), consisting essentially of input / output unit and arithmetic unit, a fitting program (fitting software program) is processed, which allows the acoustician as simple and quick hearing aid adaptation to a specific hearing aid wearer. For this purpose, the control unit 1 on the one hand with a loudspeaker 6, by means of which acoustic test signals 20 can be generated, on the other hand connected via the connecting line 7 with the first hearing aid 3, which is equipped as usual with a microphone 3a and a receiver 3b. Furthermore, the first hearing device 3 has an audio input 10, via which an audio signal can be supplied.

Das zweite Hörgerät 2 weist ebenfalls ein Mikrophon 2a und einen Hörer 2b auf, wobei dieser mit einem Kuppelelement 5 vollständig abgedeckt ist, so dass ein geschlossener Hohlraum entsteht. In diesem Hohlraum ist zudem ein Messmikrophon 4 angeordnet, dessen Signal dem Audioeingang 10 des ersten Hörgerätes 3 beaufschlagt ist. Ein bekanntes Kuppelelement zur Verwendung bei der vorliegenden Erfindung ist beispielsweise in Phonak Fokus Nr. 20 mit dem Titel " The Desired Sensation Level (DSL) Method for Hearing Aid Fitting in Infants and Children" (Richard C. Seewald, 1995 ) beschrieben. Eine identische Publikation ist in der Druckschrift mit dem Titel "DSL 4.0 Handbook" vom gleichen Autor enthalten.The second hearing device 2 likewise has a microphone 2a and a receiver 2b, the latter being completely covered by a coupling element 5, so that a closed cavity is created. In this cavity also a measuring microphone 4 is arranged, whose signal is applied to the audio input 10 of the first hearing aid 3. A known coupling element for use in the present invention is described, for example, in Phonak Focus No. 20 entitled " The Desired Sensation Level (DSL) Method for Hearing Aid Fitting Infants and Children "(Richard C. Seewald, 1995 ). An identical publication is included in the publication titled "DSL 4.0 Handbook" by the same author.

Wie eingangs beschrieben worden ist, besteht das Ziel der vorliegenden Erfindung darin, eine Hörgeräteeinstellung für das erste Hörgerät 3 zu finden, die der des zweiten Hörgerätes 2 möglichst ähnlich ist. Damit kann eine hohe spontane Akzeptanz beim erstmaligen Tragen des ersten Hörgerätes 3 erreicht werden. Diese erste Hörgeräteinstellung eignet sich dann vorzüglich als Ausgangspunkt für weitere Feinanpassungen und Optimierungen der Hörgeräteinstellungen.As described above, the object of the present invention is to provide a hearing aid setting for to find the first hearing aid 3, which is as similar as possible to that of the second hearing aid 2. Thus, a high spontaneous acceptance when first wearing the first hearing aid 3 can be achieved. This first hearing aid setting is then ideally suited as a starting point for further fine adjustments and optimizations of the hearing aid settings.

Im Folgenden wird das erfindungsgemässe Verfahren beschrieben:The process according to the invention is described below:

In einer ersten Ausführungsform der Erfindung kann das erste Hörgerät 3 zu Beginn der Anpassung in einen so genannten Messmodus gebracht werden, in dem die Übertragungseigenschaften des zweiten Hörgerätes 2 analysiert und an die Kontrolleinheit 1 übermittelt werden. Die in der Kontrolleinheit 1 ausgeführte Anpasssoftware transformiert die erhaltenen Informationen in einen Parametersatz, welcher vom ersten Hörgerät 3 verstanden werden kann. Im Übrigen wird der gesamte Ablauf der Einstellung des ersten Hörgerätes 3 durch die Anpasssoftware gesteuert bzw. überwacht. Ebenso werden allfällige Instruktionen oder Fehlermeldungen über die Kontrolleinheit 1 dem Akustiker angezeigt.In a first embodiment of the invention, the first hearing device 3 can be brought into a so-called measurement mode at the beginning of the adaptation, in which the transmission properties of the second hearing device 2 are analyzed and transmitted to the control unit 1. The adaptation software executed in the control unit 1 transforms the information obtained into a parameter set which can be understood by the first hearing device 3. Incidentally, the entire sequence of the setting of the first hearing device 3 is controlled or monitored by the fitting software. Likewise, any instructions or error messages on the control unit 1 are displayed to the acoustician.

In der Kontrolleinheit 1 wird zur Ansteuerung des Lautsprechers 6 beispielsweise eine so genannte Sound-Karte eingesetzt, wie sie in herkömmlichen Personalcomputern verwendet wird.In the control unit 1, for example, a so-called sound card is used to drive the loudspeaker 6, as used in conventional personal computers.

Wie bereits erwähnt worden ist, ist das zweite Hörgerät 2 an das eine bekannte Übertragungseigenschaft aufweisende Kuppelelement 5 angekoppelt, das das Messmikrophon 4, vorzugsweise in der Form eines Sondenmikrophons, enthält (entsprechend IEC Standard 126 2cc-Kuppler HA-1 für ITE-(In-The-Ear)-Hörgeräte oder HA-2 für BTE-(Behind-The-Ear)-Hörgeräte). Das Signal des Messmikrophons 4 wird über den Audioeingang 10 in das erste Hörgerät 3 eingespeist und in diesem analysiert. Dazu kann eine im ersten Hörgerät 3 vorhandene Filterbank, die im Normalbetrieb des Hörgerätes zur Signalverarbeitung eingesetzt wird, verwendet werden. Gleichzeitig nimmt das Mikrophon 3a des ersten Hörgerätes 3 den Schall des Lautsprechers 6 auf und dient als Referenzmikrofon zur Bestimmung der Lautstärke bzw. des Schallpegels und zur Einregelung der Schalldarbietung über die Kontrolleinheit 1. Hierdurch ist auch die Möglichkeit geschaffen, dass eine Kalibrierung des ersten Hörgerätes 3 vorgenommen werden kann. Dabei sollten sich die beiden Hörgeräte 2 und 3 dicht nebeneinander befinden, damit das gleiche Schallfeld vorliegt. Im Übrigen kann die Anpassung des ersten Hörgerätes 3 optimal vorgenommen werden, wenn keine akustischen Störsignale durch die Mikrophone 2a und 3a aufgenommen werden können. Mit Vorteil befindet sich daher die ganze Anordnung in einem schall-gedämpften Raum. Zudem ist vorgesehen, dass Störgeräusche von einem entsprechenden Algorithmus in der Kontrolleinheit 1 detektiert werden, wodurch fehlerhafte Messwerte eliminiert werden können(artefact rejection).As has already been mentioned, the second hearing device 2 is coupled to the coupling element 5 having a known transmission characteristic, which contains the measuring microphone 4, preferably in the form of a probe microphone (corresponding to IEC Standard 126 2cc coupler HA-1 for ITE (In -The-Ear) hearing aids or HA-2 for BTE (Behind-the-Ear) hearing aids). The signal of the measuring microphone 4 is fed via the audio input 10 into the first hearing device 3 and analyzed therein. For this purpose, a filter bank which is present in the first hearing device 3 and which is used for signal processing during normal operation of the hearing aid can be used. At the same time, the microphone 3a of the first hearing device 3 picks up the sound of the loudspeaker 6 and serves as a reference microphone for determining the volume or sound level and for controlling the sound presentation via the control unit 1. This also creates the possibility that a calibration of the first hearing aid 3 can be made. The two hearing aids 2 and 3 should be close together so that the same sound field is present. Incidentally, the adaptation of the first hearing device 3 can be made optimally if no acoustic interference signals can be picked up by the microphones 2a and 3a. Advantageously, therefore, the whole arrangement is located in a sound-deadened room. In addition, it is provided that noise is detected by a corresponding algorithm in the control unit 1, whereby erroneous measured values can be eliminated (artefact rejection).

Dieser Anordnung werden nun unterschiedliche akustische Testsignale 20 dargeboten, wie zum Beispiel weisses Rauschen mit unterschiedlichen Pegeln. Als Testsignale sind aber auch Sinus- bzw. sinusförmige Signale, Wobbel-Töne, natürliche Sprache oder Musik denkbar. Durch Aufzeichnen von akustischen Signalen 21, welche durch den Hörer 2b ins Kuppelelement 5 abgegeben und durch das Messmikrophon 4 aufgenommen werden, kann die Übertragungsfunktion des zweiten Hörgerätes 2 im ersten Hörgerät 3 ermittelt werden. Weiter können transiente Testsignale 20 (z.B. Pegelsprünge) benutzt werden, um das zeitliche Verhalten, wie etwa die Zeitkonstanten der Kompression, zu bestimmen.This arrangement is now presented with different acoustic test signals 20, such as white noise at different levels. As test signals but also sinusoidal or sinusoidal signals, wobble tones, natural language or music are conceivable. By recording acoustic signals 21 which are emitted by the receiver 2b into the coupling element 5 and recorded by the measuring microphone 4, the transmission function of the second hearing device 2 in the first hearing device 3 can be determined. Further, transient test signals 20 (e.g., level jumps) may be used to determine the temporal behavior, such as the time constant of the compression.

Basierend auf diesen Messdaten kann nun das erste Hörgerät 3 so eingestellt werden, dass die Übertragungsfunktionen des ersten und zweiten Hörgerätes 3 und 2 so ähnlich wie möglich werden.Based on these measurement data, the first hearing device 3 can now be set so that the transfer functions of the first and second hearing devices 3 and 2 become as similar as possible.

Es wird darauf hingewiesen, dass das zweite, zu vermessende Hörgeräte 2 ein beliebiges Hörgerät sein kann. Das "neue", erste Hörgerät 3 verfügt über eine Frequenzauflösung und über einen Audioeingang 10, an den eine einfache Ankoppelung des Messmikrophons 4 möglich ist.It is pointed out that the second hearing device 2 to be measured can be any hearing device. The "new" first hearing device 3 has a frequency resolution and an audio input 10, to which a simple coupling of the measuring microphone 4 is possible.

Die Messung erfolgt in einem möglichst ruhigen Raum - was im Übrigen auch für die Messung der Feedback-Schwelle eines Hörgeräts oder der Hörschwelle des Schwerhörigen erforderlich ist. Die Bedingungen an den für die Messungen benötigten Raum bei einem Akustiker sind daher ohne weiteres bereits erfüllt.The measurement is carried out in as quiet a room as possible - which incidentally is also necessary for the measurement of the feedback threshold of a hearing device or the hearing threshold of the hearing impaired person. The conditions at the space required for the measurements in an acoustician are therefore already readily met.

Das zweite Hörgerät 2 wird an das Kuppelelement 5 angeschlossen, welches beispielsweise ein so genannter 2cc-Kuppler ist. Der 2cc-Kuppler ist gemäss Standard IEC 126 (siehe vorstehende Literatur von Richard C. Seewald) definiert, wobei auch andere Kuppler verwendet werden können, so lange ein definiertes Volumen mit entsprechender Ankopplung vorhanden sind. Eine Umrechnung auf standardisierte 2cc-Werte ist dann jederzeit möglich. Anstelle eines Standardmikrophons ist ein Adapter mit Kanal für einen Sondenschlauch in das Kuppelelement 5 eingeführt. Das eigentliche Messmikrophon 5 bildet beispielsweise ein RECD (Real-Ear-to-Coupler Difference)- direct Audioschuh (siehe wiederum IEC 126 bzw. die angegebene Literatur von Richard C. Seewald), dessen Sondenschlauch über den Adapter in das 2cc-Volumen ragt.The second hearing aid 2 is connected to the coupling element 5, which is for example a so-called 2cc coupler. The 2cc coupler is defined according to standard IEC 126 (see above literature by Richard C. Seewald), although other couplers can be used as long as a defined volume with appropriate coupling is present. A conversion to standardized 2cc values is then possible at any time. Instead of a standard microphone, an adapter with a channel for a probe tube is inserted into the coupling element 5. The actual measuring microphone 5 forms, for example, a RECD (Real-Ear-to-Coupler Difference) - direct audio shoe (see again IEC 126 and the literature cited by Richard C. Seewald), whose probe tube protrudes into the 2cc volume via the adapter.

In einer bevorzugten Ausführungsform der Erfindung werden das erste und das zweite Hörgerät 2 bzw. 3 so auf eine glatte Fläche gelegt, dass die Mikrofone 2a und 3a der beiden Hörgeräte 2 und 3 nahe beieinander liegen. Der Lautsprecher 6, der für die Beschallung mit Testsignalen 20 verwendet wird, steht beispielsweise in etwa 50 cm Entfernung zu den Mikrophonen 2a und 3a.In a preferred embodiment of the invention, the first and the second hearing device 2 and 3 are placed on a smooth surface so that the microphones 2a and 3a of the two hearing aids 2 and 3 are close to each other. The loudspeaker 6 used for sonication with test signals 20 is, for example, approximately 50 cm away from the microphones 2a and 3a.

Wie bereits erwähnt worden ist, werden für die Messung über den Lautsprecher 6 zum Beispiel stationäres oder sprachmoduliertes weisses Rauschen oder ICRA-noise wiedergegeben. Eine Definition des ICRA-noise ist beispielsweise im Aufsatz von W. A. Dreschler, H. Verschuure, C. Ludvigsen und S. Westermann mit dem Titel " ICRA noises: Artificial noise signals with speech-like spectral and temporal properties for hearing aid assessment" (Audiology, Bd. 40, Nr. 3, Mai-Juni, 2001, S. 148-157 ) enthalten. Die Testsignale 20 werden über die Sound-Karte des als Kontrolleinheit 1 arbeitenden Personalcomputers auf den Lautsprecher 6 gegeben.As already mentioned, for the measurement via the loudspeaker 6, for example, stationary or speech-modulated white noise or ICRA noise are reproduced. A definition of the ICRA noise is, for example, in the article by WA Dreschler, H. Verschuure, C. Ludvigsen and S. Westermann entitled " ICRA noises: Artificial noise signals with speech-like spectral and temporal properties for hearing aid assessment "(Audiology, Vol. 40, No. 3, May-June, 2001, pp. 148-157 ) contain. The test signals 20 are given to the loudspeaker 6 via the sound card of the personal computer operating as the control unit 1.

Zur Kalibrierung des ersten Hörgerätes 3 wird über den Lautsprecher 6 ein stationäres weisses Rauschen als Testsignal 20 wiedergegeben. Im ersten Hörgerät 3 vorhandene Eingangspegelmittelwertbildner werden ausgelesen und die Wiedergabe gegebenenfalls spektral und im Pegel korrigiert, sofern keine zu grossen Änderungen notwendig sind. Andernfalls wird der Akustiker darüber informiert, dass die Lautsprecher-Qualität nicht ausreichend ist. Wenn eine spektrale Korrektur über die Kontrolleinheit 1 nicht möglich ist, kann das Verfahren dennoch durchgeführt werden. Allerdings ist die Aussagefähigkeit der Ergebnisse etwas eingeschränkt.To calibrate the first hearing device 3, a stationary white noise is reproduced as a test signal 20 via the loudspeaker 6. Input level averaging means present in the first hearing device 3 are read out and, if appropriate, the reproduction is corrected spectrally and in terms of level, provided that no excessive changes are necessary. Otherwise, the acoustician is informed that the speaker quality is insufficient. If a spectral correction via the control unit 1 is not possible, the method can nevertheless be carried out. However, the informative value of the results is somewhat limited.

Vor und nach der Kalibrierung der Wiedergabepegel wird der spektrale Hintergrundpegel im Testraum mit derselben Methode ermittelt. Liegt er so hoch, dass eine sinnvolle Messung nicht möglich ist, wird der Akustiker, beispielsweise über die Kontrolleinheit 1, entsprechend informiert.Before and after calibration of the playback levels, the spectral background level in the test room is determined using the same method. If it is so high that a meaningful measurement is not possible, the acoustician, for example via the control unit 1, informed accordingly.

Eine erste Messung besteht beispielsweise darin, dass über den Lautsprecher 6 ein moduliertes Testrauschen (siehe oben) als akustisches Testsignal 20 nacheinander mit den Pegeln 50, 65 und 80 dB wiedergegeben wird. Im Kuppelelement 5 wird mit Hilfe des Messmikrophons 4 jeweils die Wiedergabe des auszumessenden, zweiten Hörgeräts 2 erfasst. Diese Wiedergabe ist repräsentativ für die Wiedergabe modulierter Signale wie z.B. Sprache.A first measurement consists for example in that a modulated test noise (see above) is reproduced via the loudspeaker 6 in succession as the acoustic test signal 20 with the levels 50, 65 and 80 dB. In the coupling element 5, the reproduction of the second hearing device 2 to be measured is detected by means of the measuring microphone 4. This reproduction is representative of the reproduction of modulated signals, e.g. Language.

Eine zweite Messung besteht beispielsweise darin, dass über den Lautsprecher 6 ein unmoduliertes Testrauschen (siehe oben) bei 65 dB als akustisches Testsignal 20 wiedergegeben wird. Am Kuppelelement 5 wird die Wiedergabe des zu messenden, zweiten Hörgeräts 2 erfasst. Diese Wiedergabe ist repräsentativ für die Wiedergabe stationärer Geräusche. Aus der Wiedergabedifferenz zwischen der ersten und der zweiten Messung wird das Ausmass an Rauschunterdrückung (Noise Cancelling) ermittelt.A second measurement consists, for example, in that over the loudspeaker 6 an unmodulated test noise (see above) is reproduced as an acoustic test signal 20 at 65 dB. At the coupling element 5, the reproduction of the second hearing device 2 to be measured is detected. This reproduction is representative of stationary sound reproduction. The amount of noise reduction (noise canceling) is determined from the reproduction difference between the first and the second measurement.

Eine dritte Messung besteht bei Bedarf beispielsweise darin, dass über den Lautsprecher 6 ein unmoduliertes Rauschen mit einem Pegelsprung von 25 dB in der Mitte des Signals wiedergegeben wird (zuerst 55 dB, dann 80 dB und dann 55 dB). Aus der im Kuppelelement 5 erfassten Antwort kann die Grössenordnung der Ein- und Ausschwingzeiten ermittelt werden.For example, if necessary, a third measurement may be that an unmodulated noise is reproduced via the loudspeaker 6 with a level jump of 25 dB in the middle of the signal (first 55 dB, then 80 dB and then 55 dB). From the response detected in the coupling element 5, the order of magnitude of the entry and release times can be determined.

Bei einer alternativen dritten Messung wird über den Lautsprecher 6 reale Sprache oder ein äquivalentes moduliertes Testrauschen (siehe oben) mit dem Pegel 65 dB als akustisches Testsignal 20 ausgegeben. Die Amplitudenverteilung des aufgenommenen Signals wird ausgewertet und daraus lassen sich die effektive Dynamikkompression und die Zeitkonstanten der Kompression bestimmen, was im folgenden weiter erläutert wird.In an alternative third measurement, loudspeaker 6 becomes real speech or equivalent modulated test noise (see above) at 65 dB level output as acoustic test signal 20. The amplitude distribution of the recorded signal is evaluated and from this the effective dynamic compression and the time constants of the compression can be determined, which will be explained further below.

Die effektive Dynamikkompression eines Signals wird wie folgt bestimmt: Zunächst bestimmt man die Dynamik des Eingangssignals eines typischen modulierten Signals, so beispielsweise von Sprache bei 65 dB SPL. Sie ergibt sich z.B. aus der Differenz etwa des 10-ten und 95-ten Perzentils der Amplitudenverteilung. Nun wird das mit dem Mikrophon 2a aufgenommene und im zweiten Hörgerät 2 verarbeitete Signal auf die gleiche Weise analysiert. Das Verhältnis des oben bestimmten Dynamikbereichs zu dem nun erhaltenen Dynamikbereich gibt das effektive Kompressionsverhältnis der Signalverarbeitung vom zweiten Hörgerät 2 an.The effective dynamic compression of a signal is determined as follows: First, one determines the dynamics of the input signal of a typical modulated signal, such as speech at 65 dB SPL. It results e.g. from the difference between the 10th and 95th percentile of the amplitude distribution. Now, the signal picked up by the microphone 2a and processed in the second hearing aid 2 is analyzed in the same way. The ratio of the dynamic range determined above to the dynamic range now obtained indicates the effective compression ratio of the signal processing from the second hearing aid 2.

Werden nun zusätzlich die gleichen Messungen mit einem unmodulierten Signal durchgeführt, erhält man das statische Kompressionsverhältnis.If, in addition, the same measurements are carried out with an unmodulated signal, the static compression ratio is obtained.

Die Zeitkonstanten der Kompressionsregelung lassen sich auf der anderen Seite folgendermassen bestimmen:The time constants of the compression control can be determined on the other side as follows:

Man berechnet die Modulationsspektren des durch das zweite Hörgerät 2 verarbeiteten Signals für ein Sprachsignal oder ein sprachartig moduliertes Signal sowie für das gleiche unverarbeitete Signal. Da eine dynamische Kompressionsregelung als Modulations-Hochpassfilter wirkt, hat eine Differenz dieser beiden Modulationsspektren üblicherweise eine Hochpasscharakteristik mit einer gewissen Abschneidefrequenz. Diese Abschneidefrequenz des Modulationshochpasses ist ein direktes Mass für die Regelzeiten der Kompression.One calculates the modulation spectra of the signal processed by the second hearing aid 2 for a speech signal or a voice-like modulated signal as well as the same unprocessed signal. Since a dynamic compression control acts as a modulation high-pass filter, a difference of these two modulation spectra usually has a high-pass characteristic with a certain cut-off frequency. This cut-off frequency of the modulation high-pass is a direct measure of the control times of the compression.

Die Ergebnisse der ersten Messung werden zur Einstellung der Eingang-/Ausgang-Funktionen der verschiedenen Kanäle verwendet. Die Differenz zwischen der zweiten und der ersten Messung dient der Einstellung der Stärke der Geräuschunterdrückung (Noise Cancelling). Wenn Zeitkonstanten der Verstärkungsregelung zu den Fitting-Parametern gehören, kann die dritte Messung zur Einstellung der Ausschwingzeiten herangezogen werden.The results of the first measurement are used to set the input / output functions of the different channels. The difference between the second and the first measurement is used to adjust the amount of noise cancellation (noise canceling). If the time constants of the gain control belong to the fitting parameters, the third measurement can be used to set the settling times.

Bei Hörgeräten, bei denen verschiedene Hörprogramme wählbar sind, werden die einzelnen Programme nacheinander im auszumessenden, zweiten Hörgerät 2 aktiviert und mit der beschriebenen Methode gemessen.For hearing aids in which various hearing programs can be selected, the individual programs are activated one after the other in the second hearing device 2 to be measured and measured with the described method.

Der Lautstärkensteller wird beim auszumessenden, zweiten Hörgerät 2 vorzugsweise in diejenige Stellung gebracht, die für das Hören mittellauter Schalle geeignet ist. Damit ist eine Kundeneinstellung gemeint, die für angenehmes Hören in ruhiger Umgebung geeignet ist. Bei digitalen Hörgeräten ist dies meist die Einstellung direkt nach dem Einschalten des Hörgerätes.The volume adjuster is preferably placed in the position to be measured, second hearing aid 2 in that position, which is suitable for listening mittellauter sound. This means a customer attitude that is suitable for comfortable listening in a quiet environment. For digital hearing aids is this is usually the setting directly after switching on the hearing aid.

Wenn die Begrenzung des auszumessenden, zweiten Hörgeräts 2 auch erfasst werden soll (Einstellung eines Limiters), muss das zweite Hörgerät 2 zusätzlich mit 90 dB beschallt werden. Im Übrigen wird die beschriebene Methode verwendet. Eine 90 dB-Darbietung ist gewöhnlich unangenehm für den Akustiker und für den Hörgerätträger.If the limit of the second hearing device 2 to be measured is also to be recorded (setting of a limiter), the second hearing device 2 must additionally be sonicated with 90 dB. Incidentally, the method described is used. A 90 dB performance is usually uncomfortable for the acoustician and the hearing aid user.

Fig. 2 zeigt eine weitere Ausführungsform der Erfindung, wobei sich diese von der in Fig. 1 gezeigten Ausführungsform lediglich dadurch unterscheidet, dass das akustische Testsignal 20 mit Hilfe des ersten Hörgerätes 3 erzeugt wird. Hierzu ist ein weiteres Kuppelelement 50 zwischen dem zweiten und dem ersten Hörgerät 2 bzw. 3 notwendig. Der Lautsprecher 6 ist bei dieser Ausführungsform lediglich für die erwähnte Kalibrierung erforderlich. Die Hauptverarbeitung der Signale erfolgt dabei - unter Anleitung der Kontrolleinheit 1 - hauptsächlich im ersten Hörgerät 3. Im Übrigen sind die verschiedenen Messverfahren, die im Zusammenhang mit der in Fig. 1 dargestellten Ausführungsform beschrieben worden sind, entsprechend bei der Ausführungsform gemäss Fig. 2 verwendbar und bedürfen daher keiner weiteren Erläuterung mehr. Fig. 2 shows a further embodiment of the invention, wherein these from the in Fig. 1 shown embodiment differs only in that the acoustic test signal 20 is generated by means of the first hearing aid 3. For this purpose, a further coupling element 50 between the second and the first hearing device 2 or 3 is necessary. The speaker 6 is required in this embodiment only for the mentioned calibration. The main processing of the signals is carried out - under the guidance of the control unit 1 - mainly in the first hearing aid 3. In addition, the various measurement methods that are associated with the in Fig. 1 illustrated embodiment, according to the embodiment according to Fig. 2 usable and therefore need no further explanation.

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  1. A method for adjusting a first hearing device (3) based on adjustments of a second hearing device (2), the method comprising the steps of:
    - converting an acoustic test signal (20) into an electric test signal by a microphone (2a) of the second hearing device (2);
    - converting an acoustic signal (21) generated by a receiver (2a) of the second hearing device (2) into an electrical signal;
    - analyzing the electrical signal in said first hearing device (3), and
    - adjusting the first hearing device (3) based on results obtained by the analysis performed in the first hearing device.
  2. The method of claim 1, wherein the acoustic test signal (20) is generated in a control unit (1) provided outside the hearing devices (2,3).
  3. The method of claim 1, wherein the acoustic test signal (20) is generated in the first hearing device (3).
  4. The method of any of claims 1 to 3, wherein the step of analyzing the electrical signal (21) takes place in a control unit (1) provided outside the hearing devices (2, 3).
  5. The method of one of claims 1 to 4, comprising the step of simultaneously feeding the acoustic test signal (20) to a microphone (3a) of the first hearing device (3) for its calibration.
  6. The method of one of the preceding claims, wherein a stationary or a speech-modulated noise is used as said acoustic test signal (20).
  7. The method of one of claims 1 to 4, wherein an unmodulated noise with a level step of preferably 25 dB is used as acoustic test signal (20).
  8. The method of one of the preceding claims, wherein the adjusting of the first hearing device is carried out in all available hearing programs.
  9. The method of one of the preceding claims, comprising setting a sound level between 40 and 90 dB SPL for the acoustic test signal.
  10. An apparatus for carrying out the method of one of claims 1 to 9, comprising
    - a first hearing device (3) with a microphone (3a) and a receiver (3b);
    - a second hearing device (2) with a microphone (2a) and a receiver (2b), whereby said first hearing aid (3) can be set based on settings of said second hearing aid (2);
    - means (1,6,3,3b) for feeding the microphone (2a) of said second hearing aid (2) with an acoustic test signal (20),
    - means (4,5) for transforming an acoustic signal (21) produced by the receiver (2b) of said second hearing aid (2) into an electric signal, and
    - means for feeding said first hearing aid (3) with said electric signal,
    whereas means for analyzing said electrical signal are provided in said first hearing aid (3) and said first hearing aid (3) is constructed such that settings can be made on the basis of results of said analysis.
  11. The apparatus of claim 10, wherein a control unit (1) operatively connected with the first hearing device (3) is arranged outside said hearing aids (2,3).
  12. The apparatus of claim 11, wherein a loudspeaker (6) is operatively connected to the control unit (1).
  13. The apparatus of claim 10 or 11, wherein the acoustic test signal (20) is furthermore fed to a microphone (3a) of said first hearing aid (3).
  14. The apparatus of one or more of claims 10 to 12, comprising a measurement microphone (4) for recording the acoustical signal (21) produced by the receiver (2b) of the second hearing aid (2), the measurement microphone (4) being operatively connected to the first hearing device (3).
  15. The apparatus of one or several of claims 10 to 14, wherein an acoustic signal produced by loudspeaker (6) is fed exclusively to the microphone (3a) of hearing device (3).
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